UA Search re: Halsey, Galnet, Federation variables.

Anyone think it might be fun to dump a bunch of Unknown Artefacts into Sirius? Might force some story on story love as well as kicking Sirius in the junk.
 
A good point was brought up on the Canonn thread...

As for the revelation of the location of the Antares wreckage, I don't think it will lead to anything interesting. The fact that no organic remains being recovered is intriguing though...

Although the wreckage has been there for some time, I assume bodies do not decay significantly in space so some form of remains should have been found. I can think of a few possibilities:
  1. The wreckage has been looted by scavengers at some point and they removed the bodies
  2. The explosion was so huge it vapourised everyone and all traces of them
  3. Everyone on the Antares managed to reach escape pods and have been marooned somewhere since
  4. Everyone on the Antares was somehow removed from the ship before the explosion that destroyed it

It was also mentioned that the fixed wreckage sites are still present in Luyten 205-128. Could be worth checking if they are still in the other systems as well, in which case it is probably just a leftover from the CG. If not it may be worth a closer look at Luyten 205-128.
 
A good point was brought up on the Canonn thread...



Although the wreckage has been there for some time, I assume bodies do not decay significantly in space so some form of remains should have been found. I can think of a few possibilities:
  1. The wreckage has been looted by scavengers at some point and they removed the bodies
  2. The explosion was so huge it vapourised everyone and all traces of them
  3. Everyone on the Antares managed to reach escape pods and have been marooned somewhere since
  4. Everyone on the Antares was somehow removed from the ship before the explosion that destroyed it

It was also mentioned that the fixed wreckage sites are still present in Luyten 205-128. Could be worth checking if they are still in the other systems as well, in which case it is probably just a leftover from the CG. If not it may be worth a closer look at Luyten 205-128.

I think its for sure worth seeing if we can find some actual wreckage from the Antares in Luyten.

Do you think we can extrapolate a possible location for SS1's wreckage based on where the Antares was headed to and jumping from?

It is believed that SS1 was headed to Saga after the detour to Azaleach, yes?
 
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Just arrived in the Luyten 205-128 System, and there seems to be a semi-persistent Salvageable Wreckage in the system. If I had to wager, it's the wreck of the Antares. Seems like it's an incredibly dense cloud of debris, maybe 2km in diameter, with nothing scannable inside. A few avocados floating around in space around it though. Going to hang around it a bit longer, maybe see if there are any recognizable pieces with designations or the like, or if anything shows up.
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Addendum to previous investigation of Antares Wreck. There's.... a lot of Imperial ship fragments. Here's a shot of a fairly intact hull of a clipper, or cutter, or some such. Do we know what class of ship the Antares was?

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Ya interesting about Luyten 205-128 from the CG... there was only one wreckage location ... it was very close to the main star and it was the least likely to give wreckage components ... more often giving pirates.

Luyten 205-128 was also the furthest system from Sirius that had Wreckage ... Makes me think the wreckage for the Antares is on one of the planets ... cant be the stuff in orbit ... its obviously imperial ships etc... I REALLLY HOPE the Antares Wreckage will look like something different.
 
Ya interesting about Luyten 205-128 from the CG... there was only one wreckage location ... it was very close to the main star and it was the least likely to give wreckage components ... more often giving pirates.

Luyten 205-128 was also the furthest system from Sirius that had Wreckage ... Makes me think the wreckage for the Antares is on one of the planets ... cant be the stuff in orbit ... its obviously imperial ships etc... I REALLLY HOPE the Antares Wreckage will look like something different.

On a hunch, ran off to snag a mining laser, and decided to test the asteroids around the wreckage before investigating further. However, when I arrived, a high wake was discovered in the wreckage. Didn't have a wake scanner, or I would have followed it. Odd. The asteroids seemed fairly normal, though with a lot of palladium this time. Though they keep vanishing whenever I looked at the debris field and them at the same time. Maybe too many objects on screen at once? Quite irritating.

