Hardware & Technical Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS HOTAS official thread

[Chinfox]

Finished the project mentioned in the previous post. Instead of the stick having only one four-way hat and four buttons including the trigger, I now have two analog axes (game pad type joystick) with centre button, three four-way hats each with centre button, an analog thumb wheel and 18 buttons including the original trigger and a new pinky switch and middle finger switch. This is in addition to the unchanged number of buttons in the base (although these are less useful, especially the ones on the far side). Should be enough... . Pics explain better than words, see attachments. One of the pics has a lefty T.16000m for comparison. The additional controller is a Leo Bodnar BO0368X.

Edits for clarification and to add this: I've found a couple of functions that I hadn't considered. Good thing I have two prepositioned spare leads . The hat buttons look a bit dingy, which I put down to the fact that I printed them myself from a template that includes a long stem, which I had to file off, as well as the fact that I used PLA instead of my customary ABS, and in what turns out to be a suboptimal colour at that. I'll probably redo them (in black) when I have more time to design them to better suit my needs... the left one turns out to be a bit awkwardly shaped and a tad too big in circumference, so it leaves too little space for the comfort of my thumb when at rest.

 

[CMDR JD Haynes]

Lots of examples at https://edrefcard.info/list. My own one is https://edrefcard.info/binds/ygjfua

Those seem perfect. How on earth do I download them, or do I have to manually change everything?

 

[VerticalBlank]

Those seem perfect. How on earth do I download them, or do I have to manually change everything?

Assuming on PC, download using the link https://edrefcard.info/configs/ygjfua.binds at the end of the page. This will give a file 'ygjfua.binds'. Dropping that file into %LOCALAPPDATA%\Frontier Developments\Elite Dangerous\Options\Bindings should then make it available as a preset from the in-game UI (ygjfua.binds will be copied to FCS without headlook.3.0.binds I expect).

 

[CMDR JD Haynes]

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[CMDR JD Haynes]

Assuming on PC, download using the link https://edrefcard.info/configs/ygjfua.binds at the end of the page. This will give a file 'ygjfua.binds'. Dropping that file into %LOCALAPPDATA%\Frontier Developments\Elite Dangerous\Options\Bindings should then make it available as a preset from the in-game UI (ygjfua.binds will be copied to FCS without headlook.3.0.binds I expect).

Yeah, I've been trying to click on that, but doesn't download anything, it just opens another browser window with a long list of what I assume is the code for the bindings. It does the same with every file on that site. Also says this at the top: This XML file does not appear to have any style information associated with it. The document tree is shown below.

 

[KellyR]

Yeah, I've been trying to click on that, but doesn't download anything, it just opens another browser window with a long list of what I assume is the code for the bindings. It does the same with every file on that site. Also says this at the top: This XML file does not appear to have any style information associated with it. The document tree is shown below.

You don't open it, you download it. That is the binding file; the one the game uses. All binding files will look similar. What you want is the master list which can be found at https://edrefcard.info/list . Better yet, just download it. Right click on the file above and then click Save Link.

 

[geoweb35]

Hi, i have a question, i open my T16000m joystick to regrease it and i forgot how to place the string, just look at this 2 pictures and maybe someone can upload a picture with factory string position, if is placed in different position he make clunking sounds when i move the joystick, thanks.

 

[sqzbox1]

Not sure if anyone is actually reading this thread anymore but I'll leave this question here and see what happens.
Since upgrading to windows 1903 the joystick slider control will not go to full up. That is, the physical slider goes there but the sent software control doesn't. I have reinstalled the drivers using 2018_FFD_2.exe and the joystick is recognised. If I run the control panel and look at the test input window I can move the slider and see it responding - it goes all the way down but goes only up as far as 1 notch before the top - it won't go to the top. See snip below. This is with the slider all the way to the top.

The effect of this is that in game I can't throttle to full so I can't engage the supercruise - well, using the slider anyway. Of course I can set to full throttle using the digital control I have set up. But in combat one tends to use the slider, right? And it won't go to full anymore. Thoughts anyone?

 

[DragonIV]

Not sure if anyone is actually reading this thread anymore but I'll leave this question here and see what happens.
Since upgrading to windows 1903 the joystick slider control will not go to full up. That is, the physical slider goes there but the sent software control doesn't. I have reinstalled the drivers using 2018_FFD_2.exe and the joystick is recognised. If I run the control panel and look at the test input window I can move the slider and see it responding - it goes all the way down but goes only up as far as 1 notch before the top - it won't go to the top. See snip below. This is with the slider all the way to the top.

