Unknown Artefact (or artifact) Community Thread - The Canonn

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Alright, I grabbed a recording (https://youtu.be/XDgljhFWa8I) of:

* Flashing lights on when it lit up
* Flashing some bad Morse at it (SOS)
* Trying to chat with it in local comms
* Observing what the pods' lighting looked like

Bonus: You get to see me clumsily smack my ship directly into the UA.

I thought that I put on the wiki already that those tests were done....oh well also from skipping through the thread it seems like people haven't noticed my post from a bit back, where I have the SAP 8's needed for the test, I just need the time and some people to scoop up 12 items maybe......also again I ask if you have any test suggestions put them in a list and somewhere like that wiki so I can focus on them since I'm skipping through the forums due to my current free time....


PS need to go afk for a bit to make my lunch now 9:45 PM UK time
 
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The speed is really inconsequential, it just means that the UA has a worse baud rate than my first modem.

As for repetitions, dunno. I have seen only four transcripts, from two experiments that Kulin evaluated. Most people seem to simply dismiss the purrs.

I find it unlikely that an obvious binary code, in a puzzle designed by computer people, has no meaning.

The main problem with the binary code idea is that some of their "bytes" are six bits, and some 7 bits. One can always assume leading zeroes, but it's a bit messy that way.

I fully agree with this. It's just that the baud rate is a problem when the UA only lives for 5 min.
 
I thought that I put on the wiki already that those tests were done....oh well also from skipping through the thread it seems like people haven't noticed my post from a bit back, where I have the SAP 8's needed for the test, I just need the time and some people to scoop up 12 items maybe......also again I ask if you have any test suggestions put them in a list and somewhere like that wiki so I can focus on them since I'm skipping through the forums due to my current free time....


PS need to go afk for a bit to make my lunch now 9:45 PM UK time

How many SAP 8s do you have? 12?

I can help out, I was just about to start collecting SAP8s for the experiment with MrTee but if you have them already?

Maybe I'll grab +2 Saps just in case of accidents.
 
I thought that I put on the wiki already that those tests were done....oh well also from skipping through the thread it seems like people haven't noticed my post from a bit back, where I have the SAP 8's needed for the test, I just need the time and some people to scoop up 12 items maybe......also again I ask if you have any test suggestions put them in a list and somewhere like that wiki so I can focus on them since I'm skipping through the forums due to my current free time....


PS need to go afk for a bit to make my lunch now 9:45 PM UK time


Sorry, I didn't see that. In any event, there's more evidence it doesn't work. :/ LUNCH UR DOIN IT WRON
 
Ok the light on the legs could be something:
UALights.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKT6CVKclZg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxxZB9ytxQw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clbLEg3bk1o
 
How many SAP 8s do you have? 12?

I can help out, I was just about to start collecting SAP8s for the experiment with MrTee but if you have them already?

Maybe I'll grab +2 Saps just in case of accidents.

Yes 12 because that's how many slots there are on the UA, I plan to eject it and all the containers all together and see the reaction on the UA however there will be about 4-5 mins to pick everything up before something starts going boom so while I watch the UA I need one or two people to scoop us the SAP 8's....in anycase I also need the time to do it as well as the people too.

My current system is HIP 46388 come there to help but need to be there before half past ingame time.

Sorry, I didn't see that. In any event, there's more evidence it doesn't work. :/ LUNCH UR DOIN IT WRON
No problem just didn't realise that no one seemed to notice it.


I do not see what your trying to say about those lights.....
 
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I love the mini space station suggestion... Reminds me of Batteries Not Included!

Sorry to hear you jetted your UA into witchspace Wishblend. If someone still has or finds another one, take it to Jacques... He will know what to do ;)
 
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Fireflies, or small ships?
Haha yea after watching these 3 videos the "small station" theory get's more and more realistic. It's holding a stabilized position, like a station, it's slowly rotation, like a station, it has a front face that looks like it could open, like the mailslot in a station, and there is small things flying around looking like really small ships.
 
I said something similar yesterday, but I think it's too important to avoid saying again. This probably going to annoy one or two, so sorry in advance.

If you're considering binary, ask yourself these questions first, noting how many options for each you can think of at each step:

- If binary, how has it been encoded in the audio/light/body?
- What data would be broadcast?
- In what format (I.e. bits-per-'word' of data, and underlying data format) would that data be broadcast?

Only after selecting one answer for all these questions, and making lots of assumptions, can you then begin to interpret the binary that you could extract from the audio or visual of the UA.

