UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

[Darkrei6n]

Why it must be exactly around planet? Distant shell in Merope system looks more logical.

This was my latest thought so far i've headed 450,000ls out from the Merope 5C large crater(had to start from somewhere) all at around just 90-97C, dropping into USS as they appear, only potentially interesting one so far was a low level Convoy Dispersal Pattern that appeared and as i approached it microsoft decided to force update my XBOX!!!!!

 

[CMDR_Mogriax]

Well, ok. Where the UP points away from when it's dropped is irrelevant, given that if you drop it at an arbitrary point, it'll point at one end towards 5C and at the other end to arbitrary points of no interest.

If we can find free-floating UPs that haven't been re-oriented, then the 'other end' could potentially point at something meaningful. It would have to be something very close though, since you can't move them to get a more accurate pointer without invalidating the experiment.

i noticed a cap ship around the star in merope.. whats the significance of the one next to merope planet 2?

 

[bitstorm]

Not sure if anyone though of this, but does the Unknown artefact remind anyone of an organic version of an ocellus station?
I had that thought yesterday , so I'm going to leave that here ^^.
The little things flying around it could be tiny ships, trying to attack their agressors with explosions, not strong enough for our shields, but resulting in it damaging you cargo hull ...
Don't know what the point would be of tiny aliens but hey ^^

Aye, back in thread 2!

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...anonn/page56?p=2519619&viewfull=1#post2519619

And the discussion continued over the next few posts.

It was never disproved.

 

[Surl Tesh-echer]

Stupid question. But why is it pointing to Merope 5C, MB?

I would rather ask HOW it (UA to Merope and UP to Merope 5C) orientates? How is that possible? You can push it, drop it to any system, and still it can orient to point exactly to Merope/5C. Does it have Universal Cartographics inside?

 

[DialBforBiscuit]

UP image overlayed on Merope System. Its interesting because Merope as a system is perpendicular to the galactic horizon, but Merope 5c is almost parallel. Check out this gallery https://imgur.com/a/NHVgq#sKrjzHT

Spoiler

 

[Andargor]

There is no direct connection with the barnacles.

Michael

I'm wondering Michael, why are you giving hints? :S

 

[bitstorm]

Ya good "point" It seems like another off the ecliptic search might be in order

Off the eliptical "down" (or up) maybe between 30 and 60 degrees?

 

[Niamhy]

Everytime MB answers with something he already said before, I feel like we are wasting the amount of hints he will give us.

he's probably pulling his hair out in frustration that we haven't got it yet, just as much as we are that we haven't got it yet lmao. Torture for both parties, this

 

[simulacrae]

But that's arguing a different thing isn't it: the idea that the UP has a special location specifically related to its purpose is not the same as saying the other end of the UP might point to somewhere of importance, since the second statement will not hold true for all places where the first does.

As an example, let's say that the UP's special place is within a certain distance of Earth - well, at any given point in time, at least half (and likely many more) of all the locations you choose which fit that criterion will yield a position where the UP points away from Earth itself, but, even more importantly, to nowhere in particular.

So I'm done with this debate now. I'm happy to entertain the possibility, as Han_Zen reminded us that the UP behaviour changes near to a planet, that there might be a location which is somehow more important to the UP - but the 'other direction' in which the probe points when at this location is not important - because it won't ever be fixed.

Hmmm back to my original point UP has one head pointing at Merope UP has TWO heads ... One pointing at merope 5c .... Other Probably pointing out to UA shell. Hence dual pointing and only valid if UP is in between UA shell and merope ...... And like bitstorm argues .... I like the UPs in system ... And yes I'm probably wrong but my logic is sufficiently tinfoled so I'm not sure why I'm getting so much pushback

 

[Niamhy]

I'm wondering Michael, why are you giving hints? :S

have you ever hidden an easter egg for a child, then watched them run around the garden in circles for 30 minutes, getting more and more frustrated? Seriously, you give hints. Unless you're sadistic.

 

[Xenia_K]

*tinfoil hat on*
just went back to the basics.
If U want to point somewhere in space YOU NEED FIXED reference positions. The only fixed ones in FD Universe are the stars.
Assumption: lower left group (marked --l) is representing two vectors, center of diagram (merope) defines a point.
with two vectors and a point in math u define a plane.
So the equation would be (-78: -150:-340) + r*(x1:z1:y1) + s*(x2:z2:y2)
the group has no arc indicator(s), hence NEXT System.
Nearest System to Merope are Sterope2(r) and Maia(s).
If You put the vectors of those relative to Merope You get

(-78: -150:-340) + r*(-4:+2:-2) + s*(-4:0:-3) (btw r minus s results in (0:2:-1) which is 30° like in the diagram)

Now, the direction vector of group -l- is roughly -90° from the middle of the two Group 4 vectors
hence it would be (-4:+1:-2,5), if we rotate that -90° we get (+1:-4:-2,5) relative to Merope
Scaling it:
group three gives us 2 arcs incoming (UA shell) ~150LY
group two tells us 1 arc out =75 LY

By this we get a position of (-63:-210:-377,5) which is quite good the position of Plejades Sector RI-T B3-1, a T-Tauri System.

Might be worth a try

*tinfoil hat off*

just for clarification - i don´t think that free-floaters are to be found there, I think the UP diagram is the UPs "address" where to send the information gathered
- either to another type of unknown artefact, like a relay, or to its progenitors

 

[Andargor]

have you ever hidden an easter egg for a child, then watched them run around the garden in circles for 30 minutes, getting more and more frustrated? Seriously, you give hints. Unless you're sadistic.

So we are all Michael's children?

 

[bitstorm]

Support just replaced the bugged UP, tvm guys. I am relieved.

I'm sorry this has happened, I have added an unknown probe to your cargo hold.

 

[LordZoltan]

Support just replaced the bugged UP, tvm guys. I am relieved.

Isn't that just lovely

 

[Niamhy]

So we are all Michael's children?

*Freddy Kruger voice* YOU ARE ALL MY CHILDREN NOW... muahahaha... lol

 

[Xenia_K]

Support just replaced the bugged UP, tvm guys.

[up]

Though took a while, which indicates to me they had to discuss internally first if they do.
When a bug crashed my ship upon recall, they placed it back in orbit within 10 minutes, and that Saturday night 2 o´clock

 

[Stillsober]

I think it's about what questions you ask.
Obscure yet on topic.
personally I think it's staring us in the face.
Merope 5 I have been told is a binary system,
I think something on Merope 5c or around it.
Im truly stumped though. I have searched everything in space there.
Multiple landings on Merope 5c but nothing new yet.
The only thing left is to try and line up the varying orbits with the spectrograph as a key.
But I don't know unless it becomes obvious what there will be.
I also don't think UP will be in Merope why would it point to itself the UA wasn't

unless MB says there is nothing in Merope I will keep searching.

 

[Niamhy]

this is the thing. He said the Artifacts and Probes are interested in Merope for a reason. He didn't say we'd find that reason in Merope. So.. um... who knows.

 

[who?]

scratching our heads
maybe we just need thousands more pilots to cover 5c every square inch and if nothing is found we can walk around

Scratch that. I'm crawling around, picking apart every grain of dirt with a tweezers.

 

[Gorrister]

Could you add a page to the spreadsheet about what tests had been done to the audio files of UP and UA. I have no idea if frequency filters were already tested on the UP signal. Are there results from the UA or barnacle signals, that could point to a frequency range?