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Yeah, checking over all the current and previous records would be a pain. Poor book-keepers...

Slightly offtopic, but I'd actually like to have main sequence stars in separate categories from giants in the book, considering that the game actually differentiates between them (henceforth making it possible for us to rely on the line drawn by the game, not having to draw a line ourselves) --- however then we would be struggling with for example bugged red giant stars, whose stats are those of regular red dwarfs, but get the red giant description for unknown reasons.

I suppose it all boils down to FD continuing to fix the system map description errors in the end.

I'll volunteer for checking all the F-Type star records to see if they are F-Type Star Super giants in the description. Should take me 30 mins max with some google site searches... :)
But will wait for word from the Keepers first.

I like the super giants as separate category. Mainly because some supergiants are smaller than the biggest standard stars... always found that odd
 
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that out of the way, back to the f/g confused super giants.

None of you really have to go anywhere and visit potential f/g confused stars yourself.

I am doing it and bringing the evidence, so y'all don't have to :)


What should happen though is that a decision is made. If I am right, and G-Type super giants have a description of F-Type super giants by error.
That would on the one hand mean. Some stars are eligible under the G-Type category. Which are now not. Which is the smaller of the issues.

The bigger one would be. Some F-Star records based on F-star super giant descriptions might actually be G-Type ones. And exisiting records would have to be checked
against the galaxy map type description.

And future F/G super giant submissions would need to include a galaxy map screenshot.


I think I am pretty done with running all over collecting evidence. Found 2 more yesterday. Another F/G confused super giant. And a F/F unconfused super giant. The last
one is important for "color" reasons.


So let me present my findings that are spread out over many posts all here in one place:

Here's the list of f/g confused super giants. For all six supergiants, the galaxy map says g-type. the system map says f-type super giant:


if I might make your retina pay special attention to the color of each and every one of those stars in the system map. The well known by most of us G-type yellow-orangy color.


And here's the f/f unconfused super giant. where galaxy map and system map both say type F:


again, put your retinas focus on system map coloring of the super giant. The well known white-yellowish scheme we all recognize as F-type.


I can only come to one conclusion. description of g-type super giants is wrong in the system map and says f-type super giant instead. Result of that is some f-type records might be wrong....

I want to get back to civilised space for 1.2 and turn in my 1700 systems explored and hope it will be sufficient for pioneer. And hop in a vulture and fdl and give them a spin around combat zones.
I kinda like equilibrium among my ranks and going from dangerous to deadly would feel balanced with the pioneer from ranger ;-)

Anyway. I might pick up some more f/g, f/f super giants if I happen to be close by. But my zipping all over the place to collect them days are definitely over. ;-)

fine case you make, my mk1 eyeball agrees with your findings. We will go with this conclusion!:D

I'll volunteer for checking all the F-Type star records to see if they are F-Type Star Super giants in the description. Should take me 30 mins max with some google site searches... :)
But will wait for word from the Keepers first.

I like the super giants as separate category. Mainly because some supergiants are smaller than the biggest standard stars... always found that odd

thanks that would be a great help, the record department staff are currently very busy with the next stage of this project and with real life stuff, so any help is very much appreciated :D
 
LARGEST T-TYPE
XEEHAEI ST-U B8-0 C WITH A SOLAR RADIUS OF 0.2580 cmdr MAGNUS ROTTCODD

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SYSTEM WITH THE MOST CLASS IV GAS GIANTS
2MASS J18190352-1641055 WITH 5 CLASS IV GAS GIANTS
LORD ZAPAN
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... And future F/G super giant submissions would need to include a galaxy map screenshot.
Nice to see you have been illuminated - would you be now more receptive to the previously mentioned idea that we shouldn't base so strongly on descriptions?

Would your answer to:
But my point is it should be a general rule that an evidence should be clear - such unclear descriptions are currently not only in case of C-type but some others: eg. unclear description of at least one type of white dwarfs (DC, IIRC) and at least one type of giants (M-type, IIRC).
be different now?
 
I'm curious - Is it possible to have a category for 'furthest reachable star directly north of Sol'? Because I found it - Our 'true' North Star - Wregoe TV-L C24-0 :) It's over 1200 LY north of Sol, and less than 1 LY from our ancestral home on the other axes! In fact, it's the furthest 'north' by far of any star within 1 LY. I was first there, as evidenced by these pics. Kinda proud of myself, as the jump to get there was a long one, and it's in a pretty isolated pocket of space, one that's only reachable from a certain number of points via suitably-equipped Asps and Anacondas, so at the very least, I just wanted to tell somebody, lol :p


Anyways, here are the pics:

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And this is the view from 'up there' :)

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Enjoy!
 
