UAs, Barnacles & More Thread 6 - The Canonn

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Well, I'm looking for barnacles. Vision1776 explicitly said he didn't find any barnacles, so I assume that's what he was looking for.

Mind you, I'm not sure what looking for "the creators" would even involve. And I honestly expect that to be gated content in some way (which I don't mind -- it's the nature of the beast, might as well learn to live with it).

I'll see how I have things and might join you and sunleader in the search.
 
I'll see how I have things and might join you and sunleader in the search.

T Tauri is a System Named because it exists in Reality.
So maybe its not part of the Nebulae and just there coincidently.

Albeit its also a Star with changing brightness in reality which might be part of a backround story.

Anyways. I think checking the Hind Nebulae Systems and the T Tauri System is worth a try.


I like the Triangle Theory and this Nebulae is just in the Center of this Triangle. So it warrants an search.
 
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T Tauri is a System Named because it exists in Reality.
So maybe its not part of the Nebulae and just there coincidently.

Albeit its also a Star with changing brightness in reality which might be part of a backround story.

Anyways. I think checking the Hind Nebulae Systems and the T Tauri System is worth a try.


I like the Triangle Theory and this Nebulae is just in the Center of this Triangle. So it warrants an search.

I've been in T Tauri quite a few times already, never found anything :(

That said, I don't believe in the triangle theory, finding barnacles in HIND may not prove or disprove this theory, and will not prove or disprove anything except that there are barnies in more than 3 nebulae, but it will be a good finding anyway!
 
Welp. When I get home from collage today im gonna head to about 3m LS out. So another 1m. If I dont find anything... Ill turn back. But Im not sure where to go from there.

What speed have you been SCing at? Someone said if you travel too fast either USS wont spawn or you'll pass them too quickly to notice (cant remember which, maybe both)
 
What speed have you been SCing at? Someone said if you travel too fast either USS wont spawn or you'll pass them too quickly to notice (cant remember which, maybe both)
If if is a static POI (and he is looking for a persistent one) you can just turn 180 and step back a little, it should be there.
 
People searching for the unknown probe, has anyone done any searching in icy asteroid belts? Didnt ice mining become a thing with the 2.1 update? I never have even gone into any myself, but aren't there some in Merope around the gas giant that 2A orbits? I'm sure if they were on planets or space they would of shown up by now surely. Maybe an asteroid smashed into the moon there and brought a barnacle seed with it? If anyone is in the area and doesn't mind giving them a check out I would appreciate it. You can have the credit if you find something but if you find a barnacle seed that is growable by players you better love and care for it or i will hunt you down haha
 
I've been in T Tauri quite a few times already, never found anything :(

That said, I don't believe in the triangle theory, finding barnacles in HIND may not prove or disprove this theory, and will not prove or disprove anything except that there are barnies in more than 3 nebulae, but it will be a good finding anyway!


Well the thing is
We talk about an alien thing apparently appearing Nebulae.
So a Nebulae right in between the current findings is suspucious.


If an Civilization spreads the first colonies will be the closest ones most similar to their homeworld.
So the possibility of a home system of an alien race can be expected in the center of their spread

Current spread we know is 3 nebulae and coincidently there is a nebulae right in the center between them. :)


Its worth a check :)
 
CMDR Kerevan here.

Found barnacles on new planets in Witch Head Sector LC-V C2-10:

Witch Head Sector LC-V C2-10 A 6

Witch Head Sector LC-V C2-10 B 2

Witch Head Sector LC-V C2-10 B 1

Slow down fella! Can't keep up :)
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Regarding the probe I think we'll find them in or near our worlds.. I imagine "they" will be probing stuff/areas they don't know rather than stuff/areas they do like Merope (if they're related).
 
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If if is a static POI (and he is looking for a persistent one) you can just turn 180 and step back a little, it should be there.

Even if it's something like the Voyager probes? ( except maybe it's a lost Thargoid/Paul/Generation ship?), do you have to travel at less than 300C (30C?) or something to see those?

the Voyager positions were calculated from their RL trajectory, speeds & launch dates as a basis for the search, but do we know (or can we speculate from lore, if anybody knows what that is/was after recent FD decisions) anything that could help us estimate the trajectory/ origin date of whatever this is? I think I remember that Merope was supposed to have been a thargoid battle site? If that still applies. Presumably it would have been leaving Merope so the start point is given (else we'd be looking in a different system entirely). What speed would it have been travelling at? Towards where? -Polaris? Sol? Hind nebula? LMC? Rift? That's 5 directions to search along- any others come to mind?

