UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

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+1 Good work on the animation. So it's clear the viewpoint is from the alien ship, most probably having destroyed several Empire ships and now firing at the Adder (that's what would explain best the green spots at its side IMHO). Leaves the question about the nature of the Adder and why the alien ship crashed after this, but we may possibly not find that out. Wonder how this all would fit into the Granger bunch stories about waking up in a different system and so on [noob]

The Canister seen hold Meta-Alloys I am sure
 
whatever that ship is its the size of a cruiser so i think this might ve either a scout ship or worse

but for now we the cmdr's didnt made first contact with them yet so let us hope someone peacefull finds them first
and not a player at the other end of the scale
 
I'm okay with SOME meta-gaming and not others.

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The kind I am okay with, simply because it is hard for the brain to do otherwise, is using what we know from past Elite games.

Example; In previous Elite games, that Thargoids were hexagonal, but the lore also covers that they are now gone.

Frontier know we know this.

So when ED rocks around, and we are introduced to a ruin of an alien wreck, and it is Hexagonal, my brain can't help but reach back and go ''Well, that's Thargoid then surely?'' and FD will know I would make this assumption. The assumption can be shown to be wrong in future, but for now I have no reason to assume it is wrong. I'm not able to 'roleplay' that I don't know this because my brain won't let me divide information like that.

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The kind I am NOT okay with is people diving into game files, though we can't stop them. I'm not okay with people leaking development video or pictures either, or leaking spoiler info from developers. Luckily those last few have not happened from FD so that's fine for now.

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Just my 2p on it all.

OK, time to be pedantic!
From first hand experience, albeit 30 years ago:
Thargoids were insectoidal creatures, larger than a man. http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Thargoids
Thargoid ships were octagonal (8 sides (plus top & bottom), not hexagonal which means 6 sides!) prism shaped, they released
Thargon drone ships that were fast, equipped with a powerful beam weapon & a devil to kill- you had to kill the parent ship, but if other ships were around they could take over control of the Thargons!

however I am unsure as to how much my memory may have been hex-edited by the Feds/Frontier/Imps since nowadays history seems to have become very confused!
 
OK, time to be pedantic!
From first hand experience, albeit 30 years ago:
Thargoids were insectoidal creatures, larger than a man. http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Thargoids
Thargoid ships were octagonal (8 sides (plus top & bottom), not hexagonal which means 6 sides!) prism shaped, they released
Thargon drone ships that were fast, equipped with a powerful beam weapon & a devil to kill- you had to kill the parent ship, but if other ships were around they could take over control of the Thargons!
metagamey though. Thargoids, should they exist in Elite Dangerous, might be large sea-slugs who fly about in giant space-crabs and deposit barnacles as a means of refuelling their ships. They are whatever Frontier say they are, not what other games and books have said they were.
 
I've not seen an attempt to get the best frames out of the David Braben interview #4 of the debris field, particularly in light of the crash discovery. I've made a crude animation here:


In my view, this is pretty clearly the same as the crash discovery, even to the dimple missing from one side of the octagonal "core" section, so I'm convinced this is the alien ship we saw alive and in action in the video (and it is a ship, not a ground vehicle or anything else).

I've put your animation on the Front Page, being it an almost-good-evidence that the wreckage could in fact be a ship.
+REP
 
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our alien race might be the realive of the scrin
http://cnc.wikia.com/wiki/Scrin

That could explain strange music that I hear sometimes...

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I've put your animation on the Front Page, being it an almost-good-evidence that the wreckage could in fact be a ship.
+REP

I think this is actually not related to the incident (as the nebula color in the bg implies it is 2.2) and seems more like a way from FD to tease us: this wreckage that now looks dead, it is something you will encounter flying in 2.2.
 
Hi guys, quick question, are there any known do's and dont's with an UP or is deploying and re-scooping them just glitchy? Lost the 3rd one in 2 days now (SRV re-scooping it from planet surface.. works 5 times then it doesn't appear in the cargo hold --- dropping it in orbit makes it instantly disappear) and it get's a bit tedious.
 
I think this is actually not related to the incident (as the nebula color in the bg implies it is 2.2) and seems more like a way from FD to tease us: this wreckage that now looks dead, it is something you will encounter flying in 2.2.

No one said it's related.
But it's the same ship with very few doubts.
Moreover:
If you look at the wreckage site closely, you will clearly see the signs of an impact of something that was flying before crashing.
Debris scattered along the line of the impact plus the high pile of rocks front left and right, but not rear along that line, in a arc shape, typical of an impact from the sky.
So, unless someone let an alien crab fall from the sky, it's a ship.
 