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Nice to see you have been illuminated - would you be now more receptive to the previously mentioned idea that we shouldn't base so strongly on descriptions?

Would your answer to:

be different now?


I still disagree with the C-types. Afaik there are 3 C-type stars in the record books. And there are the same three types in the descriptions. You have a clear one to one match. So additional info in the form of a galaxy map screenshot are not required. I don't really see the issue with the White Dwarfs either. Seeing we only have one White Dwarf Category. I guess I stumbled onto this record book to late to be aware of what the issue with the M-type, IIRC description is. Or it was part of a few posts I didn't read since partaking in this effort.

In both cases, unless I miss something (quite possible, my Asp has had limited exposure to the radiation patterns of both any C-type Stars, as well as White Dwarfs), the description in the system map uniquely identifies which category in the books the record applies to. So no reason imo to make everybody make and submit even more screenshots.

The case of the F/G confused super giants is different as the system map description does not uniquely identify which category in the record book the record applies to. If one takes into consideration the color of the star. System map would be sufficient too. As all galaxy map G-types have the orange-yellow scheme. But tbh. I don't trust colors on computers and the internet too much ;-)


Anyway. Quite possible there is something I am missing even about C-types and White Dwarfs. I love being convinced otherwise... :)


Back to F records. Should have time tonite to check them real quick.

And totally off-topic. On the upside of yesterday was. Made it home savely into a station with my 1700 systems.

On the downside: First a PSA to others, don't forget to turn on your shield again after turning it off to minimize heat to get to a scan real close to a star done. Your first interdiction will be a bit of a rude awakeninge. Plus I encountered two systems with black holes with exactly 35 objects each. In one day. I don't think I have counted that many times to 35 in a day. And hope I never shall again! ;-)
 
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From 1.2 patch notes:

"Add a special text string for stars which are less than 1 million years old, rather than displaying '0 million years'"

We might need to revise our 0 YEARS MANY :)

Another thing:
"Avoid mapping rocky ice worlds as water worlds"

...we may need to re-check all current water world records whether they are still water worlds or have become rocky ice worlds instead? Or what do you guys think this line means?
 
From 1.2 patch notes:

"Add a special text string for stars which are less than 1 million years old, rather than displaying '0 million years'"

We might need to revise our 0 YEARS MANY :)

Another thing:
"Avoid mapping rocky ice worlds as water worlds"

...we may need to re-check all current water world records whether they are still water worlds or have become rocky ice worlds instead? Or what do you guys think this line means?

I thout it refers to rocky ice worlds sometimes using the graphics of water worlds. But your interpretation is just as likely.
 
LARGEST and Heaviest F-TYPE STAR X-CARINAE https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=50952&p=1738935&viewfull=1#post1738935 F-type supergiant. Needs confirmation galaxy map screenie.


SMALLEST F-TYPE STAR FLYIEDGUE NB-X D1-6 https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=50952&p=1780522&viewfull=1#post1780522 Class F star: Clean


LIGHTEST F-TYPE STAR BETA DORADUS https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=50952&p=1812172&viewfull=1#post1812172 F-type Supergiant. Needs confirmation galaxy map screenie.



HOTTEST F-TYPE STAR THETA-1 CRUCIS https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=50952&p=1668863&viewfull=1#post1668863 Class F star: Clean


COLDEST and OLDEST F-TYPE STAR TYC 5126-4042-1 https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=50952&p=1833169&viewfull=1#post1833169 f-type supergiant. Needs confirmation galaxy map screenie


YOUNGEST F-TYPE STAR EOCK PRAU KB-X D1-1 https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=50952&p=1858353&viewfull=1#post1858353 F-type star: clean


F-TYPE STAR WITH THE MOST BODIES EIDAILLS LD-S D4-17 https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=50952&p=1816935&viewfull=1#post1816935 F-type star : clean


F-TYPE STAR WITH THE DEEPEST NESTING GLIESE 2026 ABC 1 & 2 https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=50952&p=1737614&viewfull=1#post1737614 F-type star : clean


SYSTEM WITH THE MOST F-TYPE STARS SYNUEFAI PY-G d11-22 https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=50952&p=1598703&viewfull=1#post1598703 https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=50952&p=1598703&viewfull=1#post1598703 Debatable. Only screenshot of one star, but color of second seems rather conclusive.


CLOSEST F-TYPE STAR TO SOL DUAMTA AT 9.88LY says from Archive.... can't find via google... check ingame?


CLOSEST F-TYPE STAR TO HUMAN COLONY CEGREETH https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=50952&p=1668860&viewfull=1#post1668860 screenshot only shows the station description, not star description. Looks very F-typey yellowwhite.