As a separate thought, but linked-incidentally I do like the hypothesis that the UAs are a weapon, looking for a ship to attack - that explains their ship scanning. Their payload being the fireflies that will attack the target internally, difficult to contain so what we see normally is leakage. When the UA expires it does so explosively- the payload delivery mechanism. So it could be INRA technology (think INRA supposedly developed original thargoid technology) looking for Thargoid ships, that explains the use of Morse ("fed blink") code. Barnacles could also be INRA technology to use the same fireflies to build MAs for technology improvement. Feds have now realised the UA shell is pointing at a Thargoid ship/base in Merope. Hence Feds now turning up to defend the barney & fight the threat. If its INRA then that explains why Empire aren't visible-they are also involved in INRA but cant turn up in support as that makes their relationship public. Still dont see why UAs would react to SAP8 though, unless that is Thargoid technology that is being partially recognised by the UA payload trigger mechanism.

edit: afterthought- the barneys could also be Thargoid response to create MAs to resist the fireflies. Perhaps the fireflies are supposed to represent mycoid virus?
 
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I still need help to Scout out the *Hind* Nebulae which is located right in the Center of the Triangle created by the three Nebulae were Barnacles were found.
There is a named System there *T Tauri* which has several moons with deep valleys similar too the ones in Merope.

Vision1776 spent a week there .... cut ....

Well, I'm looking for barnacles. Vision1776 explicitly said he didn't find any barnacles, so I assume that's what he was looking for.
Mind you, I'm not sure what looking for "the creators" would even involve. And I honestly expect that to be gated content in some way (which I don't mind -- it's the nature of the beast, might as well learn to live with it).

Also others. Watch the time stamp, a thread before ... This system is not so far and well visited ...
Frontier and other players can't expect adult CMDR's make the same big efforts again and again depending of what new "maintanance hidden buggy update" have passed the non existing/yielding approval process at FDEV ...
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/222049-UAs-Barnacles-amp-More-Thread-5-The-Canonn?p=3449068&viewfull=1#post3449068

One of my CMDR's was 2 day's in Eta Carina Nebulae (8000ly very,very similiar Pleiades) before the last "non point" update and have found untagged landable planets within 400Ls from sun (maybe new?). But mostly no USS and of course no Barnacles/UA's. We should make this at weekly Powerplay maintenance interval, grind the engineers and enjoy every "hourly Powerplay update" in Galnet ??? And where is this for one week announced "point update"??? All then goes again to "zero"? No thanks ...
Btw: the LMC seems to be a lot bigger and feels "within reach" when flying 8000-10000Ly in this direction ....

As so many pages are again filled with "new" CMDR questions, experience and therories I would like to submit a special thanks to Han_Zen for this great thought:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...6-The-Canonn?p=4084014&viewfull=1#post4084014
[ UAs set up their shell in the summer of 3301. Exactly 150 years after the Mycoid bombing. They are looking for signals dating from 3151-3166 ]
In fact we have this situation since begin of september previous year(start beta 2.0) and only found out the "T-ship" bug (morse) since then related to UA's.

Respect to all the last wonderfull Barnacle findings. For me it smells more depending on CMDR/graphic/instance/time frame combo then skill/luck to see/find them. Most (like me) see nothing befor 1Km also when you have the coordinates ...
Also a killer for a collective search.
I'm afraid if the day comes and someone post a "unknown probe" finding such (game engine?) limits hold on. My bet would go to an other "Anomaly detected". May be in NPC cargo before...

May the next thread source more ... 9200 and counting, Could not last long anymore.
Enjoy the ride!
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Where is my "lurker mode" button? Ahh here ... -++~<#.)]..
 
Still dont see why UAs would react to SAP8 though, unless that is Thargoid technology that is being partially recognised by the UA payload trigger mechanism.

Can anyone tell me if Sap8 cores are still in the game? I can't remember seeing a mission about them for a very long time. But the missions suggested that they contained some kind of encrypted data - who knows what, but perhaps the position of something barnicle or UA related?
 
