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Im done for the night. Spent around 3-4 hours at HR 1185 B and MAIA B. MAIA B seems like a dead end. Didn't get one SSS, only WSS and all were ambushes. Will camp HR 1185 B again tmoro and report back.
 
Im done for the night. Spent around 3-4 hours at HR 1185 B and MAIA B. MAIA B seems like a dead end. Didn't get one SSS, only WSS and all were ambushes. Will camp HR 1185 B again tmoro and report back.

That makes two of us. Jumped over to Maia as well to see if anything popped up, but nothing. Seems the RNG on SSS spawns is not in my favor today, haha.
 
The honking and wailing of the UA remind me of the Discovery Scanner sound. I think the morse even comes after the honk, which leads me to believe it's scanning then morseing (here at the canonn, we make up words.)

If you rapid fire the d-scanner it sound like the "Song of Spheres" i guess.
But the UA roar sounds like a combination of a "bell" (switching dimensions) and the sound of a big metal door opening in a large hallway to me.
 
With help from commander Nilreb, Sivert has found a new home with commander Zenith. And he's a brave boy, he agreed to help in any test necessary even if it costs him his life.
I'm back out in the Pleiades again, see if I can stumble across stuff.

Edit: Never mind, everything salvaged is marked stolen.
 
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Altough a bit late, but here's some bits from late last Sunday.

https://youtu.be/3bkyChxmGN8

Hah that looks pretty epic! Wish I recorded my viewpoint now. =)

With help from commander Nilreb, Sivert has found a new home with commander Zenith. And he's a brave boy, he agreed to help in any test necessary even if it costs him his life.
I'm back out in the Pleiades again, see if I can stumble across stuff.

Something interesting though: The UA did register as stolen, even though it was technically only illegal salvage. I thought it only got the stolen classifier when it came directly from another ship.

Are you all nuts?
You demask my camouflage again and again! If Frontier begins to go through the records how many
I have scooped and what runs I have make the last days I will find myself at the cheating server!

Time to explore the "clear save" option .... What CMDR name ar free right now? .... lets see ... :D
May the thread explode today at the 10.000 mark ...

We salute you!
 
GREAT!

The one time I actually WANT to play ED and my x52 drivers are crashing my PC again.

**** you Saitek. Fix your drivers.
 
But the UA roar sounds like a combination of a "bell" (switching dimensions) and the sound of a big metal door opening in a large hallway to me.

There's two roars. There's a definite tonality to it, with a few layers, like a choir. I've transcribed it. It's like a two part musical phrase that repeats, a sort of question and answer. Quickly transcribing it with the guitar it's in the key of C# but I didn't calibrate the tuning, so I'll refer to it in the key of C to save me writing out all those sharps. Depending which you consider as first in the series, it goes:

C, F#, C That F# could be a G, but G doesn't quite match - it could be that the layers are slightly discordant there)
E, C, D

or the other way around. It's a bit like the "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" riff but not in the same order. That was (in C, for example) D, E, C, C, G. Or expressed numerically (as in C=1, D=2, E=3 and so on) it's 231 15

Expressed numerically the UA roar is 1b51 312, unless that F# is a G, in which case it's 151 312.

Now if that all means something.... I dunno.
 
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Okay, brought to you from the scene of the Non-decaying Unknown Artefact at HR 1185 B, here is more than 11 minutes non-stop recording for you audio experts.
https://youtu.be/mdS3U2j1c9Y

I'm not an expert so I have only two observations:

The morse is clearly "HR 1185 B".Only the H is a bit difficult to hear because it starts during the wail.

The frequency of purrs does not rise as time passes. This is expected. I assume that the normal frequency rise is related to the health of the UA. Lower health produces higher pitch purrs. With constant 100 % health the pitch of purrs is also constant.
 
All sort of theories. I mean blackholes attract things, you can imagine UAs getting stuck in the gravitational well.

Alternatively the blackhole may be disrupting its ability to jump to witchspace or where ever they come from, meaning they might only ever be found on their own near black holes since they're unable to jump out.
Admitted, this is purely theoretical, but in hyperspace, you might only be able to detect gravity, so black holes (with their enormous gravity) might act as beacons there. Just like our ships drop out near the largest star, the UA might drop out near the highest concentration of gravity.