CLOSEST F-TYPE STAR TO SAGITTARIUS A* STUEMEAE FG-Y D8248 https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=50952&p=1835116&viewfull=1#post1835116 F-type star : clean


FURTHEST F-TYPE STAR FROM SAGITTARIUS A*GLIESE 2026 ABC 2 https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=50952&p=1737614&viewfull=1#post1737614 F-type star : clean


all those F-type supergiants look very G-typey to me from the colors....
 
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Nice to see you have been illuminated - would you be now more receptive to the previously mentioned idea that we shouldn't base so strongly on descriptions?

Would your answer to:

be different now?
Hi ender long time on see, no I haven't joined the illuminati yet ...sorry bad joke :p
I don't think so, I still don't see a bug in the description for carbon stars please enlighten us if you know of one. we don't currently differentiate between white dwarfs but when we do any unclear entries will need clear evidence and the m giant bug (I think your referring to the bug in the description which doesn't state the star class) the few records that were posted did included galmap I think. we are currently working on the next stage of this project which involves us going over everything so hopefully we will see any mistakes in the current records
I'm curious - Is it possible to have a category for 'furthest reachable star directly north of Sol'? Because I found it - Our 'true' North Star - Wregoe TV-L C24-0 :) It's over 1200 LY north of Sol, and less than 1 LY from our ancestral home on the other axes! In fact, it's the furthest 'north' by far of any star within 1 LY. I was first there, as evidenced by these pics. Kinda proud of myself, as the jump to get there was a long one, and it's in a pretty isolated pocket of space, one that's only reachable from a certain number of points via suitably-equipped Asps and Anacondas, so at the very least, I just wanted to tell somebody, lol :p


Anyways, here are the pics:




And this is the view from 'up there' :)



Enjoy!

nice find, always happy to see these kind of posts on this thread. I don't think we can add that as a record but how about a new category highest/lowest visited system from the galatic plane, is it called that?

From 1.2 patch notes:

"Add a special text string for stars which are less than 1 million years old, rather than displaying '0 million years'"

We might need to revise our 0 YEARS MANY :)

Another thing:
"Avoid mapping rocky ice worlds as water worlds"

...we may need to re-check all current water world records whether they are still water worlds or have become rocky ice worlds instead? Or what do you guys think this line means?
Very nice looking forward to all those new youngest records :D
maybe we could petition FD to add a few decimal places for some of the values currently shown as 0
LARGEST and Heaviest F-TYPE STAR X-CARINAE https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=50952&p=1738935&viewfull=1#post1738935 F-type supergiant. Needs confirmation galaxy map screenie.


SMALLEST F-TYPE STAR FLYIEDGUE NB-X D1-6 https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=50952&p=1780522&viewfull=1#post1780522 Class F star: Clean


LIGHTEST F-TYPE STAR BETA DORADUS https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=50952&p=1812172&viewfull=1#post1812172 F-type Supergiant. Needs confirmation galaxy map screenie.



HOTTEST F-TYPE STAR THETA-1 CRUCIS https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=50952&p=1668863&viewfull=1#post1668863 Class F star: Clean


COLDEST and OLDEST F-TYPE STAR TYC 5126-4042-1 https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=50952&p=1833169&viewfull=1#post1833169 f-type supergiant. Needs confirmation galaxy map screenie


YOUNGEST F-TYPE STAR EOCK PRAU KB-X D1-1 https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=50952&p=1858353&viewfull=1#post1858353 F-type star: clean


F-TYPE STAR WITH THE MOST BODIES EIDAILLS LD-S D4-17 https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=50952&p=1816935&viewfull=1#post1816935 F-type star : clean


F-TYPE STAR WITH THE DEEPEST NESTING GLIESE 2026 ABC 1 & 2 https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=50952&p=1737614&viewfull=1#post1737614 F-type star : clean


SYSTEM WITH THE MOST F-TYPE STARS SYNUEFAI PY-G d11-22 https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=50952&p=1598703&viewfull=1#post1598703 https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=50952&p=1598703&viewfull=1#post1598703 Debatable. Only screenshot of one star, but color of second seems rather conclusive.


CLOSEST F-TYPE STAR TO SOL DUAMTA AT 9.88LY says from Archive.... can't find via google... check ingame?


CLOSEST F-TYPE STAR TO HUMAN COLONY CEGREETH https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=50952&p=1668860&viewfull=1#post1668860 screenshot only shows the station description, not star description. Looks very F-typey yellowwhite.


