DSSA will definitely help provided they stay fueled and the prices are in line.
When they have visitors, I image they will be moving a serious amount of fuel. Do we know if they plan on being fully staffed long term or just for the trip there?
Tritium Mining in the black
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DSSA will definitely help provided they stay fueled and the prices are in line.
When they have visitors, I image they will be moving a serious amount of fuel. Do we know if they plan on being fully staffed long term or just for the trip there?
Only if u want to be totaly independed from bubble. If you agree on refuelling visiting civilisation then these percengates can look totaly diffrent.
Even if they are not prividing fuel they can be helpful as well - u can upload scanned sysems in the black. I mean they are helpful to explorers without carrier.
And, even being completely independent, if you don't fill up the FC with a whole ring of tritium, 500LY jump is 140-150t of fuel, which you can do in 1 or 2 hours of mining. Then you can spend weeks exploring from the point where you have your base.
A member of the DSSA has catagorically stated they cannot offer refueling services in one of these fuel issue threads.
I am definitely not racing during exploration, what would be the point?
The problem is that finding icy rings with tritium hotspots is difficult.
I am finding plenty of VO, LTD, bromellite and other hotspots but tritium are very rare.
“Speed” of exploration has nothing to do with RNG.
At the moment, I am also finding plenty of hotspots.
But again, I explore before moving the FC, not the other way around...
For the records, yesterday I did 266t of tritium in 2h, single hotspot, from start to closure of the session. SSD are indeed good, but quite slow to get IMO.
Okay so i've just done a proper test of a conclusion.. laser mine everything on the way between glowing sub surface rocks in tritium hotspots..
And im going to keep my mouth shut because that technique combination + experience is definitely acceptable to fuel your tanks with. Its strangely familiar actually.
Now that we know that the colors of the part of the hotspot you drop in effects some outcome, that's probably worth learning as well.
Also +1 to tritium hotspots everywhere.
And im going to keep my mouth shut because that technique combination + experience is definitely acceptable to fuel your tanks with. Its strangely familiar actually.
Now that we know that the colors of the part of the hotspot you drop in effects some outcome, that's probably worth learning as well.
Also +1 to tritium hotspots everywhere.
+1 can confirm mining tritium for fuel purposes is just where it needs to be.
Also with subsurface.. even on the highest hits, i only seem to be getting 3 chunks visually at least... if anything, i get a few more goes before the deposit expires than when i last remember doing it.. is that the buff?
A couple of times I got 5 chunks, but I am incurring in a very annoying bug. I fire the missile, it reaches the SSD, it starts digging and explodes, or it explodes during the deployment phase. At first I thought it was me releasing the trigger, but then I noticed that when this happens, the percentage of the SSD doesn't go down, so the missile explosion is not recorded at all. I just lose one ammo, and considering how limited it is and it happens almost every successful extraction, it's really limiting the use of SSD for me.
Some other times it explodes immediately after leaving the ship, the only explanation I could give is that it hits one of the limpets returning after a collection.
I think this pretty well sums it up for the solo explorer with a carrier. There's a lot of balance between being a space simulation, encompassing the mind boggling vastness of the galaxy, and keeping things within reach.
I have my first go at tritium mining in the black. Though I'm not the biggest fan of mining (though I've done a metric butt load of it), I find the numbers reasonable. Sure, I'd love it if they'd give me a bump in both availability and speed of acquiring. The reality is that if you were exploring the galaxy, gathering resources and using the properly would be a significant part of the adventure. There is a certain amount of monotony in space. I keep thinking of Chekov commenting on how tired he was of scanning rocks in "The Wrath of Khan".
The method of mining tritium is different from the Borann triple hot spot method. It takes a whirling resource management/VR sickening approach of laser mining, sub-surface bombs (who doesn't like bombs?), and abrasion blasting while managing limpets and cargo space. The closeness of the asteroids is almost claustrophobic. Compared to LTD mining, it feels like having a wife of 25 years who suddenly decides to spice things up in the bedroom.
Yet, the monotony is what makes those special moments....special. Without it I don't think we'd have an appreciation of the enormity of what we undertake in the black. To me it's certainly worth it. Bottom line, if you can buy a snootful of tritium to strike out in the galaxy, certainly do it. But be prepared to gather resources, it's a part of the job.
It makes massive undertakings such as the DSSA all the more important, where explorers, miners, and fleet carrier owners make the black "livable".
-Cmdr Mercillus
DSSA Gene Roddenberry
Only ships and modules you offer for sale contribute towards available space.
Your personal hangar is free.
This is actually so well balanced by now, that I struggle what ship to use: My CMK4 in which I perform better in SSD mining, while my python is better for Laser mining. Also: If you go for laser mining, try blindly shooting at rocks and look at the percentage if and how much Tritium is displayed. Then fire a prospector drone if it looks promising. Ratios above 20% are no rarity in Tritium hotspots and don't require any glowing!
