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Wow this thread got reincarnation, I thought it will be long gone when I get back to ED :)
A bit of theory now. I guess I pointed out some stuff that was said previously, but I cant help myself. All stuff below points to it imo...
UA decays fast in space, so it doesnt point to possibility it is a spacecraft like Voyager, but lets make some fantasy now (this fantasy kinda supports theory UA might be a weapon):
1) There is mention of Star Trek movie on Voyager 2 wikipedia, where alien race rebuilt fictional Voyager and send it back to Earth to anihilate humanity (ok, this is only funny :) )
2) UAs have similarities to Voyager missions. Whale singing, some signals, beeping, some unclear blahbling, chittering etc (how OUR spoken word can sound to different species? I imagine it's horrible, because english spoken by scotsman sounds horrible for czech guy... Try to imagine...)
3) it sends back name of closest stellar body. With possibility of carrying weapon of mass destruction, this can be understood as kinda showcase of doctrine of using robotics in mass destruction scenario. We know roughly where enemy is, we send out probes with weapon to spread out and send back names of those places, so we know what places are supposed to be kinda clear. We can send conventional military forces to seize the rest of area, that is believed to be in enemy control.
4) UAs found only because of convoys, right? So they decay in space. Therefore they had to be found somewhere on planets surface. "Hey, dude! Thats cool, lets take it inside and sell it!" Poor little scavangers, now knowing they just took mass destruction weapon on board, carrying it into inhabited world... Like ants taking poisoned dust into hive. If these points are nearing somewhere to true, this can finally kill option UA is probe. I don't think you can anihilate planet from orbit...
5) plague spreading all across inhabited bubble.

TL;DR
I dont think UA is decoy or beacon. It's more like mass destruction weapon built to have similarities to our Voyager probes to make it more interesting for humankind to bring it in. ("dude, cool stuff" effect)
Also it can be really probe, only infested with virus that cant hurt builders species, because they are used to it. Remember wiping out half of america continents civilizations because of silly flu? But it would be then able to travel large distances alone...

Conclusion:
if UA is origin of plague, has anyone tried to sell it to any advanced medical facility? For example some world with both hi-tech and medical? Also I believe there was some galnet new few months earlier that some minor faction was buying out? Can someone clarify this? If yes, what faction was that? Wasnt able to find it...
What can happen if someone can try to sell it there? Maybe cure will show up. Selling to infested colony doesnt help much. It's like giving antidote in injection to Vinnettou. He wouldnt know what to do with it, most likely breaking needle in his vein and bleedin out afterwards...

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also I know what im suggesting is basically destructive research. I just wonder if this can be it...
 
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LordZoltan and others, I've already deeply listened to the whole Golden Disc in the same time I discovered Leonard Nimoy Whale Song, some time ago.
Yes I found some 'coincidences' in the various sounds, but nothing decisive at that time. If you remember I've pointed out the fact that the Thargs could have found the Probes, and tried to send us a reply using the same 'language'. But then?

I have gone down this path already. That the missing voyages and the UA's are connected in some way.

We supposedly done the morse code message back to the UAs they have been brought to the location of where the voyagers were.
 
Not to mention the clones.

But Antares has been the only ship we have repeatedly been hit over the head with in Galnet. Personally I don't think there is a UA-Antares link, but just wanted to bring it up again while we were focusing (loosely) on Morse.

Edit: Apparently all the AIs have been dumbed down for use remotely piloting your ship in orbit in Horizons.

I searched this thread and the wiki and I don't remember anyone actually doing this...

We're getting the name Antares pushed in our faces by Galnet. Has anyone taken a UA to the star Antares, the heart of Scorpio the Scorpion? It should be about 550 ly away and is a red supergiant.
 
Wow this thread got reincarnation, I thought it will be long gone when I get back to ED :)
A bit of theory now. I guess I pointed out some stuff that was said previously, but I cant help myself. All stuff below points to it imo...
UA decays fast in space, so it doesnt point to possibility it is a spacecraft like Voyager, but lets make some fantasy now (this fantasy kinda supports theory UA might be a weapon):
1) There is mention of Star Trek movie on Voyager 2 wikipedia, where alien race rebuilt fictional Voyager and send it back to Earth to anihilate humanity (ok, this is only funny :) )
2) UAs have similarities to Voyager missions. Whale singing, some signals, beeping, some unclear blahbling, chittering etc (how OUR spoken word can sound to different species? I imagine it's horrible, because english spoken by scotsman sounds horrible for czech guy... Try to imagine...)
3) it sends back name of closest stellar body. With possibility of carrying weapon of mass destruction, this can be understood as kinda showcase of doctrine of using robotics in mass destruction scenario. We know roughly where enemy is, we send out probes with weapon to spread out and send back names of those places, so we know what places are supposed to be kinda clear. We can send conventional military forces to seize the rest of area, that is believed to be in enemy control.
4) UAs found only because of convoys, right? So they decay in space. Therefore they had to be found somewhere on planets surface. "Hey, dude! Thats cool, lets take it inside and sell it!" Poor little scavangers, now knowing they just took mass destruction weapon on board, carrying it into inhabited world... Like ants taking poisoned dust into hive. If these points are nearing somewhere to true, this can finally kill option UA is probe. I don't think you can anihilate planet from orbit...
5) plague spreading all across inhabited bubble.

TL;DR
I dont think UA is decoy or beacon. It's more like mass destruction weapon built to have similarities to our Voyager probes to make it more interesting for humankind to bring it in. ("dude, cool stuff" effect)
Also it can be really probe, only infested with virus that cant hurt builders species, because they are used to it. Remember wiping out half of america continents civilizations because of silly flu? But it would be then able to travel large distances alone...