CLOSEST F-TYPE STAR TO SAGITTARIUS A* STUEMEAE FG-Y D8248 https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=50952&p=1835116&viewfull=1#post1835116 F-type star : clean


FURTHEST F-TYPE STAR FROM SAGITTARIUS A*GLIESE 2026 ABC 2 https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=50952&p=1737614&viewfull=1#post1737614 F-type star : clean


all those F-type supergiants look very G-typey to me from the colors....

thanks, great work will look into these as soon as I have a bit of time
 
A new Wolf-Rayet record!

SMALLEST WOLF-RAYET STAR
NUEKAU AA-A H42 D at 3.1238 Solar Radius
Discovered by CMDR Apocryphic

YOUNGEST WOLF-RAYET STAR
NUEKAU AA-A H42 A, C, and D tie the record at 0 Million Years
Discovered by CMDR Apocryphic

WOLF-RAYET STAR WITH THE DEEPEST NESTING
NUEKAU AA-A H42 D at 2nd Tier
Discovered by CMDR Apocryphic

Do I understand tiering correctly, with A and B at 0th Tier, C at 1st Tier, and D at 2nd Tier? I'm uncertain if the stacked barycentric orbits count as a single tier, or if this refers to nested orbits under the star?


-- Edit, more about tiering.

After further consideration, I thought the tier would actually determined by the name, so <System> D is first tier like A, B, and C, while A 1 is tier 2, A 1 A is tier 3, and so on.

However, then I found a reference to your early post, which made me think this is actually a 3rd tier star, with the A-B orbit at tier 1, the AB-C orbit at tier 2, and the ABC-D orbit at tier 3. However, another post showing orbits to the right is the same as above, but is unclear on nested barycentric orbits. After this, I kept reading and came to the conclusion that these orbits don't count, and I should rely on the naming convention for tier determinations.

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New C-N and MS type records!

OLDEST C-N TYPE STAR
GRAEA HYPA YN-T D3-29 at 14,063 million years.
Discovered by CMDR Apocryphic

SMALLEST C-N TYPE STAR
GRAEA HYPA YN-T D3-29 ties the record at 29.1427 Solar Radius
Discovered by CMDR Apocryphic

LIGHTEST C-N TYPE STAR
GRAEA HYPA YN-T D3-29 ties the record at 0.9336 Solar Masses
Discovered by CMDR Apocryphic


Edit - Forget this one and look down to a far more impressive CN5 IIIB star in post #2021!

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LARGEST MS-TYPE STAR
NUEKAU CG-O D6-214 at 34.8455 Solar Radius
Discovered by CMDR Apocryphic

HEAVIEST MS-TYPE STAR
NUEKAU CG-O D6-214 at 1.4727 Solar Masses
Discovered by CMDR Apocryphic

HOTTEST MS-TYPE STAR
NUEKAU CG-O D6-214 at 3,682.00K
Discovered by CMDR Apocryphic

YOUNGEST MS-TYPE STAR
NUEKAU CG-O D6-214 at 4,342 Million Years
Discovered by CMDR Apocryphic

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Lightest O-type star!

LIGHTEST O-TYPE STAR
BLAE DRYE CL-Y G4 B at 15.2734 SOLAR MASSES
Discovered by CMDR Mogador

Edit: I seem to have posted to few posts to be able to link pictures and such, oh well :/
Edit 2: I might have solved it, lets see!
 
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Record Breaking CN5 IIIB!

SMALLEST C-N TYPE STAR
FLOARKS WX-U D2-221 A WITH A SOLAR RADIUS OF 29.0907
Discovered by CMDR Apocryphic

LIGHTEST C-N TYPE STAR
FLOARKS WX-U D2-221 A WITH 0.9297 SOLAR MASSES
Discovered by CMDR Apocryphic

COLDEST C-N TYPE STAR
FLOARKS WX-U D2-221 A WITH A TEMPERATURE OF 2,752.00K
Discovered by CMDR Apocryphic

OLDEST C-N TYPE STAR
FLOARKS WX-U D2-221 A WITH 14,165 MILLION YEARS
Discovered by CMDR Apocryphic

CLOSEST C-N TYPE STAR TO SOL
FLOARKS WX-U D2-221 A AT 14,933,80LY
Discovered by CMDR Apocryphic

CLOSEST C-N TYPE STAR TO A HUMAN COLONY
FLOARKS WX-U D2-221 A AT 14,651.43LY FROM QUINCE
Discovered by CMDR Apocryphic

FARTHEST C-N TYPE STAR FROM SAGITTARIUS A*
FLOARKS WX-U D2-221 A AT 11,717.81LY
Discovered by CMDR Apocryphic

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