I want a mingfu.
Unlocking low value Permit Systems
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From Inara's Mingfu page:
And from the HIP 54530 page:
Not sure what to make of those figures. Given that Inara gets its data from visitors to each system (if they're running a reporting tool such as EDMC), why are the dates so similar between the two systems, and why the three-year delay between "factions updated" and "info updated" in both cases?
More info on inaccessible systems, as listed on the Updated Permit List thread:
4 SEXTANTIS (apparently deliberately inaccessible):
CD-44 1695:
LFT 509 (supposedly uninhabited, suspected to contain Dark Wheel station)
And from the HIP 54530 page:
Not sure what to make of those figures. Given that Inara gets its data from visitors to each system (if they're running a reporting tool such as EDMC), why are the dates so similar between the two systems, and why the three-year delay between "factions updated" and "info updated" in both cases?
More info on inaccessible systems, as listed on the Updated Permit List thread:
4 SEXTANTIS (apparently deliberately inaccessible):
(note that Inara did get a list of factions from this supposedly inaccessible system)
CD-44 1695:
(This looks like another Mingfu, with all native factions not present elsewhere)
LFT 509 (supposedly uninhabited, suspected to contain Dark Wheel station)
(no listed factions)
After coming back from a relatively short exploration run I was able to just buy most of the permits with exploration data. I think it took about 7 million in exploration per permit.
however there are a couple of systems whose permits are BGS locked. The factions that control the permits have so little influence in the system they’re in that you can’t get rep with them. They don’t give missions to players who don’t already have some rep, they don’t give bounties (even with KWS) and there just nothing you can do short of flipping BGS to get rep with them and that’s just too much grind.
however there are a couple of systems whose permits are BGS locked. The factions that control the permits have so little influence in the system they’re in that you can’t get rep with them. They don’t give missions to players who don’t already have some rep, they don’t give bounties (even with KWS) and there just nothing you can do short of flipping BGS to get rep with them and that’s just too much grind.
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Do Polaris next!
I've only encountered one player that claimed to have a Mingfu permit and I don't think they play the game any more. The permit has been effectively unobtainable since late 2016, if I recall correctly.
We messed up Mingfu then Frontier made it worse.
I'm not vert familiar with INARA, but I'd assume 'factions updated' it's when the last permit holder with an INARA account went to those systems.
Been allied with the controlling faction for years. Never been offered a permit
It would be nice if the primary barrier to such content wasn't a purely technical limitation that had been co-oped as an arbitrary gameplay constraint. It's a serious breach of contextuality to have systems only load via a hyperspace jump, even when they are within reach of supercruise.
The controlling faction is not always the faction that issues the permit. For example, Hutton Truckers are the controlling faction for Van Maanen's Star, yet they don't issue the permit. (yes I know I just used a PMF as an example, don't hate me it was the best I could think of off the top of my head).
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I don't think 4 Sextantis has ever been controlled by anyone other than 4 Sextantis Inc, who are the only faction in the system that has a presence outside the system.
If you're after after the permits, I'm currently in Wonorne Nu system docked at Nowak Hub. This station has two factions here that issue permits, The Brotherhood Of Terra Mater and The Defence Party Of Nastrond. If you rank up with both of these here, you can get the Nastrond permit from the Defence Party Of Nastrond, and having got to allied with the Brotherhood of Terra Mater head over to Hecate to get the permit from them.
Here's my current permits, I have 4 left to get that I know of
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Crom has a sun and an outpost. That's it. Outfitting yes. Shipyard no.
Ah, but looking at commodities it sells the rare 'Crom Silver Fesh'.
Useful if into trading rare commodities. It's the little details to look for.
Right...The Thargoids probably killed off all the minor factions.
Thus no one except maybe a Dev can get in.
Greetings,
Well with 2-3 hrs of game play for each system this week I unlocked:
Crom
Hodack
Isinor
Luyten 347-14
LTT 198
Nastrond
Pi Mensae
Terra Mater
Tilliala
Van Maanen's Star
Last on this local list will be Jotun and Peregrina. Then moving into the black for more. I have all the others gaining rank with the 3 alliances and starting with Facece new to the game because I liked it. I used the ED-Board to show which faction offers the permit. There may be others. With experience from the other info below I no longer need it.
