Throttling down to next jump

[DR Grandreefer]

If there's any discussion to be had on it, I prefer the way it is at the moment.

Makes more of a process of preparing for the jump for me. And (as without precise calculations, we could fly right through a star or bounce too close to a supernova - and that'll end your trip real quick) makes traveling through hyperspace less like dusting crops?

Well ok. If you like it the way it is. The old way could be brought back and you wouldn’t be effected. After all using this feature would mean actually using the feature.

 

[CMDR Pugwash]

Pretty sure it is exactly the same as it was for me. [where is it]

Edit : I do it both ways, full belt when I am on my way somewhere. Full Stop/half speed if I'm on a conference call or at risk of distraction.. or in no hurry.

 

[GeneralIdea1964]

Yeah I noticed this tonight.
When you center the Throttle, if you look at the in Game Throttle you'll see it pushed forward when you enter Witchspace, even if you recenter it in Witchspace it still pushes it forward again as you drop in front of the Star, making you accelerate towards it even though your Throttle's centred.

Edit as for some odd reason I wrote Whichspace instead of Witchspace...

I raised an fault report in Beta about this. Ship does not match your throttle setting on exiting h-jump or super cruise.
It gets set to maximum and you have to reset it afterward.
Its basically a pain in the area behind. Now I can't nip out for a quick break after entering whicheverspace in fear that my ship will crash into a star.
Pre 3.0 it would exit and if I'd set throttle to zero would bumble along at 30km/s giving g plenty of time to get back to pilot's seat.

 

[Faded Glory]

Any idea if FDev consider the throttle down as a bug too Cmdr?

If it ain't broke, don't try to fix it. I would assume the Devs are working to revert it back to normal behaviour.

I sincerely hope they fix the throttle issue...

My throttle sets itself to full at every change of instance in the jump sequence (once the jump actually starts, and then again when I exit the jump), and frankly it's very irritating. I'd like the game to honor my control inputs, I'm supposed to be the pilot.

 

[CDOTS]

Using x56 rhino, throttle to zero works. Using my Xbox controller (cause my arm gets tired after a bit ) doesn't go to zero after jump.

 

[Commander420]

I had problem of coming out of supercruise full speed even though i would throttle back during countdown. I rebinded throttle forward and back. Throttling back during countdown now works for me. Im using a xbox controller and i backed up my keybindings before doing the update. Hope this helps

 

[CDOTS]

Thanks Commander420 will try after work. Never thought of that and if it works for me you just made me super happy and I'm sure other Cmdrs As well.

 

[Faded Glory]

I had problem of coming out of supercruise full speed even though i would throttle back during countdown. I rebinded throttle forward and back. Throttling back during countdown now works for me. Im using a xbox controller and i backed up my keybindings before doing the update. Hope this helps

I'm using a HOTAS, but your suggestion (I simply deleted and re-bound the throttle) seems to have done the trick. Thank you, and repped...

 

[evanevery]

Jump to hazardous star, press 0 throttle during countdown etc

Has this changed? I'm pressing zero throttle during the countdown and in hyperspace jump and I'm still coming out at full speed

OK, I'll bite...

Why are you throttling down between jumps? I have all the very largest and ungainly ships and I never reduce my throttle at all while jumping. Why not just keep your throttle pegged and turn as you fly around the star? Even a car-lot-special drift-queen Cutter can do this.

Am I missing something?

 

[Fandomlife]

Zero throttle on jumping is essential. I have other things to while playing elite so zeroing the throttle means I don't ram a star if I've been diverted while doing that something else. It guarantees safe entry.

 

[lesscode]

OK, I'll bite...

Why are you throttling down between jumps? I have all the very largest and ungainly ships and I never reduce my throttle at all while jumping. Why not just keep your throttle pegged and turn as you fly around the star? Even a car-lot-special drift-queen Cutter can do this.

Am I missing something?

White Dwarves

 

[evanevery]

Zero throttle on jumping is essential. I have other things to while playing elite so zeroing the throttle means I don't ram a star if I've been diverted while doing that something else. It guarantees safe entry.

"Other things to do" every 30-40 seconds?

No... Zero throttle is NOT "essential". It actually works against you. It may be beneficial if you are not willing to pay attention - but its certainly NOT essential or efficient.

I've never done it and I've never had to. Even the ships with the poorest maneuverability can be turned away from the star when you jump in.

In fact, if you are throttling down, I expect your jumps are taking a lot longer than necessary. Without reducing throttle, you can do a complete jump cycle every 30-40 seconds.

You will also lose a significant amount of speed when you enter your final destination system - speed that's very hard to get back that close to the main star. So, if you're throttling down on your last jump, then you are going to pay heavily in the transit time to your arrival point.

