Bruce G
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Glad to hear you like it!I understand why Frontier is doing this, I really do. I don't like it, LOL, but I do understand it.
But I don't like it
Are there any sales planned for Odyssey in the near future, across all PC storefronts? This is a massive kick in the teeth to ask people to pay more than the price of base game just to get any future content, even just CG's. This affects the Fuel Rats, this affects anyone with a PMF or just any minor faction supporters, this affects trading player groups, this affects anyone who plays outside of just their own little bubble.
Ian Phillips
Volunteer Moderator
Seeing as there is a BGS for the Legacy mode, the same reasoning applies - have to be online to affect the BGS as every action adds up.
What are the chances of Odyssey and Horizons 4.0 sharing the same instances in space, at any point in the future? The playerbase needs less fragmentation, not more.
Oh, please, we've been reading about your reluctance to move to Odyssey for more than a year, bypassing a few sales offers and a donation.
Bruce G
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Future content will be available across both Horizons and Odyssey on the Live version. Purchasing Odyssey is not a requirement for any of the things you list.
Will players who newly buy only the base game have access to Horizons 4.0 ?
Bruce G
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Odyssey and Horizons players will be able to instance together for the first time as of Update 14 by both being able to play in Horizons on Live. In that regard we're joining players together rather than fragmenting anything. What we're not offering is to allow Horizons players into the Odyssey instance for free.
Ah yes, forgot EDH 4 was a thing, sorry about that.
Bruce G
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Yes. Horizons is synonymous with the base game.
I do have a serious question regarding this. After November 29th, will new players who buy Horizons on Steam automatically get version 4.0 instead of 3.8?
Fix the thrusters in Odyssey and a few of the other anomalies always repeatedly mentioned and I'd be happy to return to Odyssey.
Let me know if you need the list
Bruce G
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New players will have access to both Live and Legacy modes. Without Odyssey purchase, this means Horizons 4.0 (Live) and Horizons 3.8 (Legacy).
ok so no offline mode ok them but different modes still will be in legacy mode yes ?
Bruce G
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Yes, you'll still have Solo, Private Group and Open in Legacy.
It's not about that. I'm saying about the mechanics like Crystal Forest which in Horizons are bond with Fumaroles which provides heat and minerals to microorganisms which create the Crystal Shards in close formations but in Odyssey they are spread in the entire world and have no link between the Crystal Shards and Fumaroles, which I only can assume that now the microorganisms don't need heat and minerals to survive. This is only one example but there is multiple examples which turns the material gathering even harder and time consuming than before. And speaking science-wise, makes no sense at all considering the in-game description in the codex.
Another example is the way that cargo racks were worked since the alpha. First we could find cargo racks unbroken and we could cut them with the ARC Cutter to get the full yield of materials and reloading would respawn them again resetting the material gathering.
After they were changed to always be broken and not cuttable with the ARC Cutter tool which led to a yield of three materials which each one gave three units of material but still reloading the game would reset and respawn them.
Now we have the cargo racks always broken, giving just one (with three units) random material which not always is a level 4 raw material and even worse reloading the game will NOT reset and make the cargo racks respawn again.
I don't see a nice future with this pattern being downhill.
I don't like to reloading the game to be able to gather materials, I believe this is a poor mechanic but to cut down the yield, limit the way crystal shards worked to a rarer way to find them and yet they are still broken since the alpha because most of them are above the ground and the ones which aren't still have a broken hitbox impossible to shoot, it's not the intended way the materials could be.
I mean, the Geological and Biological markers are not the main problem here, we don't need them since we can track the geo-coordinates outside the game.
The point is: all three types of materials for ship engineering have been with broken mechanics since the alpha, some were fixed, others don't. Raw materials are the most affected in Odyssey than the two other types but still they need to be looked and worked to be better.
It's coming up to black Friday so it's reduced in price in both steam and epic currently.
I think finding a way to keep at least the BGS connected would be prudent, this split is going to double the workload for faction supporters.
Hopefully the justification for making this change will become clear once more info on update 14 & the future direction of the game becomes available.
Fingers crossed!
Hopefully the justification for making this change will become clear once more info on update 14 & the future direction of the game becomes available.
Fingers crossed!
Not true. I cut it and get 6 items. Just did 2 days ago 5 times. Or shoot it and get 1 item.