As I was scrolling down I had a brilliant idea about how they might jump & end up near a black hole. This ^^ this was the idea :D
So similarly how we jump from star to star, they might jump from black hole to the other - they might need something BH-related (like Hawking-rad?) to "lock on", apart and over gravity though, as there are some pretty massive stars out there too.... like... you know... ANTARES...

(the below is classic, starts up pretty good, then it gets... better... shows what happens to you... your mind... out there :D)

[video=youtube;X2B_HG8lkuc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2B_HG8lkuc[/video]

I went out to the Pleiades with chaff, hatch breaker limpets and a mining laser.
Stayed a while at HR 1185 B, met another CMDR who had seen some SS but without UA. I saw absolutely nothing, visited some other systems in the Pleiades, and decided to go back to the Apalar CG.
Would have liked to try to break the UAs hatches... since nobody seems to be able to confirm that that has already been tried. I guess a targeted UA would have to show subtargets on the left panel for a hatch breaker to do anything meaningful? I would expect the UA to have a lot of hatches (one for every limb).

Well, even I have a test for hatchbreakers somewhere.... let me see... yeah, here. I swear I'm pressing the button. Nothing happens. Nothing at all, same as the various scanners - they would not even start up.

In HR 1185, Mobius, I'm hanging around in the SSS thinking about it if anyone cares to join.

Well, no kidding. (wanted to use a different word here) that's truly awesome! Congrats!

Feeling a lot less ugly-headed. Just had a mate play "Who Killed Bambi?" down the phone at me.
a) good, it's all fine mate. Stuff happens. b) That's evil! :D I did laugh out loud though.

...
About the MASS test, it'd be better to bring more than just one Anaconda near the UA: one it's not enough IMO... the more mass, the better.
And now that we know the UA likes Black Holes, we know that it likes massive things, as I already theorized before all the recent news... ;)
T9 = 2.5 x Anaconda mass-wise. Just sayin' ;)

It does indeed! I only had to spend half an hour in system, scanning planets and there you are, a UA alone in a SSS.

I tried silent running for maybe 10 minutes, just to see if a thargoid capital ship would frameshift in, but no luck :)

I'll try to scan the wiki for test suggestions next.

Oh wait what? So you've found it in the system but NOT near the black hole?


With help from commander Nilreb, Sivert has found a new home with commander Zenith. And he's a brave boy, he agreed to help in any test necessary even if it costs him his life.
I'm back out in the Pleiades again, see if I can stumble across stuff.

Something interesting though: The UA did register as stolen, even though it was technically only illegal salvage. I thought it only got the stolen classifier when it came directly from another ship.
Good to hear! Although knowing Zenith, his days are numbered. The UA's, not Zenith's :D
Every salvage registers as stolen, that's normal. There are only 2 things that don't - stuff that you've ejected in any way, to you only - or things that were ejected by "abandon", to everyone.
 
I'm not an expert so I have only two observations:

The morse is clearly "HR 1185 B".Only the H is a bit difficult to hear because it starts during the wail.

The frequency of purrs does not rise as time passes. This is expected. I assume that the normal frequency rise is related to the health of the UA. Lower health produces higher pitch purrs. With constant 100 % health the pitch of purrs is also constant.

So we need to get it down to 1% health and see what 20 mins of that sounds like :D for science!
 
Woohoo, 6800LY to go and then I might be able to take in the fun. Might make it back by tomorrow, maybe.

Edit: That is if I can stop jumping into unexplored systems with ELWs and WWs, just did it again!

Just make sure you jump into SSS-es as well if you see some! :D I'll promise to kit something up and relieve you if you do find one.
 
I'm not an expert so I have only two observations:

The morse is clearly "HR 1185 B".Only the H is a bit difficult to hear because it starts during the wail.

The frequency of purrs does not rise as time passes. This is expected. I assume that the normal frequency rise is related to the health of the UA. Lower health produces higher pitch purrs. With constant 100 % health the pitch of purrs is also constant.

This is important! Of course as you say it's expected, but has never been confirmed until now that the pitch change is related to health. (so now this can be excluded from further theories) That's a good thing!
 
This is important! Of course as you say it's expected, but has never been confirmed until now that the pitch change is related to health. (so now this can be excluded from further theories) That's a good thing!

Absolutely is - to be fair, seems to me that UAs being found in space on their own lops off quite a few theories - which is great for us.

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Means we can come up with a whole load more...
 
