Hardware & Technical Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS HOTAS official thread

CMDR MAIN SEQUENCE

CMDR MAIN SEQUENCE
I'm convinced they've increased the sensitivity on the analogue inputs, I noticed this in the beta. I've had to increase the deadzone on some on the axiseseses*

*for those in the UK you need to say this in a Keith Lemon Through The Keyhole voice.
 

Faded Glory

Faded Glory
GreenDemon said:
Hi all,
An issue has developed with my 16000M, and I'm not sure what to do about it.
When in flight, it's started drifting off to the left continually unless I hold the stick twist still, and fight against it.
Do you think this is a hardware fault? Any suggestions on how to resolve it?
Many thanks.
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Quite likely to be a fault with the potentiometer that they use. From what I have read this is a known issue with this stick.

Here is a link to one post about it, and that links to an earlier one. You might want to try the utility that I link to, but mine is (finally) being replaced, it was only a few months old.
 

Ulkinthor

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Brand new HOTAS, nothing working

i just bought the t.16000m fcs hotas and i cant get anything to work. Thrustmasters website is down and i cant download the drivers or firmware updates. i know people have said you dont need target. i just want it to work. Ive been searching the internet for 4 hours trying to find anything. every single help thread is extremely dependent on the software that i cant get. ive even tried just launching ED and binding things but nothing registers in there either. please help.
 

CMDR MAIN SEQUENCE

CMDR MAIN SEQUENCE
Ulkinthor said:
i just bought the t.16000m fcs hotas and i cant get anything to work. Thrustmasters website is down and i cant download the drivers or firmware updates. i know people have said you dont need target. i just want it to work. Ive been searching the internet for 4 hours trying to find anything. every single help thread is extremely dependent on the software that i cant get. ive even tried just launching ED and binding things but nothing registers in there either. please help.
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You don't need to download or install any drivers or software for it to work. You should be able to just plug it in any it will work. Click on the Windows start button and type 'game controllers'. In the window you get you should see two devices one for the stick and one for the throttle. If you do, double-click on them and then press a button or move an axis - does it register? If yes, the problem is with ED.
 

Ulkinthor

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MAIN SEQUENCE said:
You don't need to download or install any drivers or software for it to work. You should be able to just plug it in any it will work. Click on the Windows start button and type 'game controllers'. In the window you get you should see two devices one for the stick and one for the throttle. If you do, double-click on them and then press a button or move an axis - does it register? If yes, the problem is with ED.
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All the buttons work in windows but none in ED. When I go to controls it has keyboard only, keyboard and mouse, or empty as preset options. Could the issue be through steam? i can get it to work in the big picture mode menus. is there so preset I need to download?
 

Faded Glory

Faded Glory
Ulkinthor said:
All the buttons work in windows but none in ED. When I go to controls it has keyboard only, keyboard and mouse, or empty as preset options. Could the issue be through steam? i can get it to work in the big picture mode menus. is there so preset I need to download?
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I don't use steam myself, but going by what has been posted here previously and your description, yes, you are using the generic steam controller presets (or something). If you are able to switch to ED presets you should be good to go. There should be a Thrustmaster T16000 preset, or use the Custom preset and set it up as you want.

Have a scan through this thread, as IIRC it was brought up here not that long ago, so work from here backwards...

Here's the relevant stuff. Hopefully as a steam user it will make sense to you... :)
 
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Crash Landing

Crash Landing
So an update on the outcome of the yaw drift.

I contacted Thrustmaster tech support. They told me to contact my supplier. They said as its over 6 months old (11 months) since you purchased it . We need either a support ticket number off Thrustmaster or a technical report from you verifying its a technical and not a user problem. they recommended getting a computer shop to test it, for a £90 HOTAS that wasn't going to happen.

There then followed a few days of email tennis till I got Thrustmaster to understand I needed a ticket number. Don't know why, as they tacitly agreed from the start there was a technical problem. I can only assume due to the English response I was getting that it was either a bot or English was not there first language.

Once I got the ticket number I had to return the HOTAS to the supplier, they sorted out the pick up and as soon is it was picked up I informed them and a replacement arrived two days later. So all in all apart from a bit of email tennis it was a relatively painless process.

On the positive side the new joystick feels a lot more substantial than the last one and they have sorted the throttle it now glides back and forward with none of the previous stickiness.

Lets see how long this one lasts.
 
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GreenDemon

GreenDemon
Nice one, glad to hear you got it sorted, and a better quality HOTAS at the end, by the sounds of it :)

I ran the calibration utility mentioned in the thread earlier, and that's sorted mine out for now, but if it starts to drift again, I shall likely go down the same route as you, mine's only 8 months old.
 

Faded Glory

Faded Glory
GreenDemon said:
Nice one, glad to hear you got it sorted, and a better quality HOTAS at the end, by the sounds of it :)

I ran the calibration utility mentioned in the thread earlier, and that's sorted mine out for now, but if it starts to drift again, I shall likely go down the same route as you, mine's only 8 months old.
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If I were you, I would start the support ticket now... The calibration utility (I presume you are referring to the one that I posted in this thread) is only a temporary fix, at least it was for me, lasted a few weeks, and then the drift returned. It sounds like the poster above had a pretty reasonable support experience, it took me over two months to get my replacement (direct from Thrustmaster).
 

cmdrrdmc

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Had my t16000m + throttle for about a month now. Anyone else notice that the range on the pinky wheel is kinda strange? Like it's using a logarithmic pot or something? I'm using it for sensor zoom, but the wheel only seems to have much of an effect in the last 1/4 turn of the wheel.
 

KellyR

KellyR
cmdrrdmc said:
Had my t16000m + throttle for about a month now. Anyone else notice that the range on the pinky wheel is kinda strange? Like it's using a logarithmic pot or something? I'm using it for sensor zoom, but the wheel only seems to have much of an effect in the last 1/4 turn of the wheel.
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I've noticed that. Didn't post anything about it because I so rarely change sensor zoom and when I do, it's to one extreme or the other so it doesn't really affect me. But yes, it definitely seems like it's on a logarithmic scale.
 

Rojo Habe

Rojo Habe
The sensor range only has four discreet steps, regardles of whether you map buttons or an axis. The steps are indeed logarithmic, the last one taking you all the way fom half to full. There really isn't much point in mapping it to an axis at all, other than it just "feels" more right to me on a dial instead of buttons :)
 

KellyR

KellyR
VerticalBlank said:
Basically I didn't have any other use for the dial, and it reduced the cognitive burden.
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Same here. There's probably use for it in other games, but in ED, there's just not a lot of use for it. I could use it for map Z axis, but I already use the stick throttle axis for that.
 

UFO Reality

UFO Reality
I feel like ED is nerfing my calibration for my Thrustmaster joysticks. I don't know if this is the case or am I just imagining it. Does anyone else think that the calibration is somewhat getting constantly nerfed because Frontier wants to even the game up for console users with control pads instead of PC aftermarket joysticks or HOTAS? When I calibrated using target it worked really well back then but now it seems like it doesn't do much and that it keeps getting altered.
 
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