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Sadly not. Im on my phone for the next two months as well, so I cant read that for some odd reason

No worries, if you want I can re-colour if you let me know what shows best for you.

And how the heck can you manage on a phone? I hate posting using my phone.
 
Sadly not. Im on my phone for the next two months as well, so I cant read that for some odd reason
Key riced. You created that wall of reply on your phone?

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Deserves rep just for that.
 
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Go Play Euro Truck Simulator 2, it is the game you want, quit trying to change Elite into it.
FTFY. :p



I am not the one who blatantly stated that I want to change Elite Dangerous into Eve in a cockpit... the person I said my original statement that you are replying to has, along with a bunch of large red text. I want Elite Dangerous. I am playing Elite Dangerous. I am not trying to change Elite Dangerous into a different game. And I explore more than trade, both which are aspects Elite Dangerous has had from the beginning.
 
Thats not what happened. You are not allowed to use alt accounts to access PGs. PG owners dont have any power over bans.

I can go with my account to Mobius to massacare there and <Nope> will happen. The only thing saving them is my application is on hold. Probably some beurocratic nonesence, hopefully soon.

Have you been in Mobius before to PVP? If yes I won't hold your breath on that application..... your whole "nope" he can't do that... well keep believing it and wonder why you can't get back in.
 

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Have you been in Mobius before to PVP? If yes I won't hold your breath on that application..... your whole "nope" he can't do that... well keep believing it and wonder why you can't get back in.

I never did anything to them.
I was a member for some time actually and then was kicked out, didnt notice because I only used them for mode switching.
 
I am not the one who blatantly stated that I want to change Elite Dangerous into Eve in a cockpit... the person I said my original statement that you are replying to has, along with a bunch of large red text. I want Elite Dangerous. I am playing Elite Dangerous. I am not trying to change Elite Dangerous into a different game. And I explore more than trade, both which are aspects Elite Dangerous has had from the beginning.

Atm, all I want is to have an option of doing my stuff on PvP server, which is Open, actually worth it. While I am already done with it, I still need money from time to time. My account is getting low actualy, with all those rebuys after interdicting wanted players which are in a wing.

While you is a PvE player, as I understand, and do not want a thing changed as you are satisfied with the current state of them, I have different kink.
I want to "level up" in the Open, dodge/get wasted by griefiers, overcome it and then take it back at them. While you want just remove them from your game.
Both choices are valid. But I want this choice to come down to personal preference, and this choice to not be spoiled with the fact that one takes more time than the other while yielding exactly the same result.
 
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I never did anything to them.
I was a member for some time actually and then was kicked out, didnt notice because I only used them for mode switching.


If you were kicked then there was a reason, there were some "factions' like SDC kicked and banned... so again what you say he can't do... he did.
 
Atm, all I want is to have an option of doing my stuff on PvP server, which is Open, actually worth it. While I am already done with it, I still need money from time to time. My account is getting low actualy, with all those rebuys after interdicting wanted players which are in a wing.

While you is a PvE player, as I understand, and do not want a thing changed as you are satisfied with the current state of them, I have different kink.
I want to "level up" in the Open, dodge/get wasted by griefiers, overcome it and then take it back at them. While you want just remove them from your game.
Both choices are valid. But I want this choice to come down to personal preference, and this choice to not be spoiled with the fact that one takes more time than the other while yielding exactly the same result.


Doesn't take more time... people can be in open and "level" up fast (I am guessing to the uber engineered ships), others in Solo or PG's can loose everything and have to start over. The only thing different is in Open is that it may be a player that did it or an NPC... in Solo and some PG's it is only NPCs, other PGs it is players as as well. Fdev gave us this big mountain to play on and to climb and said, which slope and how you climb it is your choice. You are wanting that the way you chose of climbing the mountain mean more then others because you purposely chose to make it "harder" and more "hardcore" yet are demanding a reward for doing so.
 
Doesn't take more time... people can be in open and "level" up fast (I am guessing to the uber engineered ships), others in Solo or PG's can loose everything and have to start over. The only thing different is in Open is that it may be a player that did it or an NPC... in Solo and some PG's it is only NPCs, other PGs it is players as as well. Fdev gave us this big mountain to play on and to climb and said, which slope and how you climb it is your choice. You are wanting that the way you chose of climbing the mountain mean more then others because you purposely chose to make it "harder" and more "hardcore" yet are demanding a reward for doing so.

Please, try to be more constructive.
 
Doesn't take more time... people can be in open and "level" up fast (I am guessing to the uber engineered ships), others in Solo or PG's can loose everything and have to start over. The only thing different is in Open is that it may be a player that did it or an NPC... in Solo and some PG's it is only NPCs, other PGs it is players as as well. Fdev gave us this big mountain to play on and to climb and said, which slope and how you climb it is your choice. You are wanting that the way you chose of climbing the mountain mean more then others because you purposely chose to make it "harder" and more "hardcore" yet are demanding a reward for doing so.

Well said. Players like to play in Open already. The challenge, the unexpected encounters and bragging rights are the reward. I get that. I get the same reward when I play Civilisation at deity level or They Are Billions maxed out and the game goes: here's your butt sir. All the more sweeter when once in a blue moon I manage to beat that sucker.

If players think Open poses to much risk for their reward, other modes are available.
 

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If you were kicked then there was a reason, there were some "factions' like SDC kicked and banned... so again what you say he can't do... he did.