Although, and hear me out, I think I figured out the mystery. Ghost Asteroids blindsided the Antares. Done and Done. Never the less, I tire of space investigation!

To the surface I go! Nearest Planet seems likely, to.... Kawasakiworld? Huh.
 
The guy on distract-the-bomb duty must have fallen asleep.


(If anybody have played Starship Titanic, they may get the reference... :7)
 
Addendum to previous investigation of Antares Wreck. There's.... a lot of Imperial ship fragments. Here's a shot of a fairly intact hull of a clipper, or cutter, or some such. Do we know what class of ship the Antares was?

During the CG the wrecks were mostly Clippers and Federal Assault/Drop/Gunships. The Antares was a prototype ship from Sirius so it was unique, Antares class I guess. Since we don't have any Sirius ships I can't guess what it would look like but certainly not like anything from Gutamaya or the Federal shipyards.

Does anyone know if there was an image of Antares in Frontier: First Encounters?

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On a hunch, ran off to snag a mining laser, and decided to test the asteroids around the wreckage before investigating further. However, when I arrived, a high wake was discovered in the wreckage. Didn't have a wake scanner, or I would have followed it. Odd. The asteroids seemed fairly normal, though with a lot of palladium this time. Though they keep vanishing whenever I looked at the debris field and them at the same time. Maybe too many objects on screen at once? Quite irritating

Nice idea, shame it didn't give results.
 
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I have a feeling that the Antares crew and passengers are 'lost' somewhere.

It would not surprise me if more parts can be found by following the Sirius - Luyten 205-128 vector further.

There are several systems in the Malarni region that lines up nice and are in the 135-150ly range from Sirius.

I dont know if that distance range means anything for the Antares though.
 
Community Goal: The Search for Starship One

In May 3301, the personal vessel of the Federal president, Starship One, disappeared en route to the Azaleach system. An investigation was promptly launched, but the fate of the vessel and her crew, which included then-president Jasmina Halsey, could not be conclusively determined. In a statement released earlier today, Federal President Zachary Hudson announced his intention to resume the search for the ship, inspired by the discovery of the remains of the liner Antares:

"Like many others, I was heartened by the Sirius Corporation's success, and I found myself thinking that if the remains of a ship lost fifty years ago could be found, surely a ship lost less than a year ago could also be recovered. I am therefore offering generous reimbursements to pilots who deliver wreckage components to the Federal research outpost at Leoniceno Orbital in the Azaleach system. Once we have gathered enough material, we will analyse the debris to determine if any of it is from Starship One. If we are able to find the remains of the ship, we may be able to determine what happened to President Halsey and the rest of the ship's crew."

But it appears that President Hudson is not the only person eager to find Starship One. In a strange turn of events, an organisation by the name of Daurtu Jet Comms PLC has also announced its intention to search for the missing presidential vessel. Virtually nothing is known about Daurtu Jet Comms PLC, but the fact that it is offering even larger rewards than the Federation may convince pilots to lend the organisation their support.

There are two CGs to look for SS1 - the official Federation / Hudson one to deliver wreckage to Azaleach and the independent one to deliver wreckage to Daurtu. Closing date is 4th Feb, more details in the CG sticky. Both have issued the same list of search systems:

  • Niju
  • HIP 36014
  • Xbal
  • HR 2485
  • Lyncis Sector ON-T B3-1
  • Lyncis Sector ON-T B3-1
  • Lyncis Sector ON-T B3-1
  • HIP 30130
(I haven't joined the CG myself yet so have no idea why Lyncis Sector ON-T B3-1 is listed three times.)
 
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Community Goal: The Search for Starship One



There are two CGs to look for SS1 - the official Federation / Hudson one to deliver wreckage to Azaleach and the independent one to deliver wreckage to Daurtu. Closing date is 4th Feb, more details in the CG sticky. Both have issued the same list of search systems:

  • Niju
  • HIP 36014
  • Xbal
  • HR 2485
  • Lyncis Sector ON-T B3-1
  • Lyncis Sector ON-T B3-1
  • Lyncis Sector ON-T B3-1
  • HIP 30130
(I haven't joined the CG myself yet so have no idea why Lyncis Sector ON-T B3-1 is listed three times.)


