Hardware & Technical Users System Specs

Rog

Rog
rab said:
They can report the wrong speeds at times, sometimes your CPU and GPU will get detected at there idle or 2d clock speeds in stead of full load speeds, and I think with the RAM it can get detected at the rated speed of the ram instead of it's actual speed it is running at.

Also as Rog (love the name btw, Trapdoor fan?)asked what are people doing for the Passmark test running the full test or just the GPU test?
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Yes, a big Trapdoor fan many, many years ago, but had forgotten about Rogg.

Wiki: "Rogg is a large pink-skinned creature, who initially appears in the fourth episode of the first series ("Lurkings"); unintelligent, but well-disposed to Berk, and later his friend."

Sounds about right! (It also happens to be my name :) )
 

Pyros

P
Asp Explorer said:
Oh, I quite agree. No wanger-waving was intended, merely curiosity. My hardware is average at best, many people have scores much greater than mine, and I don't overclock as it reduces stability. The reason I mentioned it is because some of these benchmarks are simply wrong.

My RAM is detected and listed by some of these programs at 667MHz. Others at 800MHz. GPU and PC have 0 RAM available to them in some. There is simply no consistency, even between benchmarks on the same hardware.

I work on big iron - and that simply would not stand in the mainframe world. If someone has paid X amount of $ for Y amount of performance, and they don't get it - absolutely all hell breaks loose. It can be very awkward for all parties.

It's just simply staggering that people will put such weight behind benchmarks, and indeed buy hardware on their results, yet those very benchmarks get so many things wrong.
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Well, there are reasons for that. Starting by the much lower equipement cost than big iron - and far greater types of equipment.

SW use the motherboard sensors or what the BIOS tells them to many of those readings, and the sensors can be of a lower quality and they also are quite diverse. So getting a wrong reading is not uncommon (e.g. my Heaven benchmark tells me that my GPU is running at a little bit over 68k celcius :rolleyes:)

But usually HW monitoring SW gets most things about the HW right, and benchmark SW gets the performance of the stuff right, but neither is stellar when it comes to messing in other type of SW turf.

That said, fact is that there are many different things to report, and sometimes they are a bit confusing. RAM speed, for example. You can have the actual running speed or the stored profiles running speeds - the later usually are quite a few profiles, depending on whether we are talking about JEDEC aproved specs or XMPs (I think my kit has 5 resident profiles). And the running speed can be measured in electrical frequency, data frequency (DDR3 has a 2 signal per clock) or bandwidth. And then there are things that have variable frequencies, according to workloads and/or temperature.

Yep it is a bit messy :p
 

Void Sun

Void Sun
OK just for interest of anyone running the heaven benchmark. I have clarified the settings comment in the spread sheet so it's obvious you are to turn tessellation off and also vsync. It was on on mine and capping the performance at 50fps at the set resolution giving approx 1250 after turning it off I got over 6200. This should allow more comparative testing.

Also I used the default Performance test on 3DMark11 giving a P score.

No over-clocking applied yet everything is stock. Hoping we get a wide enough range of options so that medium kit can be supported but at the top end they can push high specification gaming rigs. :cool:
 

Asp Explorer

Asp Explorer
Void Sun said:
OK just for interest of anyone running the heaven benchmark. I have clarified the settings comment in the spread sheet so it's obvious you are to turn tessellation off and also vsync. It was on on mine and capping the performance at 50fps at the set resolution giving approx 1250 after turning it off I got over 6200. This should allow more comparative testing.

Also I used the default Performance test on 3DMark11 giving a P score.

No over-clocking applied yet everything is stock. Hoping we get a wide enough range of options so that medium kit can be supported but at the top end they can push high specification gaming rigs. :cool:
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The problem with Vsync is that on flat-panels, it looks awful when disabled. Tearing aplenty. It was much better on old CRT's, but modern flat screens do all sorts of gubbins inside independent of Vsync. Your PC can be putting out a constant 60 FPS, your screen updates at 60 FPS, but you can still get crap, artefacts and tearing depending on the internal processor - which can vary amongst individual products in the same line. Dell 2208's- I'm looking at you.

All very annoying :(
 

rab

R
Rog said:
Yes, a big Trapdoor fan many, many years ago, but had forgotten about Rogg.

Wiki: "Rogg is a large pink-skinned creature, who initially appears in the fourth episode of the first series ("Lurkings"); unintelligent, but well-disposed to Berk, and later his friend."

Sounds about right! (It also happens to be my name :) )
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Nice 1 :D got all of the Trapdoor episodes on DVD most of the Danger Mouse and all of the Count Ducula episodes as well.

Kids TV was so much better in the early 80s lol
 

j6wbs

j6wbs
RE: User System Specs

Would it be useful if we collected some other stats too in the spreadsheet.
Apart from CPU, GPU and details of Memory, it might be interesting to benchmark Network and Disk too (rather than just in the Notes section). e.g.
- Disk manufacturer
- Disk read/write performance
- SSD vs HDD

- Network card manufacturer
- Routers/Switches/ISPs between your Cobra and the Frontier servers
- MBits/sec down/up
- latency/lag benchmarks

Any ideas for a decent benchmark app for those stats?

Cheers

Jez
P.S (with a 3DMark11 score of P2783 I'm gonna have to think of a GPU to purchase that can get 3 times the speed as it looks like I'm only just at minimum spec on that bit! (the rest seems fine though))
P.P.S. Thanks to John et al, for the spreadsheet and the entertaining podcast.
 