And yet, I'm more effective in my CMk4 with focus on SSD. It's also more fun and more variable: every once in a while I like to crack open a core of one of the more valuable minerals when I stumble upon one. I guess I'm 50% explorer and 50% miner. The latter wants to make some coin once I arrive in the bubble. This goes at the expense of my general galactic movement pace, of course.The smaller cargo space is more than compensated by the fact that my carrier is parked close to the ring where I'm mining. In about 2 minutes I'm usually docked and it's only the gravity why it's not even faster. The CMk4 is (one of?) the slowest small ship in the game, and yet extremely nimble: In FA Off you can literally wrap it around a rock!
Interesting what you said about the color of the hotspot rings. I've never read about it on the forums but already suspecting this for some days now. My current believing is that it boils down to an indicator of density of the rock distribution which then in return results in a higher possibility of the more interesting glowing ones (for anything else but laser mining who don't require this).
Wow, its amazing how different our approaches are. First difference is i take large ships only, and also with the cargo already 100% full of limpets, so this changes the laser mining dynamic completely. You fire a prospector at whatever you want and start laser mining for me anything ~10% and above. Even though this probably does not min max the yield, for me to be happy, i like to be mining as close to 100% uptime as possible.. I hate chasing the jackpots and rng.. i want my cargo to be filling up constantly.
Yeah so far anyway tritium hotspot mining is in fun police territory so i don't want to say too much. Its what you'd expect from a goldrush anyway, except its for carrier fuel not diamonds. Im going to test the same thing on a non overlapping ltd hotspot just to see what happens...
Which leads to rings color.. i think its possibility different to what you think. We know in theory that for core mining specifically it needs the cores. Laser mining is absolutely effected by the hotspot itself, see the recent patch notes for the mechanic. In the triple ltd hotspots since beyond laser mining is the primary technique. Not sure how subsurface deposits are effected by the hotspot. I only very rarely got a non tritum subsurface deposit while mining in a tritium hotspot, so pending a test mining outside a hotspot id be inclined to think they are effected by the spot too.
You think monotony is a feature?
I've only been in a single tritium hotspot.. that's why i don't want to be too loud
and also curious to see how it applies to other commodities. Did you try one of the previous single or double ltd hotspots? ...From those patch notes, i did try to think about where to drop out in the hotspot..
Some seam to believe the mining rate of 100t/ he is attainable. My rate, before giving up, was 20t in 25 minutes. It then just became about buying it. After running out I doubled back to fill up my T9, so I can start jumping back to the bubble and just buy even more there. No way you'll mine 1000t in reasonable time. Even if 100t/ hr was possible, that's 10 hours. Absurd.
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What is your setup for mining SSD? I run out of missiles after two asteroids. I have just explored some planet to get some tungsten for the reload, but it's quite rare.
Have you got a class 1 SSDM? They only hold 32. The class 2 holds 96. 2 asteroids? Lotsa shots!
And what Frillo Freyraum said.
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I'd say, if anything it's a nerf. Not long ago even 4 SSD chunks were quite common. Still very ok I suppose. I just tried some laser mining under realistic conditions (while moving in deep space), that is a single Tritium hotspot. And here SSD mining clearly wins. The best I've seen so far was this one (and I really like to see how triple hotspots are so much better):
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That gave me just 7 tons of Tritium. Even a single SSD chunk doubles that! So I'd say, for single Tritium hotspots nothing beats SSD mining. The good news is, that about every 3rd roid has something above 20%, so there definitely was a buff to Tritium mining in hotspots to support FC self-fueling in deep space. And I must confess, this method certainly has some Netflix potential...
Anyway, do what you like best, that's all what matters. I for one love the idea, that one of the most scoffed at ships in the game (the Cobra Mk4) seems to beat them all in this specific job! And even brings a certain element of skill into the play, something that's otherwise so badly missed in mining.
Nice. That sounds perfect for what you're doing. Just for theory discussion, the other difference with large ships is the number of active collectors, i have 8 or 10 out at any time, and with the collection speed that allows you can go for 10% (or anything) without guilt. In my opinion anyway im guessing there are people who would disagree.
Yeah because of the unremarkable chunks the first conclusion was to put back the ss gear and just use those to plot a route, laser mining everything on the way and doing the ss when there. Checked out fun and rewarding. My mining ship actually has 2 huge hardpoints that have weapons equipped (its engineered too) for the bubble... can't bear to change ship now, but out of bubble will put an abrasion blaster and the seismic launcher back on too for fun
... So public opinion is that theres too little and too much of it, but being related to separate problems. I really hope they don't touch this.. even if it turns out they have to to fix other problems.