He can kick me from his group but he has no power to ban people, I know few that went in ans murdered in Mobius and they are still here.

Doesn't take more time... people can be in open and "level" up fast (I am guessing to the uber engineered ships), others in Solo or PG's can loose everything and have to start over. The only thing different is in Open is that it may be a player that did it or an NPC... in Solo and some PG's it is only NPCs, other PGs it is players as as well. Fdev gave us this big mountain to play on and to climb and said, which slope and how you climb it is your choice. You are wanting that the way you chose of climbing the mountain mean more then others because you purposely chose to make it "harder" and more "hardcore" yet are demanding a reward for doing so.

Exactly, whats wrong with that and how does it affect you aside from jealous rage?
 
Atm, all I want is to have an option of doing my stuff on PvP server, which is Open, actually worth it.

I've picked up on this in the other thread but I'm going to say it here as well;

There is no "PvP server".

We have one server that allows PvP by consent in any multiplayer mode.

This isn't WoW, we don't have PvP / PvE servers - we just have one server with a choice of how to play when we play.
 
Well said. Players like to play in Open already. The challenge, the unexpected encounters and bragging rights are the reward. I get that. I get the same reward when I play Civilisation at deity level or They Are Billions maxed out and the game goes: here's your butt sir. All the more sweeter when once in a blue moon I manage to beat that sucker.

If players think Open poses to much risk for their reward, other modes are available.

There is no scoreboard. (So) there are no bragging rights. I could stop here, actually.


WoW analogy is very-very close actually, no matter how you look at it. Leveling there is exactly the same as getting ships in ED.
This PvP question was never a question when you could not switch modes on the fly. Everyone around you underwent the same stuff, so it was alright.

But an option to just turn PvP off midway your leveling makes it too tempting. And no incentives for keeping it on make you a total which acts on a dare and nothing else.

Except maybe that is fair for older xpacs of WoW. You do not quest at all nowadays, you just faceroll it in dungeon spam. It's like CQC would start awarding 10 mil a match as long as you do not leave in the process.


Again, I do not want to bring as much PvE players to feed griefiers as I can. I want a choice of mode to come down to personal preference, and to not be spoiled with efficieny increase.



I've picked up on this in the other thread but I'm going to say it here as well;

There is no "PvP server".

We have one server that allows PvP by consent in any multiplayer mode.

This isn't WoW, we don't have PvP / PvE servers - we just have one server with a choice of how to play when we play.

Open? Concent? :D
And that is ok, PvP servers should not be about concent. You might not belive it, but not everyone is a carebear.
And adding some layer of reward for staying Open will actually create some PvP server resemblance at last.
 
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Open? Concent? :D
And that is ok, PvP servers should not be about concent. You might not belive it, but not everyone is a carebear.
And adding some layer of reward for staying Open will actually create some PvP server resemblance at last.

Yes, consent. Because PvP is optional in this game - even in Open mode.
So if you want a game that is focused on PvP, go play a game made for it.
I hear Fortnite is cool. That seems to be more what you want.

And using the common insult "carebear" really shows that you're not trying to improve PvP, you only want to improve "griefing" by forcing people to being your targets.
 
Yes, consent. Because PvP is optional in this game - even in Open mode.
So if you want a game that is focused on PvP, go play a game made for it.
I hear Fortnite is cool. That seems to be more what you want.

And using the common insult "carebear" really shows that you're not trying to improve PvP, you only want to improve "griefing" by forcing people to being your targets.

I didnt know that this term is so insulting. But the fact is a fact. I do not care really about choice of words.
You like current state of things, where you do not have to chose anything. But I want to have a meaningful choice instead of an unbalanced one, and I do not care if you like it or not.

And I never had any "forced people" targets. And stop spamming your optional bull in order for me to change my ways.
 
I didnt know that this term is so insulting. But the fact is a fact. I do not care really about choice of words.
You like current state of things, where you do not have to chose anything. But I want to have a meaningful choice instead of an unbalanced one, and I do not care if you like it or not.

And I never had any "forced people" targets. And stop spamming your optional bull in order for me to change my ways.

There is no need for you to change your ways. In the game's current configuration there is no need for anyone to change their play style, merely switch back and forth between modes at will and enjoy the full breadth of the game without missing anything. So, let's keep things as they are, and we can all go about our business at will.
 
merely switch back and forth between modes at will

This part is actually the most insulting one.
Usually you are overcoming dangers around you and everyone you play with go through the same stuff.
In ED, you have to handicap yourself compared to other people for the sake of your expirience.

This makes this game full-on PvE one. Because the choice of modes in not balanced.
 
This part is actually the most insulting one.
Usually you are overcoming dangers around you and everyone you play with go through the same stuff.
In ED, you have to handicap yourself compared to other people for the sake of your expirience.

This makes this game full-on PvE one. Because the choice of modes in not balanced.


No, you don't need to handicap yourself. Your game experience is entirely up to you, whether or not you want to play with other people or solo, or in private groups. You have access to everything in every mode, and your actions carry between those modes. I fail to see how that's a handicap.
 
No, you don't need to handicap yourself. Your game experience is entirely up to you, whether or not you want to play with other people or solo, or in private groups. You have access to everything in every mode, and your actions carry between those modes. I fail to see how that's a handicap.

You can get some reward without risk, or you can chose to have some risks while getting exactly same reward. What is balanced about this choice?

While risk is a good thing and a good gameplay expirience, who plays poker with one-sided wages?
I like to play poker, but I am not .
 
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