As I was scrolling down I had a brilliant idea about how they might jump & end up near a black hole. This ^^ this was the idea :D
So similarly how we jump from star to star, they might jump from black hole to the other - they might need something BH-related (like Hawking-rad?) to "lock on", apart and over gravity though, as there are some pretty massive stars out there too.... like... you know... ANTARES

Before we all theorise ourselves back into wonderland about black holes (myself included) it's be good to test this out by checking out other black holes for UA. If they are navpoints there would be others around black holes elsewhere in the galaxy. Anyone near a black hole willing to test this?
 
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I'm not an expert so I have only two observations:

The morse is clearly "HR 1185 B".Only the H is a bit difficult to hear because it starts during the wail.

The frequency of purrs does not rise as time passes. This is expected. I assume that the normal frequency rise is related to the health of the UA. Lower health produces higher pitch purrs. With constant 100 % health the pitch of purrs is also constant.

Sigon, Britain and myself surmised much the same thing while we were listening to it this afternoon RandomGun. It makes sense if it isn't decaying.
The ones that decay show the change in pitch as time progresses. I did notice that the purrs seemed longer and lower frequency than usual, and that seems to be the case when we either have lots of ships nearby or the UA is "content". :)

Thank you Sigon and nilreb for little Sivert. And now the dilemma...

There's been a number of "group hug" tests in the last couple of days. Ratking15 and Kerrash had a hug yesterday, and Sigon, nilbreb, Britain and myself have hugged a UA today.
Anaconda, 2 Pythons and a DBX made no real change in the audio output. There's still scope for more "scrum" tests with more and larger ships in close proximity to a UA. Maybe we could load some of those ships with SAP8 Cores and Hafnium, just to see if there's any change in the pulsing or sound from the UA.

Once we've done the "group hug" or "scrum" tests, we're going to start running into a shortage of non-destructive tests. There's still tests that can be done with SAP8 cores, Hafnium and Trinkets of Hidden Fortune, but once those are done then there will be a controlled destructive test left. Don't worry, I'm not going to offer Sivert to the altar of RNGesus just yet, but it is there in the background and plans are being drawn up for the conditions of the destructive testing.

[edit] I see Rauminen anticipated what I was thinking. :)
 
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Just make sure you jump into SSS-es as well if you see some! :D I'll promise to kit something up and relieve you if you do find one.


Keeping my eyes open, going to pop into Cave Nebula on the way back, then Polaris, then refit and head for the Pleiades. Not sure how long it is going to take for me to sell all my data once I am back, (not?) looking forward to that. Unfortunately the whole Pleiades madness began when I was already more than 1000 light years past Heart and Soul, or I would have looked in there as well just to see if anything was going on since I was last there on my way out. I hate backtracking.

Edit: Might hit NGC 7822 as well.
 
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Oh wait what? So you've found it in the system but NOT near the black hole?

Correct. I'm not in game now, but it was about 18ls away from the innermost gas giant, orbiting the main star. This should probably help debunk the theories focussing on the black hole. There is something else we are missing about the source systems...
 
I'm not an expert so I have only two observations:

The morse is clearly "HR 1185 B".Only the H is a bit difficult to hear because it starts during the wail.

The frequency of purrs does not rise as time passes. This is expected. I assume that the normal frequency rise is related to the health of the UA. Lower health produces higher pitch purrs. With constant 100 % health the pitch of purrs is also constant.

Aye, been waiting for people to bring up how unusual the UA audio is...

So the pitch doesn't change, yeah I also think this implies the pitch is related to the integrity of the UA. I think this is testable by "nudging" the next 100% UA we find, a careful nudge will typically take up to 50% off so it should survive, but we would hopefully see a definite and sudden increase in pitch.

And the purrs, on both Zenith's and my footage the purrs are two throughout.

So I went back and retested with a degrading UA.=p

[video=youtube_share;QxFxjkVUmPY]http://youtu.be/QxFxjkVUmPY[/video]

5 purrs. So I don't think the purrs are an indicator of the black hole (I do have other black hole footage), nor does it look like anything to do with the location of the system.

So again I'm wondering is it related to the integrity? Again this can be tested by nudging down from 100% I think. Although we don't seem to get tons of purss when the UA is near 0%.

I mean it may be related to the number of observers but that just doesn't make much sense to me at all, except perhaps that P2P UDP is "dropping purrs" but 2 consistently all the way for 40 minutes?

[video=youtube;hLLr8xP0Mcs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLLr8xP0Mcs[/video]
[video=youtube;SRvhyYxO8Hw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRvhyYxO8Hw[/video]
 
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