Yes, you can try pattern analysis on your string of 1s and 0s, but unless you have an inkling of the type of data you're looking for, then you might as well be looking for unicorns in your mashed potato (or crafting one with your fork, like Dreyfuss).

And yes, anyone can provide a sound logical basis for how 'this sound means 1' while 'this sound means 0' (or likewise for colours, or flashes), but 'logical' does not mean 'sensible'. We must be wary of (to invoke the spirit of Douglas Adams) proving black is white and promptly killing ourselves on the next Zebra Crossing.

If you're making too many assumptions in order for a theory even to be testable (let alone correct), then it's probably wrong: Occam's Razor.

(If you're an Einsteinian genius, then this doesn't apply to you)

Contrast the complexity of the binary question with the simplicity of Morse question, which starts with one question:

- Is it Morse?
- If so, then I should be able get dits and dahs from it.
[Listen and transcribe]
- I have dits and dahs, one or two I'm not sure about, but I got 'em.
- Oh look, it spells a station name (barring one mispelled character).
- [repeats for other videos]
- Bingo!

Once the data was identified, the answer presented itself in the form of the system name, so there was no need to know what information was being broadcast.

There's no way of understanding the binary without first understanding what format you expect your data to be in, and, before that, what kind of data you expect. To me, that seems like a fool's errand. Yes it's going to keep us busy, but for no outcome.

So we need Occam and his Razor to cut through this. We got Morse - so now let's understand why. That's the most important question to me - because I strongly suspect there's no other hidden code or message in this thing - just random-ish sound/light for our poor pattern-starved human brains to try and find meaning too. Or if there is, we're missing a big part of the puzzle to be able to get to that next step.

My question: Why does it make a sound, and why does that sound contain a location name?

Simplest answer: So it can be heard - and so that the listener can know either where they are, or it is.

So, next question: Who's listening?
 
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Haha yea after watching these 3 videos the "small station" theory get's more and more realistic. It's holding a stabilized position, like a station, it's slowly rotation, like a station, it has a front face that looks like it could open, like the mailslot in a station, and there is small things flying around looking like really small ships.

Know what - this is genuinely turning into quite an interesting, if bonkers, idea: a miniature colony, modelled along the same tried and tested lines as a human space station.

Hmmm... That's actually not so easy to dismiss is it?
 
So it's now too late for me to try to do the UA with 12 SAP 8 containers so......tomorrow about 19:30 ingame time at System HIP 46388 I will try to be online at Littrow Terminal to do the test so go there and send me a friend request while posting here that your coming to do it and your CMDR name if I do not have you friended yet.....
 
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Know what - this is genuinely turning into quite an interesting, if bonkers, idea: a miniature colony, modelled along the same tried and tested lines as a human space station.

Hmmm... That's actually not so easy to dismiss is it?

Even though it was said as a joke before this genuinely would also explain why it damages your ship. It's simply the small ships/lifeforms trying to defend their station/home.
 
Even though it was said as a joke before this genuinely would also explain why it damages your ship. It's simply the small ships/lifeforms trying to defend their station/home.

Going of the small lifeforms idea, could it be a form of nanotechnology.
 
Finally had a chance to give the wiki a 1st rinse.

I may have missed it, but have we run the tests with two UAs in the same system and then run the test with one of the two in a neighbouring system?

Running the two in the same system would give us a chance to see if anything changed or anything of note occurred.

Running them from different systems would give us a way of seeing if they're 'talking/looking/whatever' for each other. If they are trying to interact with each other, by having a known fixed point for both UAs (the one relative to the other and vice versa) we would have a fixed PG pattern.

I'm not closed to the idea that the colours mean nothing, but I think they bear a little more examination.
 
Blimey, it's hard work trying to keep up with this thread!

An (not so) new approach for you again:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&p=2512751&viewfull=1#post2512751

>"the first thing to do in my opinion" How about find/demand new UA's first, Sir?
If the last two are gone the mystery is accomplished.

I'm not to be able to relate to the requests for hints as not enough toys are on the table.
Again only for one or two player and the rest watch Youtube & Twitch? Thank's then I'm out ...

So I was planning on posting something similar to this.
If FD aren't going to provide any hints, they could at least improve the spawn rate of UA encounters.
I think it's likely that they did so before on that fateful Bank Holiday Monday given the number of sightings that suddenly picked up.
We don't necessarily need anything like that, but the current rate must be so very rare.
I've personally been searching for UA in all my game time over the last week and I know several others have been searching too.

More UA would mean more tests and thus more likelihood of getting somewhere with this.
(I'm personally still voting for selling a UA at somewhere like Leonard Nimoy station - which is what I aim to do if I ever actually manage to get hold of another one.)
 
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