Tired of the Open vs. Private Debacle

Dietger

Dietger
No one ever here is playing alone.


Ignorant to the fact, Open is compromised by any game mode not granting imminent accessibility, to all participants inside the shared game mode.
Open.
 

Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
Ian Skippy said:
No, the problem as OP clearly explains is that people who don't play in Open still influence Open. What you make of that is up you you, but willfully misrepresenting a very simple argument just to make you feel better about the mode you chose in a computer game is rather lame.

The problem isn't that people can't see you. The problem is that they can still smell you.
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Like i said, split out the modes, create a PvE server with its own open mode, and i'd bet you'd still get complaints from the same people.

I mean, it wouldn't be complaints about how its "unfair" they they can't kill people flying weaker ships. The complaints would shift to how the game is bad, how FD must change it to encourage people to play on the PvP server, how terrible it is people can enjoy themselves doing PvE on a separate server, how empty the galaxy is because hardly anyone plays on the PvP server.
 

Dietger

Dietger
Ziggy Stardust said:
My solution to players influencing my game from other modes is to not care about it. That solution has worked for me for years, and I feel fine.

Other players, who do care, have spent thousand of words and many pounds of indignation on this forum and have absolutely nothing to show for, except some foam around the mouth and a false sense of superiority about how they play the game.

Both options are available to players. The choice was a pretty easy one for me, but anyone can decide for themselves.
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The big mistake Frontier made was including Open inside their game.
 

Stelar 7

Stelar 7
If open was intended as PvP then blocking would not exist.

Open offers a PvP option, along with a chance to meet new people. Meet someone you would rather not meet again, easy just push the button.
 

Dietger

Dietger
Stelar 7 said:
If open was intended as PvP then blocking would not exist.

Open offers a PvP option, along with a chance to meet new people. Meet someone you would rather not meet again, easy just push the button.
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Open can be many things. PvP one of them. I always regard the opportunity as freedom ...

Cutting it into little pieces may make it accessible in aspects but kills it doing so.
 

Ian Skippy

Ian Skippy
Agony_Aunt said:
Like i said, split out the modes, create a PvE server with its own open mode, and i'd bet you'd still get complaints from the same people.

I mean, it wouldn't be complaints about how its "unfair" they they can't kill people flying weaker ships. The complaints would shift to how the game is bad, how FD must change it to encourage people to play on the PvP server, how terrible it is people can enjoy themselves doing PvE on a separate server, how empty the galaxy is because hardly anyone plays on the PvP server.
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That's a straw man. Argue the arguments presented, not hypothetical ones.
 

Dietger

Dietger
Open is the ultimate sozial solution to modern digital gaming. Freedom of choices. Be prepared!
Cutting innocent around its edges kills it.
 

Ian Skippy

Ian Skippy
Dietger said:
Open can be many things. PvP one of them. I always regard the opportunity as freedom ...

Cutting it into little pieces may make it accessible in aspects but kills it doing so.
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Exactly, just like I appreciated how in Morrowind even essential NPCs can be killed. I didnt, but the possibility gave a sense of freedom. In ED I don't fly PvP ships but the possibility of it occuring adds to the experience. And that is just my opinion. :)
 

Dietger

Dietger
Ian Skippy said:
Exactly, just like I appreciated how in Morrowind even essential NPCs can be killed. I didnt, but the possibility gave a sense of freedom. In ED I don't fly PvP ships but the possibility of it occuring adds to the experience. And that is just my opinion. :)
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Didn't kill anyone in Ages!
Playing Open only here.

The beauty does not need any compromises.

S!
 

Dietger

Dietger
House0fDerp said:
FDev designed open. It didn't just magically appear devoid of human intent or effort.
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The installed it. Yes.
Frontier diminished its effects and efforts of participants.
No one rules it.
Nor will they ever fly it, rule it, or manage to keep it out of harms way, considering the traps around it.
 

[Diplomacy] Carnegie

[Diplomacy] Carnegie
Dietger said:
The installed it. Yes.
Frontier diminished its effects and efforts of participants.
No one rules it.
Nor will the ever fly it, rule it, or manage to keep it out of harms way, considering the traps around it.
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Alternatively, it was designed NOT to be ruled.
The root of the problem YOU have with the modes is not the modes themselves - it's actually PMFs.

Without PMFs nobody would have the idea that you could 'win' at ED. People would just fly around in whatever mode they chose, affecting the BGS willy-nilly and nobody would bat an eyelid.

Incidentally, nobody ever complains about solo players affecting the BGS when it's doing 'good' things. Nobody cares if someone delivers thousands of tons of biowaste to a minor faction system and causes an outbreak. They're actually happy that it happens because they can run lots of missions for their chosen faction and make all the credits.

So, the moral of this story is: FDev should removes PMFs!
 
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