Universal Cartographics Galactic Record Breakers

[Ender]

Sure, MS class stars have progressed from M class, and have not yet become S class, while the description says they have progressed from S class. It's likely just a typo, though I have searched for SC class stars to no avail.

Plenty of other problems with descriptions and consistency, such as the limited number of giants and supergiants. Class B supergiants show as class A, class G supergiants show as class F, and class K supergiants show as class M. Meanwhile, class M sub-giants are giants, while class B giants are normal stars.

I see what you meant, now - no, I have not seen SC stars (it could be CS stars), yet, and I don't think anyone in this thread has as it would have been reported.
BTW, quite a collection of description bugs you have. Why have you not shared them earlier? They are very important as far as the book is concerned.

Trav ElEr and Patau, do you now see the scale of the problem? It's quite probable those are not all description bugs, yet.

 

[Apocryphic]

I already opened a bug thread on the MS class description, and only found the others this weekend.

Since I've seen pretty much all of the rare stars, I decided to check out the common classes on my way back from A* to see if I could find any other issues. This was after reading about the G/F issue in this thread and actually encountering it myself.

I'll open a bug thread with everything I've found, though I'm still searching for missing stars to finish my review. All that remain are some seemingly rare spectral/luminosity combinations.

 

[Patau82]

LARGEST and Heaviest F-TYPE STAR X-CARINAE https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=50952&p=1738935&viewfull=1#post1738935 F-type supergiant. Needs confirmation galaxy map screenie.


SMALLEST F-TYPE STAR FLYIEDGUE NB-X D1-6 https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=50952&p=1780522&viewfull=1#post1780522 Class F star: Clean


LIGHTEST F-TYPE STAR BETA DORADUS https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=50952&p=1812172&viewfull=1#post1812172 F-type Supergiant. Needs confirmation galaxy map screenie.



HOTTEST F-TYPE STAR THETA-1 CRUCIS https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=50952&p=1668863&viewfull=1#post1668863 Class F star: Clean


COLDEST and OLDEST F-TYPE STAR TYC 5126-4042-1 https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=50952&p=1833169&viewfull=1#post1833169 f-type supergiant. Needs confirmation galaxy map screenie


YOUNGEST F-TYPE STAR EOCK PRAU KB-X D1-1 https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=50952&p=1858353&viewfull=1#post1858353 F-type star: clean


F-TYPE STAR WITH THE MOST BODIES EIDAILLS LD-S D4-17 https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=50952&p=1816935&viewfull=1#post1816935 F-type star : clean


F-TYPE STAR WITH THE DEEPEST NESTING GLIESE 2026 ABC 1 & 2 https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=50952&p=1737614&viewfull=1#post1737614 F-type star : clean


SYSTEM WITH THE MOST F-TYPE STARS SYNUEFAI PY-G d11-22 https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=50952&p=1598703&viewfull=1#post1598703 https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=50952&p=1598703&viewfull=1#post1598703 Debatable. Only screenshot of one star, but color of second seems rather conclusive.


CLOSEST F-TYPE STAR TO SOL DUAMTA AT 9.88LY says from Archive.... can't find via google... check ingame?


CLOSEST F-TYPE STAR TO HUMAN COLONY CEGREETH https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=50952&p=1668860&viewfull=1#post1668860 screenshot only shows the station description, not star description. Looks very F-typey yellowwhite.


CLOSEST F-TYPE STAR TO SAGITTARIUS A* STUEMEAE FG-Y D8248 https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=50952&p=1835116&viewfull=1#post1835116 F-type star : clean


FURTHEST F-TYPE STAR FROM SAGITTARIUS A*GLIESE 2026 ABC 2 https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=50952&p=1737614&viewfull=1#post1737614 F-type star : clean


all those F-type supergiants look very G-typey to me from the colors....

I've checked these records, all F super giants are actually G class stars! it was actually very easy to check on my galmap just copied and pasted in search took me all of 5 min. this only works with first tier stars
will be resetting records for largest, heaviest, lightest, coldest and oldest f type stars
btw the closest to sol archive records were posted early on by me so I didn't provide evidence, they were really added to help noobs to check out some of the different stars in game. maybe I should claim them don't have many records left lol

Sure, MS class stars have progressed from M class, and have not yet become S class, while the description says they have progressed from S class. It's likely just a typo, though I have searched for SC class stars to no avail.

