Understanding the Negative Feedback

I Agree everyone has the right to complain etc... I know I have done it also, but in the end I still do like the game and the direction it's going, yes I know it was / still is Beta and on going development,
the biggest issue I have is the lack of communication from Frontier, The problem here is that "perception" is what most people consider reality. (My self included) and this is where the lack of communication compounds the problem.
 
We talking about this forum or other sites?
Other sites is from forum members complaining here and being banned.
Guess they took it upon them selves to do as much damage as possible to FD and ED as a way of revenge?
I personally believe it's better to keep your enemies close, that way they don't wander off shooting from the hip.
There have been some utterly devastating negative reviews.
Who knows how many potential customers turned away?
One angry person, with the time and trollish dedication could potentially cost FD $1000 in sales.
 
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when I spent my 40€ in the game I previously researched about the state of the game. I bought the merenary edition because I learnt too late about its existance. And I knew then that the game was going to be unfinished at release, but I didn´t mind, as I don´t so mind now, because of the promise of what it will be in the future. I agree with many comments about the lack of content, but I also am enjoying the game as it is stable, fun to flight and extremely beautiful. This means playable, for me at least.
With this in place I can simply trust that the engine allows or the inclusion of new content, missions and player comms improvement and mp features as wings. This shouldn´t be that difficult, but who am I to say it, if I don´t know a word about programing.
So, to all the people that complain, please be patient. Keep in mind that FD is a small company with a limited budget and there´s only a limited number of people to work on improving the game, so it will take time. In the meantime, donñ´t be rude and make constructive, logical and well reasoned criticism and wait for the results.

I for myself am very interested in watching the game´s development. It´s difficult to be patient cause one would like to see the game as it will be in the future, but remember: it´s just a ride
 
How about my right to get fed up with regurgitating the same stuff over and over again and stating this?

How about my right to state I still have fun in this game without being told I am talking nonsense?

How about my right to not want to have 4-5 threads all complaining about the same thing, because every one feels their own complaint is a special snowflake that has to be admired individually.

There is so much to be rightfully vocal about. I would never tell anyone off who has a genuine complaint. But thread #53 about "mile wide, inch deep" ticks me off. And I will be vocal about being ticked off. I have that right you see :)

I appreciate your right to vocalize your right to have rights on a forum where you have no rights. Is that right? Right...
 
How about my right to get fed up with regurgitating the same stuff over and over again and stating this?

How about my right to state I still have fun in this game without being told I am talking nonsense?

How about my right to not want to have 4-5 threads all complaining about the same thing, because every one feels their own complaint is a special snowflake that has to be admired individually.

There is so much to be rightfully vocal about. I would never tell anyone off who has a genuine complaint. But thread #53 about "mile wide, inch deep" ticks me off. And I will be vocal about being ticked off. I have that right you see :)

Well look on the bright side?
The same complaints must mean new customers?
More money for FD to feed the hamsters.
 
How about my right to get fed up with regurgitating the same stuff over and over again and stating this?How about my right to state I still have fun in this game without being told I am talking nonsense?How about my right to not want to have 4-5 threads all complaining about the same thing, because every one feels their own complaint is a special snowflake that has to be admired individually.There is so much to be rightfully vocal about. I would never tell anyone off who has a genuine complaint. But thread #53 about "mile wide, inch deep" ticks me off. And I will be vocal about being ticked off. I have that right you see :)
Explain where I said you didn't have a right? Though my best advice is if you are unable to understand the negative posts (the point of this thread is an attempt to address people such as yourself whom do not seem to understand why there should be any negative feedback), simply don't read those threads?
 
How about my right to get fed up with regurgitating the same stuff over and over again and stating this?

How about my right to state I still have fun in this game without being told I am talking nonsense?

You shouldn't argue with people and cry foul when they argue back. That's weak. You indulge in nonsense yourself from time to time so don't throw stones. :)

Let's be real here, it's barely even a game. It's fine to still enjoy it but getting angry at people pointing out the obvious is just silly.
 
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As we all are very well aware... there are a lot of people posting negative threads about ED.... Let me try and explain why I believe that is. But first let me explain what it is not... It is NOT hating for hating sake.... It is not People don't like Elite.... It is Not people want to play other games.... It is not they don't know how to play.... It is NOT people don't have imagination.... What these posts are however, are written by people whom Love the Elite universe and feel they have been let down severely by the lack of game. Yes they may be in awe of the Galaxy simulation... but the game is missing. These people including myself feel duped into buying a game at £40 that was not delivered. And we have every right to be vocal about it!

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I strongly disagree with one of your statements here: "What these posts are however, are written by people whom Love the Elite universe and feel they have been let down severely by the lack of game."

I think that anyone who played Elite and Frontier knew exactly what to expect from this game. It's almost identical to Frontier but with better graphics and other people. That's pretty much exactly what I expected and I'm happy with it and once they include the ability to land on planets I'll be even happier. What exactly did you expect?
 
Explain where I said you didn't have a right? Though my best advice is if you are unable to understand the negative posts (the point of this thread is an attempt to address people such as yourself whom do not seem to understand why there should be any negative feedback), simply don't read those threads?

Did you read the part where I said you were just spinning your wheels though?
 
Sure you do buddy but keep in mind that theres an other side enjoying the game and they're likely a silent majority.

