UAs, Barnacles & More Thread 6 - The Canonn

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SmallDicc

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Belthize said:
According to the semi-official timeline INRA defeated the Thargoids with the mycoid virus in 3193. Alliance/Thargoid peace was established in 3253.
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The timeline where I get the year 3151 can be found here: http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Chronicles_of_the_Milky_Way

The sources that support 3151 being the correct year the Thargoids were defeated are as follows:
Hughes D. (n/a). 'Elite: Far Colonies Network - 3: Theory'
(1995). Frontier: First Encounters journal number 0007. Frontier Developments.
(1995). Frontier: First Encounters journal number 0432. Frontier Developments.
(1995). Frontier: First Encounters journal number 0470. Frontier Developments.
(1995). Frontier: First Encounters journal number 0545. Frontier Developments.

The page where the timeline is found acknowledges the conflicting year of 3193, and has this to say on the matter:
There are conflicting dates given over the actual year that the Thargoids were defeated during the 3100's. David Hughes (www.hughesd.co.uk) and the FFE journal articles both claim 3151, whereas Dylan Smith (www.alioth.net) has a later date of 3193. As the official FFE game journals identify 3151 as the date that the Thargoids were eradicated [14.7], that is the date that has been used in the Chronicles.
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Atlas91

Atlas91
Han_Zen said:
I'm not sure about Azalea yet.

From Wikipedia: 'In addition to being renowned for its beauty, the azalea is also highly toxic—it contains andromedotoxins in both its leaves and nectar, including honey from the nectar.'

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So she's a spy preparing an invasion from Andromeda? Someone call the Thargoids, we need backup!
 

CMDR Corlas

CMDR Corlas
Han_Zen said:
I'm not sure about Azalea yet.

From Wikipedia: 'In addition to being renowned for its beauty, the azalea is also highly toxic—it contains andromedotoxins in both its leaves and nectar, including honey from the nectar.'

:)
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Not to mention that Halsey was in Azaleach just before going missing, and we turned in the exploration data to Azaleach Partnership.

I am grasping at straws here, I feel...

Has there been a Halsey bio on Galnet or anything? Any prior mention of a sister?
 

Jmanis

Jmanis
Han_Zen said:
Good theory. I like it.

And yes, the date holds according to the FFE journals: 'Pilots of INRA, the combined Federal and Imperial Naval galactic defence force have seen serious action for the first time since the eradication of the Thargoids in 3151 CE.'

That is the only official mention of the time of the event that I have ever found.
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There's only one thing that doesn't hold though, and would require us to go back in time to prove.

They (free-floating UAs) were only found in the 135-150ly shell after one of the patches (1.3 or 1.4, i forget).

Before that they were found closer to merope,possibly in a 50ly bubble, given occupied volumes and the meagre amount of finds that occurred before the shell was implemented in the subsequent patch.

It might still hold that they were just in the process of moving into that position at that time, but it feels like a clunky fit.
 

Han_Zen

Han_Zen
Jmanis said:
There's only one thing that doesn't hold though, and would require us to go back in time to prove.

They (free-floating UAs) were only found in the 135-150ly shell after one of the patches (1.3 or 1.4, i forget).

Before that they were found closer to merope,possibly in a 50ly bubble, given occupied volumes and the meagre amount of finds that occurred before the shell was implemented in the subsequent patch.

It might still hold that they were just in the process of moving into that position at that time, but it feels like a clunky fit.
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Back when UAs where found close to the Pleiades, they didn't 'point' and they only scaned for system data. They were probably seaching for a location. Once it (Merope) was found, they moved in possition to photgraph the 'scene of the crime'.

UAs now works as thousands of telescopes.

It sort of fits with the 'Thargoids are wondering what happened to their scouting party'.
 

Han_Zen

Han_Zen
CMDR Corlas said:
Not to mention that Halsey was in Azaleach just before going missing, and we turned in the exploration data to Azaleach Partnership.

I am grasping at straws here, I feel...

Has there been a Halsey bio on Galnet or anything? Any prior mention of a sister?
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It is an interesting connection. And no other mentions of Azalea, as far as I know.
 

