10-4. I've got no skin in the fight as its not the way I fly. Hope it works out though...
Throttling down to next jump
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10-4. I've got no skin in the fight as its not the way I fly. Hope it works out though...
Yes.
I certainly don't want to take this away from you or telling you how you should play the game. There are various methods for various things and various preferences. I like it the way I do cause it's basically more relaxed and I find some time (during the surface scan of the star) to do some other things, like e.g. writing these lines.All I'm asking for is to make this auto stop an option that we can toggle in the options or functions menu. Is this really asking too much?
Yep, you just hijacked my post. We are on the same line now. I'm on PC where it's no option (yet). But it was changed without any announcement or a discussion. That's the main and unnecessary reason for all the salt I guess.
Yes, I like what you are saying and you are right. Everyone should have the option - and that is most likely Frontiers intention too.
In my opinion we should talk about this as a bug on the PC. Frontier is less likely to force a bad solution over our heads if we do.
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It's important because some people have physical throttles. If they change the position of it during a jump and the game doesn't, then they come out and the ship and throttle are out of sync. And because these exist and need to be handled, there should be the same behaviour available for keyboard... if you hit a key for a throttle setting, it should behave like you set a physical throttle to that position. Applications are secondary.
EDIT: I'll just add that I use keyboard and mouse, and it's only failed to acknowledge my throttle change while in witchspace once (and that was the first jump after updating). I don't know if something I did or am doing fixed it, but I have been wary. I will add that I don't change throttle during the countdown... I trill x/c a bit during witchspace (x is zero throttle, c is center mouse). So I hit it multiple times.
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Me [yesnod] if I'm exploring and scanning I do this.
I throttle down just above zero on jump, pop into system, start honking while moving to target star while floating into scoop range. Just before the honk is done, star has been discovered, targeted and scan started. by that time I'm already in scoop range and I've already been scooping and am at a good scoop rate. Full stop, then While surface scanning/scooping I check the system map and see what's there.
If nothing else is worth scanning then I leave map, star is done scanning, and I just do next waypoint and start flying around the star finish scooping and by then usually ready to jump once heat is acceptable enough. If stuff is worth scanning then I just move on to next target.
If not scanning at all then I go in at low to no throttle as I tend to look at stuff, forum, or I have hockey or something on tv and get distracted. Doesn't bother me it may take a few seconds longer I'm not one of those kind of people lol.
I use hotas so my throttle is working. And yeah I see no reason why people were saying anything against having the option to throttle down on jumps. Lmao. That's is just, well it's the ED forum I guess that's about normal behavior around here.
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Just a quick heads up...
I contacted support regarding this (the throttle setting), and they told me that this is an intended change. They suggested that I make a post in the suggestions forum if I wasn't happy with this.
I have done so here.
I would suggest that if anyone else feels that their throttle settings should not be randomly changed by the game that they post in that thread too.
I contacted support regarding this (the throttle setting), and they told me that this is an intended change. They suggested that I make a post in the suggestions forum if I wasn't happy with this.
I have done so here.
I would suggest that if anyone else feels that their throttle settings should not be randomly changed by the game that they post in that thread too.
This is pretty much exactly how I explore too. I was halfway to Beagle Point when the update dropped, and almost had my trip ended on the first jump (one of those "wild crazy" Neutron Stars) because I hadn't noticed I was still accelerating at full throttle. So, yeah, this unexpected change in behavior is... problematic.
I've noticed that the throttle setting is being honoured if changed during jump countdown, but not while in hyperspace. It used to be that it was honoured throughout the jump. You can still obviously throttle down immediately after you exit hyperspace, and the effect is almost the same, but for some stars (White/Brown Dwarf) you sometimes don't get much time to react before hitting the exclusion zone.
I don't see how this change could have been intentional. Surely the ship should honour the throttle setting of the pilot at all times?
I use google translate and therefore I apologize in advance for my English.
About the fact that the set value of the throttle to reduce the time between jumps, complete nonsense. So as long as charging FSD, you can easily get up to speed in the direction vector which you need.
Much more importantly, the reset of speed to 0 is more secure. This is especially important for me as for explorer, when the risk of losing all research is more significant.