I used EDDB for:
1. Start finding systems requiring a permit near my location.
2. Research faction states (boom, investment etc) for missions with 3-5 rep points.
3. Find commodities for high rep missions delivering to the faction.
I did not accept any missions that would make me a criminal which often offered +++++ rep. If a criminal career is not your game play you can do this pretty easy. I have no problem being a criminal knowing how it works just that they take longer than data and cargo runs with some in two parts especially in expansion systems. But if combat is your thing you're gonna' love factions in war!
I did kill pirate missions which are legal and one-on-one my Python won. Being combat Elite I only get dangerous and above Anacondas, Fer de Lances, Challengers and a Corvette now and then. Stacking missions then Frontier likes to mix it up with an Elite Fer de Lance then two deadly Vultures show up a minute later with a rail gun and a beam! My Python didn't last long trying to take down the Fer de Lance's recharging shields...twice. I lost 14 million in rebuys but added to my experience.
Still in system on final approach delivering commodities to the faction I took out a lot of deadly Anacondas letting them win the interdiction and got more rep if the faction was in control and paying. I also FSS scanned all systems collecting cartographics and upon going to the next permit system to unlock with enough I immediately got to Cordial without taking a mission.
So maybe my experience will increase your game play options and be better at it! Meanwhile we're still awaiting Odyssey!
Regards
Well with 2-3 hrs of game play for each system this week I unlocked:
Crom
Hodack
Isinor
Luyten 347-14
LTT 198
Nastrond
Pi Mensae
Terra Mater
Tilliala
Van Maanen's Star
Last on this local list will be Jotun and Peregrina. Then moving into the black for more. I have all the others gaining rank with the 3 alliances and starting with Facece new to the game because I liked it. I used the ED-Board to show which faction offers the permit. There may be others. With experience from the other info below I no longer need it.
I used EDDB for:
1. Start finding systems requiring a permit near my location.
2. Research faction states (boom, investment etc) for missions with 3-5 rep points.
3. Find commodities for high rep missions delivering to the faction.
I did not accept any missions that would make me a criminal which often offered +++++ rep. If a criminal career is not your game play you can do this pretty easy. I have no problem being a criminal knowing how it works just that they take longer than data and cargo runs with some in two parts especially in expansion systems. But if combat is your thing you're gonna' love factions in war!
I did kill pirate missions which are legal and one-on-one my Python won. Being combat Elite I only get dangerous and above Anacondas, Fer de Lances, Challengers and a Corvette now and then. Stacking missions then Frontier likes to mix it up with an Elite Fer de Lance then two deadly Vultures show up a minute later with a rail gun and a beam! My Python didn't last long trying to take down the Fer de Lance's recharging shields...twice. I lost 14 million in rebuys but added to my experience.
Still in system on final approach delivering commodities to the faction I took out a lot of deadly Anacondas letting them win the interdiction and got more rep if the faction was in control and paying. I also FSS scanned all systems collecting cartographics and upon going to the next permit system to unlock with enough I immediately got to Cordial without taking a mission.
So maybe my experience will increase your game play options and be better at it! Meanwhile we're still awaiting Odyssey!
Regards
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I did that while waiting for the Carriers release, before it got put back from December, 'til it was relaesed last June.
As far as I see from the list I had, I'd completed it & even only had left those which could not be completed despite their Systems being Permit locked.......now it's deja vu, I'm back in the bubble & looking for something to keep me entertained while Odyssey drops - so might look into the list again & see if anything's change
As far as I see from the list I had, I'd completed it & even only had left those which could not be completed despite their Systems being Permit locked.......now it's deja vu, I'm back in the bubble & looking for something to keep me entertained while Odyssey drops - so might look into the list again & see if anything's change
As I now have all but 2 obtainable permits (the new player's area permit which you lose once you gain a rank, and the permit if you prestige your CQC Elite rank) I found a good way to gain rep was to do passenger missions. I would often find Rep+++++ missions for tourists that wanted to visit a few nearby systems.
I wish.
Alas, it is just a Coriolis.
I unlocked Crom yesterday.
I know, it pales in comparison.
I know, it pales in comparison.
Well spotted. Certainly one to keep an eye on.