Newest tinfoil is that it's an affliction similar to that fungus that zombifies ants. Maybe even the mycoid virus, the name mycoid sounds derivative of myco, which is a term associated with fungus. Maybe that's what those wings/blades/leaves are; something that predates the Tharg technology, hijacks it. Maybe the rift is home to some hideous space born zombie thargoid fungal plague....like athletes foot on steroids lol

Funny you should mention that. I found a lot of Carbon-Ammonia life pkanets aroid Myoid area next to Eafots.

Its my theory this artefact originated from there and is a hybrid of Thargoid/Human life.

I think these planets are key to the rift mystery.

I may go back and start checking moons there to see if there any more of these dead artifacts.
 
Remember the UP spectrogram image?

http://i.imgur.com/Wfe67BQ.gif

As I understand it, we puzzled and puzzled and puzzled over this, with no joy. Then the free-floating UPs came along with their morse-type sounds to distract people away, followed by the exciting treasure hunt. Since then it's been lying, unloved and un-decoded, in the back of the Canonn store room.

Now things have settled down again I have some theorising and results to present. It may be completely wrong, or it may be the starting point to new discoveries. Hopefully, with the application of some science (this is where you come in), its secrets may finally be revealed. So here we go.......


I've always thought that the images at either end appeared to be two views of the same thing, seen from positions horizontally separated by a smallish angle.

Spectrogram with overlay

At first I thought it was a view of the galaxy map, but the UP already points us directly to a planet, Merope 5c, so why not start there? So I set out to explore its big obvious feature, the crater, to see if the views were showing a surface feature. After many, many hours and days of fruitless surveying with my long suffering friend Cmdr Frog's Friend's Evil Twin we were ready to give up. At that point I took a casual flight around the planet and back to the crater, coming to land on the crater rim looking in. There in front of me was the feature I'd been looking for :)

Right View:

From there I flew to the right to find the second view.

Left View:

The separation angle of the two views made me think of the two lines on the circle image, lower left corner. So I marked up a drawing and tried to overlay it onto a screenshot of the crater. Matching the circle to the whole crater didn't give good results with the viewing angles or the centre point, so I played with the scale of the circle, reducing it to try and get a match. The best result appeared to be about 60% or 3/5ths of the crater size. Is this what the |-- --| symbols under the circle mean? 3 out of five?

Crater with overlay

From there I wondered where the System/Spaceship diagram, to the left of the circle, could fit in?

System/Spaceship diagram with overlay

Is it showing a flight path leading to a crash/landing? What if the dots were craters or other landmarks? The arcs could be crater rims?
Again I tried overlaying it onto the screenshot at various positions and angles to see if there was a reasonable looking fit. The obvious one was to lay it along the radius line. It didn't fit any landmarks along the line but did in the opposite direction, looking in along the radius line.

So, there we have it. Is this just craziness or is it science? Hopefully some of you clever people can look this over and see if it makes sense.... or where I've gone hopelessly wrong :)
I've not managed to locate whatever this diagram may be pointing to, but the sun is up in the crater today and it's a good day for searching.

I've uploaded an SVG file (made in Inkscape) of all the images and drawings so anyone can play around with it. You can move, rotate, scale or position the various elements to see if you can produce a better result.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/57329698/Merope 5c Crater.zip

Enjoy [alien]

Craziness and science often go together!
good hunting!
(I have for a couple of weeks been of the opinion that there is either a crashed ship, or perhaps 5C is a hollow ship resembling a planet with an entrance to find, and the sonogram provides instructions to find this)
 
I did. To me it just looked like two separate 3D objects intersecting. Both ends of the 'wing' were sticking out. It did not look like a connection. Just poor placement of the objects.

Its deffo connected, the other leg has been blown off and shattered.

You can see the attachement like tendons connecting the leg to the base.
 
No one said it's related.

**Cough** **chuckles** **Cough**

UAs, UPs, and the alien incident are related. All of them were shown in the interviews' interferences.

It may have been the start, but remember that the debris in the 4th Braben interview is clearly in space, not on a surface.

hmmm.... MB said this is the end of the hunt, but obviously that doesn't mean the end of the mystery.

The better question is: What kind of incident took place there? We could assume the Kohl tried to save his buddy in the cobra from the reveal....

Don't make me search the whole forum again, I had to stop there, it is worse than looking for barnacles!
 
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