Kurt Ambrose

Kurt Ambrose
On the topic of those "andromedotoxins", here's the wiki page on them. Read the part about "mad honey disease".
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grayanotoxin


Pliny was a naturalist and intellectual, as well as a naval commander. Strabo was a traveler, and cartographer of sorts.
These two both wrote about locals fending off the armies of "Xenophon" by poisoning his men with the honey. Apparently this specific genus is local to the "Black Sea". Also, the bit about the Romans being poisoned by special placed honeycombs on their route which were laced with the poison honey is gnarly, quite the sneaky tactical move.
All this talk of sisters and flowers and stars is.... Interesting.
 
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Han_Zen

Han_Zen
Kurt Ambrose said:
On the topic of those "andromedotoxins", here's the wiki page on them. Read the part about "mad honey disease".
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grayanotoxin


Pliny was a naturalist and intellectual, as well as a naval commander. Strabo was a traveler, and cartographer of sorts.
These two both wrote about locals fending off the armies of "Xenophon" by poisoning his men with the honey. Apparently this specific genus is local to the "Black Sea". Also, the bit about the Romans being poisoned by special placed honeycombs on their route which were laced with the poison honey is gnarly, quite the sneaky tactical move.
All this talk of sisters and flowers and stars is.... Interesting.
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And if you want more tinfoil on the 'shrub sisters', Jasmine means 'Gift from God' and the Jasmine flowers on the shrub, symbolisies 'a galaxy of white stars'.:D
 
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Jmanis

Jmanis
In tangential funny news, just had a cargo hatch failure when trying to dock at a station, lost four UAs inside it. Tried to play fetch, ended up nearly getting shot out of the sky with 11 UAs on board,,, would've wasted a good two hours of work!

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oh dear, that could mean next they'll be angry about what happened to their scouting party. Perhaps it's time to go on a camping trip to Beagle Point.
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I wouldn't worry too much. They'll just be after me... apparently I've become sloppy these days....

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Now I need to fetch another four... :(

Oh, and if anyone was wondering what carrying around 11 UAs while you hunt for another 4, and you then ship them to the target station does to your internals:
58% - Thrusters
99% - Shield Generator
43% - AFMU 1
61% - AFMU 2
98% - Plasma Accel 1
49% - Plasma Accel 2
41% - Beam Laser 1
97% - Beam Laser 2
64% - Beam Laser 3
68% - Beam Laser 4
86% - Power Distro
99% - FSD
97% - Cargo Hatch
98% - Life Support
0% - Cargo Scanner
0% - FSW Scanner
35% - Sensors
94% - Chaff
0% - Heatsink
100% - DSS
0% - Canopy
99% - PP
69% - ADS
IOYK
 
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bigity

bigity
Is it actually intended that 300 or so UAs can disable a station yet it takes 100k to repair that same station? I am hearing these numbers second hand mind, are they even accurate?
 

Jmanis

Jmanis
bigity said:
Is it actually intended that 300 or so UAs can disable a station yet it takes 100k to repair that same station? I am hearing these numbers second hand mind, are they even accurate?
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Neither of those figures are entirely accurate, but then again observations vary. I shipped 300 to a station and got no effect, I shipped 100 to another station and had that station fail a month later. Difference being I sold them in batches of 15-20 when for the 300-station, and one at a time to the 100 station, based off the theory of the transactional nature of influence effects in the BGS.

Meanwhile other groups (like the ALD group that bombed an Archon Delaine(?) station) claim figures over 600, while early station failures would've had quantities less of than 50 sold at them. So who knows RE: UAs?

RE: MAs, I don't really "do" that. The figure of 100k is probably based off the CG results, where 122k MAs were shipped. The station was cured before then though through another CG which I think was designed to get people shipping them to repair stations, which didn't happen. Bond Hub (Canonn base) was 'cured' with far less I think.

FWIW, gathering UAs is far more time-consuming and far more dangerous than gathering MAs. Having done both, you can gather MA's at 10 times the rate as you can UAs, with the added bonus that MAs won't irreparably one-shot your ship canopy when you have more than 15 in the hold, cutting down on your travel time. UAs are a random spawn that can take some time to spawn, while MAs can just be harvested with log off/log in. Throw in the toxic corrosion and pirates interdicting you who you can't fight back against because you have multiple system failures, and you have a very risky activity in hauling UAs.
 
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