Conclusion:
if UA is origin of plague, has anyone tried to sell it to any advanced medical facility? For example some world with both hi-tech and medical? Also I believe there was some galnet new few months earlier that some minor faction was buying out? Can someone clarify this? If yes, what faction was that? Wasnt able to find it...
What can happen if someone can try to sell it there? Maybe cure will show up. Selling to infested colony doesnt help much. It's like giving antidote in injection to Vinnettou. He wouldnt know what to do with it, most likely breaking needle in his vein and bleedin out afterwards...

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also I know what im suggesting is basically destructive research. I just wonder if this can be it...

No patterns/connections found between UA systems or convoy systems and plague systems. We would have infected all the systems we have been testing in by now and that has not happened. And the Cerberus Plague has been cured, cure is Heike Tea, a normal rare.

Edit: And someone popped a UA inside a station, and it did not get infected.
 
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So, like, this might be inspired. Off the first of those two links, 'The Music of the Spheres' does sound quite a bit like some of the background noise that's often quite loud in many UA recordings?

Also, listen to the 'Morse Code, Ships' link - that ship's horn does sound like it could be slowed down to make the purrs.

And of the elephant sounds in 'Birds, Hyena, Elephant', one or two could be similar to the honk.

I even think the Morse is a similar speed to the Morse we get from the UA.

It's all loose-fitting, like MC Hammer's trousers, but... Just, well, it's possible...

Will be interesting to see if the "The Music of the Spheres" is linked in any way to the mission "The Silent Song Of The Spheres".
 
No patterns/connections found between UA systems and plague systems. We would have infected all the systems we have been testing in by now and that has not happened. And the Cerberus Plague has been cured, cure is Heike Tea, a normal rare.

Edit: And someone popped a UA inside a station, and it did not get infected.

If there is connection, you'd have to sell it to infest that particular station. Releasing it into space will do nothing imho, as virus will most likely not survive under fire of radiation, UV etc what is in open space. Dunno if interior of space stations is full of atmosphere where it can travel from can in which it was transfered, to its victim... Fed stations doesnt look like, Imperial might be, but not sure...
 
Kerrash has said we've started going the right way with a theory in the last UA thread but then we diverted or stopped on it. Also yes it has been tried and reported I thought on the wiki about outfitting it............

What was the theory back then?
 
I searched this thread and the wiki and I don't remember anyone actually doing this...

We're getting the name Antares pushed in our faces by Galnet. Has anyone taken a UA to the star Antares, the heart of Scorpio the Scorpion? It should be about 550 ly away and is a red supergiant.

Not that I am aware of.
 
Sorry for posting this. I realy hate meta clues, but here goes.

I did a bit of studing on Titan and found the sea called 'Kraken Mare". So while checking out the Kraken (I've seen it mentioned in conection with the Leviathan a lot) I came over this silly beast that sounds like whale/UA and looks like a cross between a turtle and a squid: http://youtu.be/O35_fg5qFlU

Just listen from 2:28 and about 20 sec.

I guess what I'm saying is: Please tell me I'm wrong.

I have nothing to say about the sound but,

About that scene: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cepheus,_King_of_Aethiopia

Want to take a wild guess which constellation Bast is in? ;)
 
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Is there a high res picture of the sap 8 container? I wonder what the barcode translates to. (Sorry for the random ideas)

Seem to remember it being run through proper barcoding equipment by someone here, nothing came of it.

SAP8
uc


Hafnium
uc


Painite
uc
 
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Hmm, 027540 could be a grid reference, will check tomorrow (scratch that, later today, after some sleep and some work)

Interesting if we use the non-printable characters of ASCII... 0 in ASCII is null. 2 in ASCII is STX (start of text), 7 is BEL (bell), 5 is ENQ (enquiry), 4 is END (end of transmission) and 0 is again NUL


coincidence that the start of message is at beginning and end is at end?

Of course, you could also say that 27 is ESC (escape) and 54 is the number 6... or 27 as ESC, 5 as ENQ and 7 as BEL.
 
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No patterns/connections found between UA systems or convoy systems and plague systems. We would have infected all the systems we have been testing in by now and that has not happened. And the Cerberus Plague has been cured, cure is Heike Tea, a normal rare.

Edit: And someone popped a UA inside a station, and it did not get infected.

Heike Tea with the Artefact would still be a good test - I severely doubt that FDEV would give us a weapon that we could take to any station and infect the population..... If the UA is related to the plague - it is related tangentially (as in they are both related to something else )
 
The other hint from MB was that they are only found in certain regions of the galaxy. That's regions in the plural. So far, they're all in the human bubble. Perhaps there's some more in another region, and when those are found something will become clearer? The morse points to the idea that these things are navigational tools somehow. Random thought: has anyone tried fitting it in outfitting?

Tried a month ago & recorded - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLomc-hLtq4. If it can be fit to a ship, it doesn't work on my Courier.

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Well, Voyager 1 and 2 were in the game, with audio, until they disappeared recently. And it has not been acknowledged as a bug by FD. If that is not hitting us over the head with a hint, I am not sure what qualifies.

Sorry, but having filed several bug reports, none of them have been addressed in-game (broken planetary textures, non-hollow CMDR icons, ship "comets" lack the bright glow at the front in Supercruise, Voyagers missing). So if that's a hint, it's a dirt-poor one.
 
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