UAs, Barnacles & More Thread 6 - The Canonn

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Stillsober

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rizal72 said:
When did you find a Convoy carrying an UA? It even seems you found more than one:
can you be more precise on location and some details?
If I remember well, from the Timocani times, when UA could only be found in convoys, they are very rare even now.
Someone spotted them a couple times recently (System HIP 15609, perhaps that "someone" is you, then sorry), but not that many.
Thanks.
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There isn't many and this is the course of a few months.
The one I can name was in Maia I followed a type 9 to celaeno (I'm sure that's the name).
I know its a name of one of the 7sisters.

Then it just stopped in space weird.
Im assuming that this was probably UA destroying drives and stuff.

Then another again in Maia B1 that went to Merope and same again.

Strange or what.
 

Edd Jordan

Edd Jordan
rizal72 said:
As I've already said, the matter was already WIDELY discussed in the past, and when I say WIDELY, I mean it, included what you are pointing now, with dozens of pros and cons. No need to call our mythology, the hot blue stars in the Pleiades, are close and related to each other, no matter from where you are looking at them. No matter the stories you build on them. And no matter the race of who is watching them, alien or human. Seen that we do not know nothing about who made the UAs,
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Exactly like the marking on the Barnacles, could depict some celestial body (Nebulas, galaxies...) that could be meaningful for whoever built them, it could be the same for any marking on the UA, included the seven markings on its head.
They could be seven "things" that are very meaningful for whoever built them: 7 Planets, 7 Systems, 7 Stars, 7 of their Gods/Entities, 7 kinds of Biscuits...
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and why... that said, it's like any other theory on the table to discuss and have fun with.
Cheers.


Yeh Riz is back. o7 commander
 

rizal72

rizal72
Stillsober said:
There isn't many and this is the course of a few months.
The one I can name was in Maia I followed a type 9 to celaeno (I'm sure that's the name).
I know its a name of one of the 7sisters.

Then it just stopped in space weird.
Im assuming that this was probably UA destroying drives and stuff.

Then another again in Maia B1 that went to Merope and same again.

Strange or what.
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Yes, that's interesting indeed: and are you sure about what the T-9 was carrying? I mean the UA in its hold, I assume you've scanned it.
Do you remember if the well known comms chatter was present as well?
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Stillsober

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rizal72 said:
Yes, that's interesting indeed: and are you sure about what the T-9 was carrying? I mean the UA in its hold, I assume you've scanned it.
Do you remember if the well known comms chatter was present as well?
Thanks
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Yes it was the usual Comms Chatter
I didn't scan the hold as no cargo scanner I just stumbled across it.
I just took the comms chatter as they have it

I know never assume
Coz in short ass of u and me (ass u me.)

I didn't want to take it off them as I cant be doing with constant scooping it up again
But I thought what are they doing with it
Evidently nothing at all. Lol.
 

LordZoltan

LordZoltan
MadDogMurdock said:
The trouble is, that no matter how scientific the approach is - the gods of ED change the rules between patches.
UA behaviour has changed a number of times.

What tested negative before, might test positive after a patch and vice versa.
That's why there's always a significant Canonn effort to retest at least the positives after each patch.

Unfortunately, the list of negatives is extremely long and would be difficult to track.
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Very true.

Best thing to do is to look for any new mechanics that have been introduced into the game (e.g.: data scanner) and try those.

Another example, if there was a precedent for a special type of cargo giving access to a specific known system added to the game, then it might be worth trying permit locked regions with UA cargo again - but till then, no.

Equally, if there were known precedents for Cargo combinations, then it might be worth trying the cargo hold experiments again.

Also - don't forget: 'have you listened to them?' - if there was something we might reasonably take for granted that might lead us to a new mystery, I think we might just get a little non-spoilering nudge - because I'm sure MB and the team get more pleasure out of seeing us scratch our heads over something new than they do from us not noticing it in the first place ;)
 

Han_Zen

Han_Zen
ilo said:
sorry for being insistent, but any study about barnacles having a "hatch" process or when they are autonousmly (non players) reset has to be done in hidden barnacles. Turns out it became natural for people to shot them to get polonium without having to travel on the surface.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...ible-to-find?p=4093582&viewfull=1#post4093582
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I don't think the actions of a player in a different instance affect how you see the barnacle. Not absolutely sure about this though.
 

BluWolve

BluWolve
Dommarraa said:
Of course it hasn't been taken "everywhere", but it REALLY HAS been taken everywhere that had even the slightest hint that it might be related, and many totally dumb-donkey/tin-foil places too.
Polaris, Regor, All the Old World Systems, All the Available Permit Locked systems, All Nebular within about 5 Kylie, and many many other places, even Sag A*

Sorry, but I must have missed the actual experiment you wanted to try, I might be able to confirm or deny that it has been done.

To give you some reason for no list of experiments:
CMDR Tom writes "UA taken to California Nebula. Nothing interesting Observed"

Perfectly reasonable you might think until 2 days later when something else becomes relevant and CMDR Harry then does not know:
What system in Cal ?
Was it dropped from cargo ?
Where was it dropped ?
Did it point to Merope ?
What was the Morse ?
What ship was used ?
Was it armed ?
Did it still decay ?
What other cargo was in the hold ?
Did you try overheating ?
Did you try crashing into a planet ?
Did you check to see if any Dark Systems appeared on the Nav Panel ?

All these questions and many more have been asked about even the most simple experiment
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Of course it is tedious, but honestly when performing experiments you should take down every little detail, whether it seems important at the time or not.