I always fly fa off and before the speed was reset to 0 after the jump, which was very convenient. It was not necessary to concentrate on jump, I could even turn off the game, for example, to start another music album or for a moment turn around in my chair. In addition, playing with the Astra voice control now every time I need to say commands to reset the speed to 0, since I always scan the main star and it's not convenient for me to first change direction from it, and then again to it. I hope these problems are experienced by many explorers.
If this is a planned change that is not going to be corrected, then let Frontier make it possible in the ship's tuning to enable the automatic speed drop after the jump.
Also very annoying dim FA after each exit from the cruise as a person who plays the FA Off constantly.
About the fact that the set value of the throttle to reduce the time between jumps, complete nonsense. So as long as charging FSD, you can easily get up to speed in the direction vector which you need.
Much more importantly, the reset of speed to 0 is more secure. This is especially important for me as for explorer, when the risk of losing all research is more significant.
I always fly fa off and before the speed was reset to 0 after the jump, which was very convenient. It was not necessary to concentrate on jump, I could even turn off the game, for example, to start another music album or for a moment turn around in my chair. In addition, playing with the Astra voice control now every time I need to say commands to reset the speed to 0, since I always scan the main star and it's not convenient for me to first change direction from it, and then again to it. I hope these problems are experienced by many explorers.
If this is a planned change that is not going to be corrected, then let Frontier make it possible in the ship's tuning to enable the automatic speed drop after the jump.
Also very annoying dim FA after each exit from the cruise as a person who plays the FA Off constantly.
Have some rep for the translation ..... and yes, there's a bug report already posted by a lot of annoyed commanders, experiencing the same as you
That's just weird because it doesn't do it for a hotas throttle, at least not mine. Why make it different for keyboards, or any other control scheme ?
Makes no sense that a game ignores an input from the user, and while I get while some people want to go full speed why does this need to be changed? Just let those who want set 0 throttle and those who don't leave it set where they want, like I can with mine.
I hope you get things sorted and "fixed" how you want. I was being affected I'd be on this side as well.
WHAT THE ACTUAL FLIP?
If FDEV have seriously decided to intentionally ignore user input, then they have fully and finally lost the plot. If true, this is about the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.
e. I can only hope there's a large amount of talking at cross purposes going on.
My experience is that I enter hyperspace, pull my hotas throttle to zero, arrive in the new system, the ship hesitates, ignores the throttle's position and starts accelerating for the star, I vaguely panic, push the throttle forward from zero, then back to zero, and the ship finally registers the position of the throttle and slows to a 'halt'.
Working as intended?
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Yes, this is the way it is working for me. I haven't done a jump for 2 months after driving around a planet and had the shock of my life as the star loomed large.
So this is getting strange. Can I ask which hotas/throttle you are using?
I only ask because I have the t1600m. Setup. And I can pull my throttle back to 0 either during countdown or in the tunnel and I come out with some slight velocity but my throttle input is detected and obeyed by the game. I stop quick. I have seen no issues on my end so far
It seemed like most complaints were from keyboard users, and a couple from consoles or PC gamepad users. I think you are the first Hotas/throttle user that has mentioned it affecting them?
I haven't tested this with my HOTAS (as I don't throttle back on Jumps), but the explanation seems obvious...
With a digital button press, you are simply telling the game to set a particular throttle setting. Basically, tell the computer ONCE what you want the throttle to be set to and HOPE it keeps it that way. No way for the computer to reference something from time to time to recheck/reset the throttle.
With a throttle bound to an analog potentiometer (or axis) in a HOTAS, the desired throttle setting is always available via the joystick interface. Its not a matter of what the last "setting" was... The computer can poll this setting any time it wants.
Also, Elite is one of the few games that will honor BOTH a keyboard and joystick (HOTAS) input simultaneously. If this situation is important to you, and you have a HOTAS, I would be careful about mixing keyboard and HOTAS throttle control. I can definitely see a possibility that if your last throttle command came from the keyboard, you might negate any reading of the HOTAS throttle until it is actually changed. IOW, if you are mixing HOTAS/Keyboard Throttle control, then last using a keyboard command might bring with it the corresponding issues...
...and which post exactly did you see that in?