Trouble finding G5 Materials

There is now an abundance in encrypted emissions around which can provide g4 materials of a great variety. Fodder for the material trader.
 
The materials you get from a HGE are dependent of the owning faction's state and no longer determined by the system state. You see that in the top right corner information after selecting the HGE.
Yup this but it makes it annoying. I searched for outbreak system and finally found a good one but only minor factions with war state gave the hge signals there. So no pharma isolators for me.
 
Just maxed out MSCs in SOCH.


Thanks for the tip. If it's still in Civil war next time I am on, I will give that a try.


The materials you get from a HGE are dependent of the owning faction's state and no longer determined by the system state. You see that in the top right corner information after selecting the HGE.

This is still a matter of debate. Many believe it's the exact opposite and that system state is still all that matters. My understanding from a few others was that limited testing has shown that HGE state actually does not matter.

As said earlier, I found Proto Heat Radiators in a HGE who's state was none, that should not be possible. It could have been an anomoly, we have seen some odd stuff since the update, but in my personal experience System state is what matters not the state of the HGE. The only part of the HGE state that matters is the timer.
 
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Heh,

Months ago I started a thread expressing concern about the availability of G5 mat's after 3.3

After playing the Beta, I commented that it didn't look like locating G5 mat's was going to be a problem and that nobody might ever have to struggle to find them again.

Of course, the fundamental flaw in that assessment was that the Beta was using the (at the time) current BGS rather than the new one.

I haven't played the game much since 3.3 but I logged in to collect my xmas firewaorks from Li Yong-Rui yesterday and decided to engineer a couple of bi-weave shields at the same time.
I've got no Improvised Components, dammit.
Off to an independant system in Civil Unrest, then.
Oh, wait.
EDDB tells me there are currently a grand total of two systems in Civil Unrest and they're both in Fed' space.
The game tells me there are two different systems in Civil Unrest, both in Fed space and both with tiny populations... but off I go.
After an hour of hopping back and forth between these systems I've maxxed-out my store of CD-Composites, Mil-Composites and a couple of G4 mats but got ZERO Improvised Components.

Seems like, perhaps, it might have been prudent for FDev to set a variety of systems into different states when 3.3 went live.


It's fish for engineers all over again. Introduce something new in beta, everybody gets delighted about it but can't actually beta test it because ultimately they are not testing what the live game experience will be.
 
I have searched for Improvised Components for over 2 weeks - still no luck. Has anyone had any luck with these cursed things?
 
No. Can't find improvised components, nor pharma. isolators or military supercap. But the other grade 5s are easy to find, so I went the material trader way. Even at 1 to 6 rate it's much faster than hunting for the rare ones. I hope it's just about giving the bgs a bit more time..

Overall, even with these problems, it's a much better system. And this coming from someone who used to love chilling in space, hunting for these elusive hges .. :) - I miss it sometimes, no reason to idle in supercruise now hehe
 
No. Can't find improvised components, nor pharma. isolators or military supercap. But the other grade 5s are easy to find, so I went the material trader way. Even at 1 to 6 rate it's much faster than hunting for the rare ones. I hope it's just about giving the bgs a bit more time..

Overall, even with these problems, it's a much better system. And this coming from someone who used to love chilling in space, hunting for these elusive hges .. :) - I miss it sometimes, no reason to idle in supercruise now hehe

I did manage to resupply those G5 mats. Wasn't easy though. G5 mat spawning now isn't as straight forward as before.

Before the change you had to be in the system with the right allegiance and state. This is no longer the case. Any Faction in a system that has the required allegiance and status will have an increased chance to spawn the G5 mat you're after.

Don't waste anymore time with the HGE if it doesn't spawn the G5 mats from the get go. Because if won't do so when instance hopping. You'll have to find another HGE.

I also suspect, as in not proven to be a fact, that faction influence plays a role in how many signal sources they spawn. I say it's definitely worth it to try your luck in systems where factions are not the controlling faction and have the desired allegiance and state. This because of the recent BGS reset.

Would be nice if more people can test this. This method allowed me to refill my G5 mats.
 
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Thanks for the tip. If it's still in Civil war next time I am on, I will give that a try.




This is still a matter of debate. Many believe it's the exact opposite and that system state is still all that matters. My understanding from a few others was that limited testing has shown that HGE state actually does not matter.

As said earlier, I found Proto Heat Radiators in a HGE who's state was none, that should not be possible. It could have been an anomoly, we have seen some odd stuff since the update, but in my personal experience System state is what matters not the state of the HGE. The only part of the HGE state that matters is the timer.

Just curious. Did the system it self had the state none, just as the HGE did where you found the Proto Heat Radiators?

From my experience faction state and allegiance does play a role. For example I was in an Empire controlled system in Boom state and found Military Supercapacitors. The faction HGE's allegiance was Independent and state was Civil War.
 
Just run high-rank missions and kill whatever NPCs come along. You'll be up on mats before you know it.

