Update 14 and Beyond: Live and Legacy Modes

You really think that’s the real reason of this split? 😂
Why Odyssey players can't instance with Horizons 4.0 players?

Essentially yes. If the Horizons player lands next to two of their Odyssey mates and watches through the windcsreen of an SRV as they shoot each other in the face then they could be traumatised for life (or at least for the next 9 years, assuming they were 7 at the time).
 
FWIW I hadn't seen this news and went to collect raw mats last night, and was able to fill up in Ody without any issue.

Even if you only spot one or two shards initially, there's usually a large forest nearby.

Worst case, there are coords for every one of the HIP 36601 / Outotz LS-K d8-3 planets.
The split happens with update 14, ie 29 November 2022,
 
Hmm, wouldn't that mean not even being able to land on planets? Or was Horizons just before engineers?
It was prior to it, yes. I think, but can't recall accurately off the top of my head, whether it was before hitpoint inflation. Might've been after shield boosters & SCBs arrived, but before Hull reinforcement packages (which preceded all other forms of reinforcement packages, of course).
 
You're absolutely right. It boggles my mind why these people would argue against giving players more notice. It does not hurt them in any way. Literally zero. It's an online / multiplayer game. You want as many people playing it as possible. It's what keeps the world "alive" and what pays the bills to keep servers running and content coming. When you lose a significant portion of your player base, it can have a much more wide reaching effect than anticipated.

Plus, if for no other reason, players should always be concerned about any game company that makes a promise (especially one that drives sales, or calms opposition) and then immediately reneges on that promise. That should worry everyone.

But, I see that FDev or mods are not going to address the many repeats of the same questions/concerns from console players - they've made it clear how those players rank to them I guess. And all I'm going to get are responses from trolls or people who want the remaining console players to ... not join on PC for some reason? Makes perfect sense.
You're perfectly correct about wanting & needing better communication.

What I am puzzled by is why you feel caught out by this news when the writing for consoles was put on the wall much earlier this year. I mean, they pretty explicitly stated there will be no future development on console moving forward. I'm not sure that's even having to 'read between the lines', as it were - seems pretty cut and dry, to me?

At any rate...whatever criticisms I readily provide of Fdev, their support staff has been consistently stellar, one of the best to be found anywhere in the industry. I would be extremely surprised if they aren't able to hammer out the problem of proper account transfers to PC for you, and in a way that doesn't put a time pressure upon you.
 
Straight up question, requiring a straight up answer. Don't need details, but, does your roadmap include the shutting down of Legacy databases?
Whether that be in the next few days or 10+ years? Just a yes or no!
 
I was thinking, the one "good" thing about this whole legacy/live version nonsense.is that it makes it easier to frame our pleas and demands to Frontier's hearts and wallets that they, "Release Elite Dangerous Live on Next Gen consoles!"

We can make it a banner and slap it anywhere their and Elite players ' eyes may land, rather than having to ask for the full game with Odyssey or version 4.0 etc (particularly once that version is patched and become 5.0 etc!).

(While of course not only releasing "love" mode and the game natively on PS5 and Series X, but also optimising it so it'll run on lower end PCs and MAYBE "God" forbid, on "last gen" consoles, even if it's only in a limited capacity, if at all!)

So again, say it, CHANT it after me, "Release Elite Dangerous Live on Next Gen consoles!" 😯😂😀🤘
 
forcing more players to migrate to Horizons 4.0 now, as there will be no livery migration after U14
Well … I would assume that most players that haven’t switched to H4 or bought Odyssey yet will instead just quit. I know I have, and there will have to be some very substantial improvements to the Odyssey code base for me to consider flying again.
The devs for EDSM, Inara, EDDB, Jegin, etc, etc, now have 6 days to figure out how to either filter out the "Legacy" data, or somehow sensibly store both copies, and get their sites updated for it.
Oh don’t worry. Frontier has given some™ 3ʳᵈ party developers a 24h advance warning with no additional information. And AFAIK haven’t answered any questions that were directed at them after.

So everything will be just fine.
 
@ Bruce: So, how do i decomission my FC now, get the 5bn and then transfer my account from PS4 to PC to have my assets transfered over in time? Planned decomissioning takes roughly six days, the 29. is only 5 days to go. Also, there are a lot of rare goods stored on my carrier with no way to trade them to friends. Is there any possibility to transfer those over to a new PC account with the transfer?

I do understand that this step had to be made eventually but the timing of the accouncement is not great.
 
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