To make 5 billion on a perfect trade route, how much time is that?

Until they start using tricked out pythons and condas in conflict zones/ganking people who have no chance against a ship of that size. Let's be honest, 2 players of fairly equal skill, if one is in a viper and one in a python, the python is going to win 9 times out of 10. So having money DOES give them an advantage.

Let's be honest, every gamma player who really, really wanted to get python or anaconda asap already has one pimped out and ready for action. Yet, ganking / griefing doesn't seem to be a huge issue, aside from an occasional "mean NPC pulled me out of supercruise and did unnatural things to my ship" forum post.
 
It is a very stupid move from them.

After all ED is also becoming a competitive game, now we have a (large?) number of unintended cheaters online who will not care if they lose a ship.
If they act like this on such glitches it does not promise a good feature, they seem not to understand the implications.
 
People get over it, yes they are stupiditly rich and if they keep the money they will be bored of the game in 2 weeks or less. You on the other hand will have the satisfaction of deserving every asset you worked for!

I could be proud if getting money in elite wasn't based on hauling stuff from A to B then B to A 2-300 times. I'm proud to not be able to do that for an extended period of time
 
And my question to you is - how does this affect your game in any way at all?

Answer - it doesn't. It may make you envious and jealous, but it doesn't affect your game. Let it go and keep space trucking, just like I am.

What's really funny is how FD is like...woops, we gave you 5 billion credits by accident...well, no worries...you can keep it while on the other hand, people who were selling parts or ships or whatever with Founder's World discounts are going to be facing some sort of disciplinary action according to a vague statement by the devs.

I'm not saying not to take action against players abusing an exploit but at the same time that they're going to slap the hands of people who maybe made millions...they have no problem with players who they accidentally gave 5 billion credits to? I know it wasn't their fault but they should be a little more consistent in my opinion.
 
I wonder, when the whining will start - because someone scores the elite-contest - about that some people have more time to play the game and are therefore benefited...
 
I dont care if he keeps his credits, it does not effect me in the slightest and secretly I am very jealous - if I was him I would be buying up some nice ships and addon toys for them - what a shopping trip (sigh)
 
How much fun is combat when you're in no danger? As for exploration, why do you need 5 billion credits to go exploring? You can do it effectively in a hauler.

I made 150 million off an exploit back in gamma before they announced there'd be no wipe, so I wiped myself. Having that much cash without earning it properly felt really lame and would have seriously impacted my enjoyment if I'd kept it.
It might not take five billion credits but the best equipment for exploration costs a pretty penny. So if all you're really interested in is exploration you have to grind things you don't like doing just to enable yourself to do something you do ​like doing.
 
Do your damned research. They said if they notice people doing this (buying multiple assets then giving back) they will deal with it on a case by case basis like exploits.

I don't think you actually understand the point myself and many others are making.

You get 5 billion credits, you decide to keep those credits and forget about the race to elite.
You buy an anaconda and fully kit it out. You could then...

1, Head to a conflict zone. Where you kill lots of ships super fast, where you target me and drive me away from that conflict zone and in turn harm my chances of winning the race to elite.
2, Head off to a rares station and pirate traders and happily interdict my asp, while ignoring your friends that are still in the race to elite competition, in your big, shiny, free, melty boat, again harming my chances of winning the race to elite.

FD have a legal responsibility to run a fair and honest competition, that's not my opinion, that's law, UK law. You, being able to run about in your big, free, shiny, melty boat, selectively choosing whose chance of winning the race to elite competition your going to interfere with, is in no way, in any stretch of the imagination, running a fair competition.
 
Lets assume the profit is 3000cr / t

How can you find that good of a trade? I can get $1700/ton on one stop, then 250 cr, then 850 cr on the 3rd stop/ton. 2 of the stations are 100 ls apart in the same system, and the other is one jump away. I have found decent trades using slopeys that didn't even show up on the galaxy map with any trading activity, so I don't know how to use the galaxy map for trades...or I would.
 
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Do the exploits even matter?!

About 50+ players have been given freely 5 billion credits.
* Without a doubt that money will be shared between players and the PvP balance in completely broken.

I bought the game to experience epic battles between players, but if this is how players get rewarded is beyond me...To get rewarded for a bug...

I am still wasting my time grinding with my type 6 at around 10 mil and others have been simply given the end-game...

Must be great to be to win any battle with a half a billion credit ship under your control.
 
I don't think you actually understand the point myself and many others are making.

You get 5 billion credits, you decide to keep those credits and forget about the race to elite.
You buy an anaconda and fully kit it out. You could then...