Throttle up, start your jump sequence, and you should never have to throttle back down until you get to 7 LS from your final destination...

White Dwarves

Never had a problem with any star I have ever jumped in/to/around in almost 1000 hrs of game play... If there is truly something that dangerous in your route then you might consider filtering it out of your route plotting. Otherwise you are paying a penalty on EVERY jump...

 

[Wizz15]

"Other things to do" every 30-40 seconds?

No... Zero throttle is NOT "essential". It actually works against you. It may be beneficial if you are not willing to pay attention - but its certainly NOT essential or efficient.

I've never done it and I've never had to. Even the ships with the poorest maneuverability can be turned away from the star when you jump in.

It's good that some people never got used to this 'feature' (whether it was intended or not), but some people have. For me it's a habit of throttling down before or during hyperspace playing on a controller. I do this for various reasons, which you may or may not think are essential.

The fact of the matter is that the ability to throttle down before/during jumps was nice to have for people wanting to use it for whatever reason and now this functionality is gone (for some at least, me included).
I don't care about my journeys taking longer because I throttle down, I value the ability to be able to quickly handle something IRL (without fear of crashing into a star on exit) more than getting to my destination faster.

You could say: don't game when you have other stuff going on, but that doesn't work for people on stand-by 24/7 (which is probably a very small subset I admit). Having this ability wasn't hurting people not wanting to using it, for others it was nice to have.

 

[Jaffz]

OK, I'll bite...

Why are you throttling down between jumps? I have all the very largest and ungainly ships and I never reduce my throttle at all while jumping. Why not just keep your throttle pegged and turn as you fly around the star? Even a car-lot-special drift-queen Cutter can do this.

Am I missing something?

Cos im 14,000 LY out and neutron scooping. Full throttle at a neutron = death

Plus I want to stop and scan them, the cutter is not going to pay for itself

 

[Fandomlife]

"Other things to do" every 30-40 seconds?

No... Zero throttle is NOT "essential".

Hope you're happy with the rant and the capitals. It's not essential but I don't see the point in not having it.

If you want to go in hot you can, keep the throttle up. If you want to go in cold allow people to throttle down. Everyone wins right? No one loses.

On that basis I don't really see the point in arguing for going in hot being 'a thing'.

 

[evanevery]

Cos im 14,000 LY out and neutron scooping. Full throttle at a neutron = death

Plus I want to stop and scan them, the cutter is not going to pay for itself

Not trying to beat a dead horse, but...

I come in full throttle, honk/scoop/negotiate my way around the star at the same time, and I'm out the other side and into my next jump. You shouldn't have to slow down to scan (or even scoop for that matter)...

 

[BradHann]

I have on one occasion bounced off a Black Hole the instant I entered the system, in spite of throttling down. So it can - very rarely - be necessary.

 

[C64Fan]

OK, I'll bite...

Why are you throttling down between jumps? I have all the very largest and ungainly ships and I never reduce my throttle at all while jumping. Why not just keep your throttle pegged and turn as you fly around the star? Even a car-lot-special drift-queen Cutter can do this.

Am I missing something?

No you don’t. I do it same way and never had a problem with it.

There are many like us: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...-a-bug-or-a-new-feature?p=6344678#post6344678

If I am in scan-everything-mode I keep L1 (throttle down) pressed juring the jump which will stop the ship almost immidiately after the jump (it actually does - PS4).

 

[Jaffz]

Not trying to beat a dead horse, but...

I come in full throttle, honk/scoop/negotiate my way around the star at the same time, and I'm out the other side and into my next jump. You shouldn't have to slow down to scan (or even scoop for that matter)...

Never bumped into a neutron? Or a black hole? If you come in at full throttle and you're dead or lucky

I need to drop to 0 speed to scan them from a distance

 

[Red Anders]

Not trying to beat a dead horse, but...

I come in full throttle, honk/scoop/negotiate my way around the star at the same time, and I'm out the other side and into my next jump. You shouldn't have to slow down to scan (or even scoop for that matter)...

OK champ, good for you.

The answer to your question for a lot us us is 'because I want to scan the star' by the way. I don't care if you're the reincarnation of Manfred Von Richthofen, you're not jumping into a system at full throttle, selecting the star and managing to advanced disco scan it before you fly into it.

If I'm just flying around the bubble scooping then no, I never slow down either. Some people want to take the opportunity to have a quick check of the system map though, or maybe quickly check contacts. There's no 'right' or 'wrong' about how people choose to do it and there's also no debate that this is an undocumented change that seems to serve no purpose, so is probably unintentional.