We do not know that do we? It could be a silent majority are getting bored with the gameplay. We do not actually know.
Perhaps FD have some indication on play stats, but I do not think we know either way.

Some are definately rude. Other posts people are polite enough and just saying it how they see it. And some would defend FD throwing cute little kittens into a fire. All sorts on this forum that is a fact.
 
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I appreciate your right to vocalize your right to have rights on a forum where you have no rights. Is that right? Right...
Hahahaha This reminded me so much of this... [video=youtube;R79yYo2aOZs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R79yYo2aOZs[/video]
 
TL;DRI strongly disagree with one of your statements here: "What these posts are however, are written by people whom Love the Elite universe and feel they have been let down severely by the lack of game."I think that anyone who played Elite and Frontier knew exactly what to expect from this game. It's almost identical to Frontier but with better graphics and other people. That's pretty much exactly what I expected and I'm happy with it and once they include the ability to land on planets I'll be even happier. What exactly did you expect?
You would be very wrong there on my count. I've been playing games since the late 70's... played to death all Elite games and I expected to get a game on release... not the bare bones with the promise of a game later. I think perhaps elite should have been released as early access or certainly more information about the state of things clearly written on the screen before you can purchase. Perhaps that way there cannot be any misunderstanding about what to expect from ED?
 
I just wanted to point out there are those with valid criticism who I welcome to post here. And then there are others.

Others who luckily just edited his post ;)

I moved one sentence from the end to the beginning, just sounded better.

Another swing and a miss from Ziggy.

All joking aside, you really do have quite the double standard going on in regards to what makes you angry lol.
 
Different does not equate to more content. I am not stating the FE2 didn't have bugs, all that played it knew that it did... but there is also a difference between buggy content and very little content. I might add that in-game chat is not functioning... and if you think you can earn your credits in exploring, you have a very low expectation on what your bank balance should read after the number of hours you played.

Ah! You like your content buggy... I get the feeling you are just being silly for the sake of it here.

In-game chat works fine, I chatted with dozens of players so far, no problem.

Credits for exploration is a nice extra (bought me an extra Viper) but you must travel off the beaten tracks.

I have no expectations on what my bank balance "should" be after the number of hours I have played... I know I had fun sightseeing the Galaxy, getting into fights with pirates, gettting interdicted, chatting, bounty hunting, smuggling, seeing the famous Griefers in Lave Station with my own eyes, etc. etc. You see, that is the whole point of the game: make our own content.
 
As we all are very well aware... there are a lot of people posting negative threads about ED.... Let me try and explain why I believe that is. But first let me explain what it is not... It is NOT hating for hating sake.... It is not People don't like Elite.... It is Not people want to play other games.... It is not they don't know how to play.... It is NOT people don't have imagination.... What these posts are however, are written by people whom Love the Elite universe and feel they have been let down severely by the lack of game. Yes they may be in awe of the Galaxy simulation... but the game is missing. These people including myself feel duped into buying a game at £40 that was not delivered. And we have every right to be vocal about it!

My personal preference, would that I had a problem with the game, would be to sod off and come back when it's more fleshed out.
I don't understand why someone can't do this, really I don't. I've done it with plenty of games; hell, I waited over a year for Sword of the Stars II to come right (kind of, LOL). No biggy. I vented my frustration (mostly to friends) of how they buggered up the game, then I just moved on with my life and played other things. It's not like we're short on choice of games, lol.
Yes, I know you want to play now and you want the game you paid for, but ... well, tough. You didn't get it and you've likely passed your 14 day return policy so you're only option is to wait. Yes, it's not nice. Yes, you still have the right to sulk and moan and cry; but it won't get anything done faster, it won't make you feel better (it'll likely just have the opposite effect) so ultimately, it's pointless and it pollutes the forums.

We get it, you're not happy and that's fine! We understand! Really, we do. You have EVERY right not to be, but, if you insist on doing it, why not just do it on ONE thread... why this consistent need to post new threads? Is it narcissism? Laziness? Every single person who has an issue always posts a new thread and they're always the same drivel... want it now, dead game, empty, nothing to do, want my money back, wasted my money, pointless, lifeless: boring..boring..boring.. :/

I have no problem with constructive criticism; I encourage it; I do have a problem with negative, inane, non-helpful threads about the same fluff over and over and over again from people who are simply moaning, and whining and acting as if FD have offered them not only personal insult, but done it deliberately. One person even went so far as to accuse them of fraud; that they deliberately misled players just to make some quick cash. On a public forum, that's considered to be defamation (in my country anyway). It's not constructive, it's not helpful.

Suggestion to Mods: Please create a thread to merge these types of threads; perhaps it'll encourage people to post in one place. You can call it "I can't stop crying, because.." or something. :p
Disclaimer: That was a joke. Don't call it "I can't stop crying, because..." >_>
 
You would be very wrong there on my count. I've been playing games since the late 70's... played to death all Elite games and I expected to get a game on release... not the bare bones with the promise of a game later. I think perhaps elite should have been released as early access or certainly more information about the state of things clearly written on the screen before you can purchase. Perhaps that way there cannot be any misunderstanding about what to expect from ED?

I'll ask you again. What was it you expected?

I've been playing games since my local pub got a Pong machine. I've played every version of Elite to death. I knew what to expect from this game so why do your expectations differ so much from mine?
 
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