Tip off missions from the mysterious stranger not updated to 4.0/Odyssey

[Coehoorn]

Your help is needed guys.

Tip off missions with their exact coordinates do not correspond to actual locations in the new game version.

I ask you kindly to contribute HERE if you experienced the problem or are able to reproduce it.

The tip off missions are an old, outdated artifact of the game, and should be either updated to work in Odyssey or removed altogether.

Thank you for your contribution, and a happy Thargsday to everyone. o7

 

[rootsrat]

Your help is needed guys.

Tip off missions with their exact coordinates do not correspond to actual locations in the new game version.

I ask you kindly to contribute HERE if you experienced the problem or are able to reproduce it.

The tip off missions are an old, outdated artifact of the game, and should be either updated to work in Odyssey or removed altogether.

Thank you for your contribution, and a happy Thargsday to everyone. o7

This is an interesting one. Can UI potentially display coords dynamically, depending on whether you're in 3.8 or 4.0? Otherwise... is there even a fix for this?

Contributed.

 

[Ian Doncaster]

Interesting - does this apply consistently to all tip-off missions, or just some of them?

We had https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/40183 come up in the original Odyssey release which meant the sites weren't there at all for certain tip-off classes (all Colonia, some bubble), but once fixed they appeared at the advertised coordinates in the Odyssey client (which weren't necessarily optimal since the coordinates had been picked with Horizons terrain in mind, but still worked)

I'll have to try to pick up one again - or at least find a site - and see if the coordinates match for that type.
(@djadjok any thoughts?)


If you surface-map the planet, can you find the tip-off sites in Odyssey even in the wrong place? Or nothing at all?

 

[rootsrat]

Interesting - does this apply consistently to all tip-off missions, or just some of them?

We had https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/40183 come up in the original Odyssey release which meant the sites weren't there at all for certain tip-off classes (all Colonia, some bubble), but once fixed they appeared at the advertised coordinates in the Odyssey client (which weren't necessarily optimal since the coordinates had been picked with Horizons terrain in mind, but still worked)

I'll have to try to pick up one again - or at least find a site - and see if the coordinates match for that type.
(@djadjok any thoughts?)


If you surface-map the planet, can you find the tip-off sites in Odyssey even in the wrong place? Or nothing at all?

It only happened to me once, so I can't really confirm much.

 

[Jmanis]

Voted... sad to see another mechanic with great potential bite the dust.

 

[Coehoorn]

Interesting - does this apply consistently to all tip-off missions, or just some of them?

We had https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/40183 come up in the original Odyssey release which meant the sites weren't there at all for certain tip-off classes (all Colonia, some bubble), but once fixed they appeared at the advertised coordinates in the Odyssey client (which weren't necessarily optimal since the coordinates had been picked with Horizons terrain in mind, but still worked)

I'll have to try to pick up one again - or at least find a site - and see if the coordinates match for that type.
(@djadjok any thoughts?)


If you surface-map the planet, can you find the tip-off sites in Odyssey even in the wrong place? Or nothing at all?

It seems that settlements are affected, which makes sense as they're stationary and were relocated with Odyssey. Unfortunately, the tip off description doesn't specify whether it's a settlement, a crashed ship or something else (at least not in the cases I had).

 

[djadjok]

It seems that settlements are affected, which makes sense as they're stationary and were relocated with Odyssey. Unfortunately, the tip off description doesn't specify whether it's a settlement, a crashed ship or something else (at least not in the cases I had).

Sorry for being a bit too late for the party=)
However in fact original tip off descriptions does explicitly specify what kind - settlement or shipwreck - of planet side POI it's pointing to. To be more precise it points to one of the known "message groups" - or - according to my understanding of the process - the tip off description is defined by the target message group. Each message group have up to five possible tip off descriptions. Only "corporate data log"(CDL) message group is attached to settlements, all others are linked to shipwrecks. So if you see a mission message corresponding to this group your target will be a planetary base, otherwise it will be a shipwreck - either "crashed ship" or an "unidentified wreckage".
On the "missions" tab of the ED:H tip off archives spreadsheet you can look up for mission texts related to group "12" (that's CDL). Or check this:

One of our associates has intercepted part of a data packet. We want the rest of it. If you can get there before anyone can secure the datapoint, maybe you can turn a profit from any information recovered.

A security systems failure has left a lot of very lucrative data lying around. We need you to recover it for us. You can keep whatever else you find at the site

We have identified the location of some very lucrative data. If you can recover it before anyone else, there will be a handsome reward in it for you.

This needs to be on the down-low, Commander. We've got a lead on some high-value data. If you can recover it, maybe we can put it to good use.

Our operatives have found some high-value data at a settlement belonging to our competitor. We would appreciate your help scanning it so we can keep ahead of them.

any of the missions above lead to a settlement
any other - to a shipwreck

 

[Val Sylvana]

I tried one of these the other day for the first time in ages, and it led me to Jaroua 3A (-75.69 lat, -86.80 long).

That ended up being right on top of a rugged mountain range. I couldn't see anything from the ship, so I drove around for a while in the Scarab thinking I might pick up something artificial like a crashed probe on the scanner, but came up empty.

Haven't bothered to try it in Horizons because my controls aren't set up at the moment, but I assume that would have been fairly level. I'm sure the coordinates given in the message aren't going to magically between versions, but maybe if you get lucky it's not broken in all cases? That said, it might be one of those things they should have thought through a bit more.

 

[djadjok]

I tried one of these the other day for the first time in ages, and it led me to Jaroua 3A (-75.69 lat, -86.80 long).

That ended up being right on top of a rugged mountain range. I couldn't see anything from the ship, so I drove around for a while in the Scarab thinking I might pick up something artificial like a crashed probe on the scanner, but came up empty.

Haven't bothered to try it in Horizons because my controls aren't set up at the moment, but I assume that would have been fairly level. I'm sure the coordinates given in the message aren't going to magically between versions, but maybe if you get lucky it's not broken in all cases? That said, it might be one of those things they should have thought through a bit more.

Tip Off directing to Jaroua in facts points to Galouye Mine settlement. If I understand well most - quite probably all - tip offs pointing to planetary bases in Odyssey have wrong coordinates. You can visit this settlement and get one of the "corporate data logs".