1, Head to a conflict zone. Where you kill lots of ships super fast, where you target me and drive me away from that conflict zone and in turn harm my chances of winning the race to elite.
2, Head off to a rares station and pirate traders and happily interdict my asp, while ignoring your friends that are still in the race to elite competition, in your big, shiny, free, melty boat, again harming my chances of winning the race to elite.

FD have a legal responsibility to run a fair and honest competition, that's not my opinion, that's law, UK law. You, being able to run about in your big, free, shiny, melty boat, selectively choosing whose chance of winning the race to elite competition your going to interfere with, is in no way, in any stretch of the imagination, running a fair competition.


Someone mentioned buying assets then reselling to get most of the money back, which is what I was responding to. I do happen to somewhat agree on the fact that they can use it in conflict zones etc.
 
I don't think you actually understand the point myself and many others are making.

You get 5 billion credits, you decide to keep those credits and forget about the race to elite.
You buy an anaconda and fully kit it out. You could then...

1, Head to a conflict zone. Where you kill lots of ships super fast, where you target me and drive me away from that conflict zone and in turn harm my chances of winning the race to elite.
2, Head off to a rares station and pirate traders and happily interdict my asp, while ignoring your friends that are still in the race to elite competition, in your big, shiny, free, melty boat, again harming my chances of winning the race to elite.

FD have a legal responsibility to run a fair and honest competition, that's not my opinion, that's law, UK law. You, being able to run about in your big, free, shiny, melty boat, selectively choosing whose chance of winning the race to elite competition your going to interfere with, is in no way, in any stretch of the imagination, running a fair competition.
While I agree that allowing them to keep the credits while also running the competition is a poor idea, I think too many people automatically assume that anyone with a lot of credits is without a doubt a grade-A at who'll just buy the best everything and troll people.

Sure, they could. Doesn't mean they will.
 
Don't expect a fair competition.

The exploiters can quickly share the money between other players thus giving Frontier a harder time in tacking legitimate game-play. Same story with the players that got 5 billion credits, they can share with multiple players and give them an advantage over others, this competition in all honesty is a joke.

Unless Frontier is going to monitor thousands of players that are dealing with these credits, of which I doubt.

The solution to this whole issue should have been a roll back for those specific accounts, but it seems Frontier took the lazy way out in dealing with this scenario.... just let them keep the money...lol
 
I've been in a conflict zone tonight and seen pythons and anacondas. 1 anaconda even engaged me as I was killing enemy ships.

Fact is they allow people to cheat their credits and buy cheated ships, they allow those same people to use those ships to interfere with my ability to win the race to elite competition.
They aren't running a fair competition, which by law they are required to do.

Would probably be fairer to give everyone 5 billion credits. If that would ruin your game, buy some anacondas, hit the self destruct and jump in a sidewinder, rinse and repeat until you have similar credits to what you had before you got the 5 bill.

1st 3000/t profit filling a t9 in what universe lol. Nothing in the game anymore gets that kind of profit except rares and there is no way to get that many. Even saying 1700 is being very generous.
2nd people could easily have had plenty of time to legitimately get into an anaconda or python. Even players that started on release. It all depends on the time you have to game. I only get about 3 hours a day or every other day. But I don't blame guys who can play all day everyday for getting ahead. Only thing is I really wish it was easier to make a little more money quicker so I can get to the anaconda this year maybe.
 
How can you find that good of a trade? I can get $1700/ton on one stop, then 250 cr, then 850 cr on the 3rd stop/ton. 2 of the stations are 100 ls apart in the same system, and the other is one jump away. I have found decent trades using slopeys that didn't even show up on the galaxy map with any trading activity, so I don't know how to use the galaxy map for trades...or I would.

The point is that you probably cant. You are much more likely to find one which has 1500 cr/t profit which means that the time it takes doubles from the 3000cr/t route. It was just to illustrate how much time it takes with even a perfect route.
 
1st 3000/t profit filling a t9 in what universe lol. Nothing in the game anymore gets that kind of profit except rares and there is no way to get that many. Even saying 1700 is being very generous.
2nd people could easily have had plenty of time to legitimately get into an anaconda or python. Even players that started on release. It all depends on the time you have to game. I only get about 3 hours a day or every other day. But I don't blame guys who can play all day everyday for getting ahead. Only thing is I really wish it was easier to make a little more money quicker so I can get to the anaconda this year maybe.

Thats the point, it takes an enourmous ammount of time with even that. At 1500 cr/t it doubles.
 
Does how much money they have effect you? No.

And I wonder...how many of the complainers are 1) Jealous and 2) Only play in solo so they never see another commander.

Stop your moaning, I bet if they had the billions they would not be complaining.

Elite is not about having the best and most expensive stuff, it's about the journey. Who cares how long it takes to get something. Just have fun.
 
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