Plenty of other problems with descriptions and consistency, such as the limited number of giants and supergiants. Class B supergiants show as class A, class G supergiants show as class F, and class K supergiants show as class M. Meanwhile, class M sub-giants are giants, while class B giants are normal stars.

that a big list guess i'll have to check these too!

I see what you meant, now - no, I have not seen SC stars (it could be CS stars), yet, and I don't think anyone in this thread has as it would have been reported.
BTW, quite a collection of description bugs you have. Why have you not shared them earlier? They are very important as far as the book is concerned.

Trav ElEr and Patau, do you now see the scale of the problem? It's quite probable those are not all description bugs, yet.

as long as bug's are clear we can deal with them. Unfortunately we're down to 2 staff members at the moment and don't have much time, were concentrating on the next stage of this project which is currently extremely time consuming
I will add list of star types that need a galmap screen shot as evidence to OP and book later.
If anyone has a bit of time to spare, I would very much appreciate if current class A records can be checked on galmap to see if any are actually class B stars and if class M records are actually K class stars, otherwise I will check them myself tonight

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I've checked these records, all F super giants are actually G class stars! it was actually very easy to check on my galmap just copied and pasted in search took me all of 5 min. this only works with first tier stars
will be resetting records for largest, heaviest, lightest, coldest and oldest f type stars

will transfer relevant records to g-type star

edit: only X Carinae beat record for G stars so its now largest and heaviest

 

[Patau82]

added latest records!

SMALLEST METAL RICH PLANET
HIP 102918 1 A WITH 138 KM
Discovered by Feldspar

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Big fan of the book, finally have something to add, even if it is a small something.

Wow amazing find, bet you didn't realise that this is also the smallest planet ever posted!!!!!
where's your selfie screen shots from orbit??? I want to see!!

 

[Patau82]

checked the A class stars with lord zapan's help
largest
heaviest
hottest
youngest
categories have been reset

will check backup's when I get time to see if I can find previous suitable unbugged entries

 

[Ender]

So you still think this is not a good idea to provide a single additional picture of the Galaxy Map for star records as a general rule?

 

[Apocryphic]

A-Type Star Records

Heh, saw this as I was on my way to an A0 IA star. Maybe these will hold up for a little while.

LARGEST A-TYPE STAR
EOK PROO CQ-Y F218 AT 50.8995 SOLAR RADII
CMDR APOCRYPHIC

HEAVIEST A-TYPE STAR
EOK PROO CQ-Y F218 AT 7.2539 SOLAR MASSES
CMDR APOCRYPHIC

HOTTEST A-TYPE STAR
EOK PROO CQ-Y F218 AT 9,948.00K SURFACE TEMPERATURE
CMDR APOCRYPHIC

YOUNGEST A-TYPE STAR
EOK PROO CQ-Y F218 AT 77 MILLION YEARS
CMDR APOCRYPHIC

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[Patau82]

No problems with M stars in record book, apart from hottest which was posted incorrectly by us. doh
reset that one as I cant find suitable replacement
@Apocryphic do you have any examples of bugged supergiant K stars showing as M stars you could post for us to have a look at?

 

[Patau82]

So you still think this is not a good idea to provide a single additional picture of the Galaxy Map for star records as a general rule?

don't see the point in asking people to post gal map pics for unbugged stars really, but will add rule for bugged stars
so far we have:
class F super giants
class A super giants
and possibly class M super giants
Is there any others that need to be added to list?
I'm only after class description problems
we could always as a group check each description type to track down any other bugs, a new thread for this could be a good idea?

edit: also added latest records!

 

[Apocryphic]

K0 IAB - Red Supergiant

@Apocryphic do you have any examples of bugged supergiant K stars showing as M stars you could post for us to have a look at?

Yes, a K0 IAB did. I assume all of the K I type stars do, though have yet to visit another. If the star is a K II or K III type, it's an orange giant star with spectral type K.

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[Patau82]

Yes, a K0 IAB did. I assume all of the K I type stars do, though have yet to visit another. If the star is a K II or K III type, it's an orange giant star with spectral type K.

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thanks, I see why we don't have any bugged M class entries now
as the system map description doesn't give the star class, galmap screen shot was already required for that

 

[Apocryphic]

Screenshot Album

Also, I've been uploading all of my screenshots from this exploration trip to imgur albums, though you might have to dig for a while to find the right ones. I didn't start properly documenting the stars until I started this project on the way back, so only the second album has screenshots of the galaxy map in addition to the cockpit view and system map. All of the star types I've checked are in there, in addition to piles of collapsed stars.