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The effect of this is that in game I can't throttle to full so I can't engage the supercruise - well, using the slider anyway. Of course I can set to full throttle using the digital control I have set up. But in combat one tends to use the slider, right? And it won't go to full anymore. Thoughts anyone?

Um, wow, no, I use that for zoom. I have the FCS throttle for use as a throttle in game. The slider on the stick isn't very dense, I mean it can work as that but owwwwch.

I'll check tonight--not sure I've gotten that update yet, so maybe I can do a before and after check.

 

[DragonIV]

Hi, i have a question, i open my T16000m joystick to regrease it and i forgot how to place the string, just look at this 2 pictures and maybe someone can upload a picture with factory string position, if is placed in different position he make clunking sounds when i move the joystick, thanks.

I opened the stick once and decided to do any lubrication on it from outside on the joystick ball joint that is exposed. It's a royal mess in there and easy to screw up. That said, if I get time this weekend maybe I'll open it up and see if I can find what you're looking for.

 

[sqzbox1]

Thanks. You may find that you have to reinstall the driver anyway - I did. You would know if you had upgraded to 1903 I think - it is a major one - takes about half an hour. Microsoft are releasing in a staggered method so different places will get it at different times.

 

[Spaceman Si]

If I run the control panel and look at the test input window I can move the slider and see it responding - it goes all the way down but goes only up as far as 1 notch before the top - it won't go to the top.

Apologies if this is obvious or you've already done it, but have you run the calibration again? I found similar effects on other parts of the controls at times, usually a re-calibration sorts it out.

 

[sqzbox1]

I had to reinstall the drivers. Calibration sounds like a good idea. How do I do that? I don't see any tool to achieve that. Maybe there is more I need to set up? The Windows upgrade process blew Thrustmaster s/w away - as it did with the Epson scanner s/w. Had to reisntall that too.

 

[DragonIV]

Thanks. You may find that you have to reinstall the driver anyway - I did. You would know if you had upgraded to 1903 I think - it is a major one - takes about half an hour. Microsoft are releasing in a staggered method so different places will get it at different times.

Yup, that's why I'm pretty sure I'm not updated yet.

That said, I haven't re-installed the driver since my last OS rebuild. Did you grab a new copy of the driver? Maybe they made changes to it. (just guessing here)

 

[DragonIV]

Apologies if this is obvious or you've already done it, but have you run the calibration again? I found similar effects on other parts of the controls at times, usually a re-calibration sorts it out.

To add to this--when direct x get fubared, this can happen. First order of business is a reboot--then I start looking to manually reinstall directx. Not sure if I've had to do that since going to Win 10 tho.

 

[sqzbox1]

Yup, that's why I'm pretty sure I'm not updated yet.

That said, I haven't re-installed the driver since my last OS rebuild. Did you grab a new copy of the driver? Maybe they made changes to it. (just guessing here)

Yeah - I did. Latest file is 2018_FFD_2.exe.

 

[Spaceman Si]

I had to reinstall the drivers. Calibration sounds like a good idea. How do I do that? I don't see any tool to achieve that. Maybe there is more I need to set up? The Windows upgrade process blew Thrustmaster s/w away - as it did with the Epson scanner s/w. Had to reisntall that too.

I'm away from the gaming PC, so I can't check and give you an exact answer, but it is accessible from the Control Panel: If you select the game controller, you should see a window with the two Thrustmaster controllers in it. Select one of them, then there will be something like "Advanced" or "Calibrate" as an option on the page. Should be the same page you get the test control outputs on, where you can see the gauge that is a bit defective right now

Sorry that's so vague - if you haven't had a proper answer by the time I get home, I'll give you a precise one

Good luck!

 

[DragonIV]

Yeah - I did. Latest file is 2018_FFD_2.exe.

Good to know--I'm dead certain I have the older driver installed.

 

[sqzbox1]

I think I may have a solution. A little research on-line seems to indicate that it is actually self-callibrating. There isn't a way to do it manually in that aforementioned window that shows the options. - it just shows the responses. Rebooting didn't do it. But by physically unplugging it and plugging it in again seems to force the callibration. It got closer to the top - then I did it once more and it reached the top. See snip. Let's hope it sticks. Thanks guys.

 

[Faded Glory]

To find the Windows calibration tool type joy.cpl into the run box (it will be identified as a control panel item). This brings up a small window with your device(s) listed. Select the device T.16000M, go to properties > settings and Calibrate to run the calibration wizard. Very quick to do.

FWIW I have never used the Thrustmaster drivers (I think they are mainly required for force feedback stuff) as the Windows drivers do a good enough job, at least for me.