Anyway I don't want to derail the thread with a debate on how to do science good, there are more important things to discuss :)

So theory is that the UA's are responsible for the barnacles. They make them grow by sending a type of seed signal into a particular type of star in a nebula. Merope lights up a nebula, so does Maia. There is a star named Xi Persei (not sure what its called in game, has a few designations in real life), "The shoulder of the Pleaides" that does the same to California nebula.

The thing that gets me though is why do the UA's only point towards Merope? If the theory is correct, then the UA's should point to the closest star of the type it needs. So I wondered if there were some requirement that had to be filled, and seeing as how the UA's also scan our ships maybe it has something to do with that.

Im sure every type of ship has been tried, and every commodity, and a lot of locations. But has someone gone to one of these other stars that are the main source for a nebulas' luminosity with an UA and let it scan them whilst having a meta alloy in the hold? It's the only item I can think of that has an interaction with the UA.
 

Stillsober

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LordZoltan said:
Very true.

Best thing to do is to look for any new mechanics that have been introduced into the game (e.g.: data scanner) and try those.

Another example, if there was a precedent for a special type of cargo giving access to a specific known system added to the game, then it might be worth trying permit locked regions with UA cargo again - but till then, no.

Equally, if there were known precedents for Cargo combinations, then it might be worth trying the cargo hold experiments again.

Also - don't forget: 'have you listened to them?' - if there was something we might reasonably take for granted that might lead us to a new mystery, I think we might just get a little non-spoilering nudge - because I'm sure MB and the team get more pleasure out of seeing us scratch our heads over something new than they do from us not noticing it in the first place ;)
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Just confirm MB stated yesterday that there is currently no way to access permit locked areas.
I think we need to look down another path.

How was the first barnacle found does anyone know.
Was someone following a particular theory or was it pure luck.
 

ilo

ilo
BluWolve said:
Im sure every type of ship has been tried, and every commodity, and a lot of locations. But has someone gone to one of these other stars that are the main source for a nebulas' luminosity with an UA and let it scan them whilst having a meta alloy in the hold? It's the only item I can think of that has an interaction with the UA.
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You really need to come back and try.
 

ilo

ilo
BluWolve said:
Anyway I don't want to derail the thread with a debate on how to do science good, there are more important things to discuss :)
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Are you meaning past science was not good?

BluWolve said:
So theory is that the UA's are responsible for the barnacles. They make them grow by sending a type of seed signal into a particular type of star in a nebula. Merope lights up a nebula, so does Maia. There is a star named Xi Persei (not sure what its called in game, has a few designations in real life), "The shoulder of the Pleaides" that does the same to California nebula.
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Oh, my bad.. this still makes sense.

BluWolve said:
The thing that gets me though is why do the UA's only point towards Merope? If the theory is correct, then the UA's should point to the closest star of the type it needs. So I wondered if there were some requirement that had to be filled, and seeing as how the UA's also scan our ships maybe it has something to do with that.
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In the last two weeks it has been repeated at least 10 times: they might be related, but at least not by the meaning of UAs pointing to Merope because of the barnacles.
 
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BluWolve

BluWolve
ilo said:
In the last two weeks it has been repeated at least 10 times: they might be related, but at least not by the meaning of UAs pointing to Merope because of the barnacles.
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I think you are confusing what I am saying. The UA does not point to the star because of the barnacles, the barnacles show up because the UA points to the star.
 
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Han_Zen

Han_Zen
BluWolve said:
So theory is that the UA's are responsible for the barnacles. They make them grow by sending a type of seed signal into a particular type of star in a nebula. Merope lights up a nebula, so does Maia. There is a star named Xi Persei (not sure what its called in game, has a few designations in real life), "The shoulder of the Pleaides" that does the same to California nebula.

The thing that gets me though is why do the UA's only point towards Merope? If the theory is correct, then the UA's should point to the closest star of the type it needs. So I wondered if there were some requirement that had to be filled, and seeing as how the UA's also scan our ships maybe it has something to do with that.
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I've been to XI Persei or Menkib, as it's called in game. The system has no planets, if I remember it correctly. I didn't bring any MA, cause we hadn't found them yet. I didn't bring an UA either. I was looking for one.:)
 

ilo

ilo
BluWolve said:
I think you are confusing what I am saying. The UA does not point to the star because of the barnacles, the barnacles show up because the UA points to the star.
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To validate that theory your best chance is to go to California Nebula and find an UA shell, much better than doing any experiment in any other blue star I guess.
 

DeadMeatGF

DeadMeatGF
Dommarraa said:
Summary of previous experiments (pre 2.1) :
UA have been taken everywhere
UA have been in Hold with ALL other items
UA have been dropped into space before and after ALL other items
UA and MA have been mixed, matched, swapped, combined, on planet, off planet, near barnacles of all states, not near barnacles of all states

In none of the experiments did anything occur that is not expected

We did try and have a Wiki to record experiments but it failed for many reasons, the main one being that most people are not scientists and therefore conduct and document their experiments really really poorly.
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Anyone dropped a bunch of UAs around a nav beacon to see if they react to the communications being broadcast?
 

BluWolve

BluWolve
ilo said:
To validate that theory your best chance is to go to California Nebula and find an UA shell, much better than doing any experiment in any other blue star I guess.
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Not necessarily. The UA shell found originally could have just been the beginning, what was released into the game to get us started on the mystery. It's potentially up to us now to spread the barnacles around.
 
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