Last week, outbound to A*:
http://imgur.com/a/neEBe

Since leaving A* for the journey back (still updating):
http://imgur.com/a/zss0l

 

[Patau82]

Also, I've been uploading all of my screenshots from this exploration trip to imgur albums, though you might have to dig for a while to find the right ones. I didn't start properly documenting the stars until I started this project on the way back, so only the second album has screenshots of the galaxy map in addition to the cockpit view and system map. All of the star types I've checked are in there, in addition to piles of collapsed stars.

Last week, outbound to A*:
http://imgur.com/a/neEBe

Since leaving A* for the journey back (still updating):
http://imgur.com/a/zss0l

wow that's a lot of pics very nice
checked out the new colonies yesterday went to LBN 623 as it was close
here's a pic

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[Ender]

don't see the point in asking people to post gal map pics for unbugged stars really, but will add rule for bugged stars
so far we have:
class F super giants
class A super giants
and possibly class M super giants
Is there any others that need to be added to list?
I'm only after class description problems
we could always as a group check each description type to track down any other bugs, a new thread for this could be a good idea?

Doesn't it say anything to you that we as a group have been failing for over 3 months in these cases? Instead of a general rule of adding just one additional picture you will ask people to remember all bugged star-types (who knows how many and for how long)? And you still don't recognize such a rule as a tool for finding more bugged star descriptions? Think about it again, please, and if you answer for all these question is yes then I won't say a word more about it (although I will still think that you are making a mistake ).

 

[Jack Luminous]

new record from me,
just completed a tour of the new colonies

FURTHEST POPULATED SYSTEM FROM SOL
SOTHIS AT 494.49 LY

CMDR MONKEY D LUFFY

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http://i.imgur.com/eNrAO8Z.jpg

here's a pic from my approach to one of the new stations Sothis Mining

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http://i.imgur.com/kakc9Qj.jpg

Nice pics Patau!

I can't find the info on which colonies were colonised after the Sirius Corp community goal, or new stations built (except the one mentioned in the newsletter). I must be blind...

 

[Lord_Zapan]

HOTTEST CLASS IV GAS GIANT
PW2010 210 A 3 WITH A TEMPERATURE OF 1,437 K
LORD ZAPAN

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[Patau82]

added latest records!

Nice pics Patau!

I can't find the info on which colonies were colonised after the Sirius Corp community goal, or new stations built (except the one mentioned in the newsletter). I must be blind...

galnet had an article about it a few days ago It listed the systems, I made a little thread about it here:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=126508&highlight=
after doing a bit of work for the Sirius corp :

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time to go play, went to check out LBN 623:

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I love the debug cam!!!

 

[Patau82]

Doesn't it say anything to you that we as a group have been failing for over 3 months in these cases? Instead of a general rule of adding just one additional picture you will ask people to remember all bugged star-types (who knows how many and for how long)? And you still don't recognize such a rule as a tool for finding more bugged star descriptions? Think about it again, please, and if you answer for all these question is yes then I won't say a word more about it (although I will still think that you are making a mistake ).

no I don't think we've been failing as a group as it was never the goal of the project or its contributors so we've never concentrated on it, I like to think the group has actually already played a big role in fixing some of these issues already.
It will mainly fall on us as book keepers to enforce this rule and make sure bugged records don't get through
as a tool for finding other bugs it is likely to be too late to be of any real use as many of the records are now at the extremes of each category so only a limited sample of stars will actually be posted
however in the interest of keeping our longest serving record hunter I can include this rule, as a son of Freeport I must say I really don't like these rules you speak of
joking aside if you are really serious about hunting these bugs down then I urge you to start a dedicated project so every type of star can be checked
this will be a far quicker and efficient method. I will gladly help and I'm sure many regular posters will also happily contribute, looks like Apocryphic has already started

 

[Jack Luminous]

galnet had an article about it a few days ago It listed the systems, I made a little thread about it here:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=126508&highlight=
after doing a bit of work for the Sirius corp :

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http://i.imgur.com/SBoOH4e.jpg

Thanks! That screenshot with your ship on the station....priceless!

 

[Jack Luminous]

A question about the current state of the book and removed records from problem categories: have you contacted the holders of those records yet? I mean, have all the removed records been checked as false alarms? I'm just curious whether it's ok to post new records in, for example, the F class stars category now.