People searching for the unknown probe, has anyone done any searching in icy asteroid belts? Didnt ice mining become a thing with the 2.1 update? I never have even gone into any myself, but aren't there some in Merope around the gas giant that 2A orbits? I'm sure if they were on planets or space they would of shown up by now surely. Maybe an asteroid smashed into the moon there and brought a barnacle seed with it? If anyone is in the area and doesn't mind giving them a check out I would appreciate it. You can have the credit if you find something but if you find a barnacle seed that is growable by players you better love and care for it or i will hunt you down haha

Ice rings would be a good place to hide something new- no value until now so rarely visited to date & probably never searched in detail. Good hypothesis!
 
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Nebulae can look like many things from different perspectives. This is my current theory. Not a conclusion. I have had several in game players tell me that the Pleiades Nebula looks like that. This isnt myself coming up with everything.

Look at the California Nebula
https://www.google.com/search?q=cal...ved=0ahUKEwiIh-uf0rnNAhUp3IMKHYrDAcgQ_AUIBigB

Look at the witch-head nebula:
https://www.google.com/search?q=cal...KHYrDAcgQ_AUIBigB#tbm=isch&q=with-head+nebula

Look at the Pleiades Nebula:
https://www.google.com/search?q=cal...MKHYrDAcgQ_AUIBigB#tbm=isch&q=Pleiades+nebula

Dont say that using the real life images of these nebulae is discredited because an artist could have been using them to create the barnacle's symbol.

Nebulae are space clouds, one can make them out to look like anything they imagine. You take your interpretation of them and create one symbol and you have the barnacle symbol. This is a theory not a conclusion and until someone finds a barnacle outside of these three nebulae I will continue with this theory.

1- That barnacles are only found in these three nebulae
2- That these three nebulae are depicted in the barnacle symbol as the three shapes.
3- That the origin of the barnacles resides in proximity to these three nebulae, most likely somewhere near the center of the triangle shape they form.

Why would they use a real-life image to base something on when they have in-game images they could use? Which of those pictures of the Pleiades do you imagine looks like the large blob in the symbol anyway? I honestly don't see any resemblance.

Your initial theory was that Barnard's Loop was one of the nebula. With the discovery of barnacles in the Witch Head nebula you've revised your theory to fit, and IMHO you've stretched the reasoning too far. It's understandable; people get attached to their theories and want to make them work. And I'm not even saying you're wrong, I'm just saying that I find it unconvincing given our current data. Frankly it was a lot more convincing when Barnard's Loop was the third nebula.

Personally I don't think we have enough data to really form a good theory yet. I am mindful of the principle that is often applied to the likelihood of alien life in the universe, that either life is unique to Earth or life is common throughout the universe and nothing in between. Both unique and common are justifiable, but it's a lot harder to make a plausible hypothesis to explain some small finite number of places with life. In ED, when barnacles were only known to be in the Pleiades that could well have been the only nebula with them. But now we have 3 nebulae and I think it's unlikely that only those three have them.
 
Can anyone tell me if Sap8 cores are still in the game? I can't remember seeing a mission about them for a very long time. But the missions suggested that they contained some kind of encrypted data - who knows what, but perhaps the position of something barnicle or UA related?

"SAP 8" not to find since 2.0. Trinkets of hidden Fortune, Hafnium, AI Relics are to find until 2.1.02 ...

And here the update (rant from me for a few minutes .... :) :
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/267701-Update-2-1-03-Incoming?p=4132617#post4132617
 
CMDR Kerevan here.

Found barnacles on new planets in Witch Head Sector LC-V C2-10:

Witch Head Sector LC-V C2-10 A 6

Witch Head Sector LC-V C2-10 B 2

Witch Head Sector LC-V C2-10 B 1

Added to the sheet at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...w02tyCGd7IFcfHpjYGeZL9GHQ/edit#gid=1094783116

It's clear that people now have the technique for finding them as given by the rate new Barnacle planets are being discovered.
There are 68 confirmed locations for Barnies across 3 nebulae. Of that 68, 27 are currently believed to be intact (subject to verification).

With this, I'm going to be stepping back from keeping this list actively maintained. It's partly because of the number of locations, and partly because even with Chopper, RedWizzard and Vaelel helping out, it's taking more and more time to keep up to date.
I've spoken with Chopper, and he will carry on ensuring that verifications and status updates get noted. If you visit a Barnacle, it would be great if you could put a comment on the entry to say that it's still the same or if it's changed. That way the list still retains use.
 
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