Alrighty... lets get this one done.
 
Community Goal: The Search for Starship One



There are two CGs to look for SS1 - the official Federation / Hudson one to deliver wreckage to Azaleach and the independent one to deliver wreckage to Daurtu. Closing date is 4th Feb, more details in the CG sticky. Both have issued the same list of search systems:

  • Niju
  • HIP 36014
  • Xbal
  • HR 2485
  • Lyncis Sector ON-T B3-1
  • Lyncis Sector ON-T B3-1
  • Lyncis Sector ON-T B3-1
  • HIP 30130
(I haven't joined the CG myself yet so have no idea why Lyncis Sector ON-T B3-1 is listed three times.)

youve copied it down slightly wrong bud, it's B3-1, B3-2 and B3-3 ;)
 
The fed side has gotten to tier 2, I haven't checked the independent side. I think we definitely want both to succeed, if independent hasn't made it to tier 1 I'll switch later on in the CG.

Did both CGs start at the same time or did one start slightly before the other? I feel its very suspicious two different groups both decided to research SS1 at the same time...
 
The fed side has gotten to tier 2, I haven't checked the independent side. I think we definitely want both to succeed, if independent hasn't made it to tier 1 I'll switch later on in the CG.

Did both CGs start at the same time or did one start slightly before the other? I feel its very suspicious two different groups both decided to research SS1 at the same time...

Both started at the same time as far as I can tell. Could be that on hearing Hudson initiate an inquiry, Daurtu Jet Comms decided (much like I did) that they wouldn't trust Hudson to find a needle in a haystack of needles, or admit that he had found the specific needle in question, but spin it so the needle becomes a pin. So they decided to have their own independent inquiry.
 
Both started at the same time as far as I can tell. Could be that on hearing Hudson initiate an inquiry, Daurtu Jet Comms decided (much like I did) that they wouldn't trust Hudson to find a needle in a haystack of needles, or admit that he had found the specific needle in question, but spin it so the needle becomes a pin. So they decided to have their own independent inquiry.

I don't trust Hudson either but I doubt that Daurtu Jet Comms is doing this out of altruism. Are they the pawn of a larger corporation? Is there some sort of technology from SS1 that may be valuable? I think I defaulted to Hudson because its better to go with the enemy you know rather than the unknown. Ideally though we can support both and get answers from both. That way Daurtu can call out Hudson if he lies.

Hudson just doesn't strike me as bright enough to lie, to pull in your analogy I think he'd default to blasting the needle and then claim that is how he found it. When someone asked him why the wreckage had recently been shot he'd probably turn around and shoot them. He isn't very subtle...
 
I don't trust Hudson either but I doubt that Daurtu Jet Comms is doing this out of altruism. Are they the pawn of a larger corporation? Is there some sort of technology from SS1 that may be valuable? I think I defaulted to Hudson because its better to go with the enemy you know rather than the unknown. Ideally though we can support both and get answers from both. That way Daurtu can call out Hudson if he lies.

Hudson just doesn't strike me as bright enough to lie, to pull in your analogy I think he'd default to blasting the needle and then claim that is how he found it. When someone asked him why the wreckage had recently been shot he'd probably turn around and shoot them. He isn't very subtle...

oh I never suggested altruism, it's probable that DJC has an angle that we won't find out until the CG results are in, part of me is suspicious of them having some link to Sirius - perhaps something like a dummy corporation - but I have nothing more than tinfoil rash to back up that theory. It's equally possible, though admittedly unlikely, that they are indeed legit, perhaps some kind of personal connection between the high ups of DJC and someone(s) who went missing along with SS1.

Time and tiers will tell though.
 
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