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Significant, but not quite sufficient. But if you don't experience such significant slowdown, then you will be able to stop no problem.So you're saying it needs to be something like "EXPERIENCING SIGNIFICANT SLOWDOWN"?
Ozric
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The wording is a separate issue, but it doesn't change the fact that the message always means the same thing. There aren't two uses.
It is sufficient. Fly towards a station in the middle of the Blue Zone. You will still get the message, but you don't need to slow down any more to safely reach and drop out at your destination.Significant, but not quite sufficient. But if you don't experience such significant slowdown, then you will be able to stop no problem.
Just to add to the confusion: you get the "Gravity well" (previously "Slow down") message when you're in the middle of nowhere, in totally flat space, approaching a signal source at 7 seconds (or a fleet carrier, station), throttle in blue zone, and unlock, then lock again the target. What gravity well? Where? 
"Overspeed" would be the technically correct warning message
"Overspeed" would be the technically correct warning message
Never flown a vulture more than 5 minutes or so. Would def recommend the Chieftain.
But if you want to try the Vulture, go for no shield, whatever Enhanced AX Weapons you can fit, burst lasers in the size 1 hard points. As much armor and hull as possible but make sure to bring decon and repair limpet controllers and a small cargo rack, 8 or 16 if possible, and don't forget your limpets. Not sure how well it will work though.
Unengineered Chieftain fighting scouts looks like this...(pre Odyssey)
The Vulture has no S1 hardpoints. It has two S3 ones.
Incorrect. You won't get the message unless you are flying too fast, in which case the 'slowdown' warning (the deceleration you experience) does not make sense, because your problem will be the opposite of that (insufficient deceleration, the fact that you are too fast, not that you are slowing down).
You can happily fly around in multiple gravity wells without a single 'Gravity Well' message.
They want to kill Scouts only. Any ship can kill Scouts, including the Hauler with its single c1 hardpoint.
I fight Cyclops interceptors in my AX Hauler!
Yeah, found out last night
My experience agrees with this interpretation...
Going too fast. IE: caught by the gravity well and speeding up uncontrollably. Which is what causes overshooting destination, which leads to the loop of shame.
I would suspect it's like a leaky valve in a water pipe system where shutting off a valve somewhere down the line fixes it but then someone comes along and adds a new branch behind the shut off valve that causes the leaky valve to become reattached to the faucet thus the problem reappears. If that makes sense as an analogy putting aside the practical issues with it? In other words, they track a bug down to a portion code they think is causing it but then find out that the bug is at a lower level than they thought and only find out when something changes at that lower level that circumvents the higher level patch that was applied to fix it.
That sounds pretty cool, I may have to build one!
i arrived at the conclusion that those are the (invisible) asteroid belts
Ozric
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OK, that's not what is happening though
As I said in my first reply, the message indicates that you are experiencing a slow down effect because your FSD is unable to function optimally. You certainly don't speed up uncontrollably, the engine whine is from the FSD trying to compensate for the gravity well that is affecting you.
The FSD works out from the distance of your target what speed you can accelerate to before it needs to slow to get you safely to your destination. Any external gravity influences during either of those phases will have an effect.
Also there's no such thing as the Loop of Shame
it's faster than approaching at 6 seconds, or in the Blue Zone, or using SCA Ozric
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Just to add to the confusion: you get the "Gravity well" (previously "Slow down") message when you're in the middle of nowhere, in totally flat space, approaching a signal source at 7 seconds (or a fleet carrier, station), throttle in blue zone, and unlock, then lock again the target. What gravity well? Where?
"Overspeed" would be the technically correct warning message
Yes they're Asteroid Clusters, or Comets.i arrived at the conclusion that those are the (invisible) asteroid belts
Asteroid clusters are another reason to fly at a 45 degree angle to the orbital plane of the system for a while to get above/below it. Not only does it get you out of the shipping lane and less easy for interdictors, but it avoids the clusters slowing you down.
Yeah, precisely. And there's another typical case when the station is near a planet, you are approaching it too fast, so you get the "Gravity Well" message, you thottle down to no avail, but when you deselect the station, you all of a sudden become capable of slowing down. Re-select station, no "Gravity Well" message anymore, pure magic.Just to add to the confusion: you get the "Gravity well" (previously "Slow down") message when you're in the middle of nowhere, in totally flat space, approaching a signal source at 7 seconds (or a fleet carrier, station), throttle in blue zone, and unlock, then lock again the target. What gravity well? Where?
"Overspeed" would be the technically correct warning message
I gave up on pointing that out when people use the phrase.Also there's no such thing as the Loop of Shame
No, what you actually experience in these cases is the lack of a sufficiently strong slowdown effect that could, you know, slow you down to the required speed.
It's not slowing you down enough, that's why you will overshoot your destination if you cannot find another way to slow yourself down. Like, for example, deselecting the station you want to reach, in which case your FSD might magically learn how to "function optimally" in order to decelerate you very quickly.