I farmed this HGE over and over for about 10 minutes and I was maxed out on both these mats. I then jumped over to a Material Trader and traded them all for Military Supercapacitors.. boom.. done.

There is and its arguably faster than the old method. Load up on CDCs, which are abundant now, and use the mat trader.

There is now an abundance in encrypted emissions around which can provide g4 materials of a great variety. Fodder for the material trader.

Go do the passenger missions at robigo you will max g5 in no time plus earn plenty of credits.

No. Can't find improvised components, nor pharma. isolators or military supercap. But the other grade 5s are easy to find, so I went the material trader way.

OP. I trade for G5 by doing combat in haz res. Doesn't take long before the bins are full.

Some people are downright weird.

When my car won't start, I want it fixed.
I don't travel by train and then spend my time telling everybody how great trains are.

I was thinking about this yesterday.
I dunno if it even occured to FDev but resetting the BGS could have had massive consequences for the game.
If people can't get the stuff they want, and it's going to require the BGS to sort itself out before they can, it's quite plausible that a heap of people might just decide to go play other games until it's fixed.

I guess FDev are just lucky that a combination of dodgy gameplay coupled with some people's willingness to collect six times more mat's than they should have to (on top of the massively inflated mat' requirements that 3.0 inflicted on us) means there are those who'll keep plugging away at it regardless of how broken it is. [sad]
 
IMO, the most efficient way is Robigo passenger missions. In a passenger Python you can load up on missions that give 3-5 G5 mats each. After a dozen runs or so you'll be maxed on bioconductors, exquisite focus crystals, and modified embedded firmware. You'll also be a good bit richer. Trade those for whatever you need.
 
IMO, the most efficient way is Robigo passenger missions. In a passenger Python you can load up on missions that give 3-5 G5 mats each. After a dozen runs or so you'll be maxed on bioconductors, exquisite focus crystals, and modified embedded firmware. You'll also be a good bit richer. Trade those for whatever you need.

That's fine and dandy if you need lower grade mats. Trading G5 for G5 is wasteful. You can't get all G5 mats from Robigo <-> Sothis runs. If that were the case then yes it would be a great alternative. It's only worthwhile for the G5 mats you mention.
 
That's fine and dandy if you need lower grade mats. Trading G5 for G5 is wasteful. You can't get all G5 mats from Robigo <-> Sothis runs. If that were the case then yes it would be a great alternative. It's only worthwhile for the G5 mats you mention.

Not to mention that it's a fundamental flaw in the game if the only way to achieve something is to not do it and to do something else instead.

Seriously, why actually have the bloody mat's in the game at all if the only way to get half of them is to do something other than go looking for them to obtain them?
Why not just have missions giving away "engineering vouchers" as rewards?

I wanted to upgrade a legacy FSD today.
There are no systems in famine... anywhere.
So, in order to collect, say, a dozen DWEs, I need to collect seventy-chuffing-two of some other G5 data so I can trade it for 12 DWEs.
Two words, and the 2nd one is "off".
 
Not to mention that it's a fundamental flaw in the game if the only way to achieve something is to not do it and to do something else instead.

Seriously, why actually have the bloody mat's in the game at all if the only way to get half of them is to do something other than go looking for them to obtain them?
Why not just have missions giving away "engineering vouchers" as rewards?

I wanted to upgrade a legacy FSD today.
There are no systems in famine... anywhere.
So, in order to collect, say, a dozen DWEs, I need to collect seventy-chuffing-two of some other G5 data so I can trade it for 12 DWEs.
Two words, and the 2nd one is "off".

Yes, I get it, but AEC? Those are easy to get and no other use for them but 6:1 trade off. For me its faster than the direct way of farming for DWEs
 
Not to mention that it's a fundamental flaw in the game if the only way to achieve something is to not do it and to do something else instead.

Seriously, why actually have the bloody mat's in the game at all if the only way to get half of them is to do something other than go looking for them to obtain them?
Why not just have missions giving away "engineering vouchers" as rewards?

I wanted to upgrade a legacy FSD today.
There are no systems in famine... anywhere.
So, in order to collect, say, a dozen DWEs, I need to collect seventy-chuffing-two of some other G5 data so I can trade it for 12 DWEs.
Two words, and the 2nd one is "off".

It certainly is far from ideal. Famine distribution centers are normally the way to go for DWE. But why waste your time with trading alternative G5 materials for DWE's at horrible trade ratio's when you can alternatively get them relatively easy by parking yourself outside a busy star port?
 
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Yes, I get it, but AEC? Those are easy to get and no other use for them but 6:1 trade off. For me its faster than the direct way of farming for DWEs

Which only really serves to demonstrate that mat' gathering is broken in more than one way.
 
I just found a good spot for Military Supercapacitors. I was in HIP 93399 found a High Grade Emission signal source and grabbed a bunch before it timed out. The next High Grade had Military Grade Alloys. I am still hunting Pharmaceutical Isolators, no luck on them or improvised components.
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