FS3DPete

F
I'm beginning to wonder now if the minimum requirements for 4 cores on the game side of things might hamstring people with FX-series AMD CPU's? The problem is that AMD took the step of giving them 4 integer cores (for the FX-4 series) but 2 execution modules (with each module housing 2 integer cores and 1 floating-point processor, plus shared cache between the two integer cores).

So if the game relies heavily on floating point maths, then it could be a problem for AMD users with FX-series CPU's (unless they happen to have FX-8 series units).

I ran across this issue with my 3D rendering setup on the CPU. It performed slightly worse (equipped with an FX-4170@4.2GHz) than my old Intel Core2Quad 6600 at 2.66GHz, precisely because there were only two FP execution units as opposed to the four on the Intel chip. Games that do not rely on FP features with the CPU are of course not a problem (and I think that's most of them).
 

tedawk

T
JohnStabler said:
With the announcement of minimum specs for alpha, I thought it a good idea to start a public document to capture people's system specs and their results (FPS).

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Akgw_h4nLN3DdGNBMTRSUUF6UWdGNWJrZjgyTTlibWc&usp=sharing

Obviously FD will do their own spec data gathering, but this document should serve as a resource for other players looking to compare specs with game performance.

Feel free to add your specs and then update as you get results from alpha/beta/gamma.
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Many thanks for this and for everyone else who took part in this thread. I am a laptop user and my current laptop is woefully inadequate for taking part in the alpha I thought my major problem would be broadband speed, It's still a problem living in the wilds of West Dorset but I have been able to combine the purchase with the need for a second Windows 7 Professional machine so I can archive my extensive Dos and 16 bit application software. So my choice is a refurb but with manufacturers warranty of a current Alienware 17 which I have bought and now the worrying waiting period until it arrives and is shown to work -----

Tom Dawkins
 

breakpointUK

breakpointUK
my current desktop is:-
Processor AMD A8-3800 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics (4 CPUs), ~2.4GHz
Memory 12288MB RAM
Hard Drive 2 TB Total
Video Card NVIDIA GeForce GT 530 2GB

(hopefully) this will serve me through Alpha and Betas, I then plan to spend about 2k on a new pc and monitor (suggestions?) ... for Gamma and beyond. Using my current pc and monitor as an alt.
 
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Cmdr Sharky

Cmdr Sharky
Here's the spec for the new laptop I just ordered yesterday:
Chassis & Display
Vortex Series: 17.3" Matte Full HD LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Mobile Processor i7-4800MQ (2.70GHz) 6MB
Memory (RAM)
16GB KINGSTON HYPER-X GENESIS 1600MHz SODIMM DDR3 (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
2 x NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 780M - 4.0GB DDR5 Video RAM - DirectX® 11
Memory - 1st Hard Disk
1TB SEAGATE HYBRID GEN3 SSHD Drive, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (5400 rpm)
2nd Hard Disk
1TB SEAGATE HYBRID GEN3 SSHD Drive, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (5400 rpm)
1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
6x BLURAY ROM, 8x DVD ±R/±RW & CYBERLINK SOFTWARE
Sound Card
Intel 5.1 Channel High Definition Audio + SPDIF/MIC/Headphone Jack
Wireless/Wired Networking
GIGABIT LAN & KILLER™ 1202 WIRELESS GAMING 802.11N + BLUETOOTH 4.0
Battery
Vortex Elite 8 Cell Lithium Ion Battery (5,800 mAh/89.21WH)
Operating System
Genuine Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit w/SP1 - inc DVD & Licence

withnail said:
Go to the review section of the PC specialist website and check out the Vortex IV. This is what I bought and it should be more than enough (well I hope so, anyway!)
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Just noticed this recommendation. Good to have confirmation. Everyone knows that things with more 'X'es in their names are more awexome.
 
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Cmdr Sharky

Cmdr Sharky
Got my new rig now! It scores 7.9 for graphics in the Windows Experience Index, which is the highest rating there is. Only the hard drive lets it down with 5.9.
 

Steph

Steph
75-80 fps while watching the ships fly around in the last scenario (highest detail level, 1920x1080). Added to the sheet.
 

Warp

Warp
Processor : AMD Phenom II X4 965e @ 3400 MHz (OC to 3800 )
Physical Memory : Corsair Vengeance Blue 8 GB (2X4 GB)
Video Card : Radeon XFX 7870 ( soon to be crossfire )
Hard Disk : Western Digital 1TB 7200 RPM 64mb Cache SATA 6gb/s (Black)
Monitor Type : Acer S200HL - 20 inches ( 1600x900 )
Operating System : Windows 7 Professional (64-bit)

Might be upgrading Processor in time and I'm happy with 1600x900 resolution ( for now anyway )
 
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Zieman

Zieman
RichardVoorhees said:
New rig:

Intel Core i7 4770K ~4.5ghz

16gb Kingston HyperX Beast RAM ~2400mhz

EVGA GeForce GTX780Ti superclocked

Samsung 120gb SSD

Seagate Barracuda 2TB HDD
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Like I said in another thread: Killer Rig! :D

And you can count yourself lucky, if your system is stable with those CPU & RAM clocks, especially together. I couldn't get more than 4.2 GHz from my 4770K without serious heat and stability problems.
OTOH, I feel lucky to have the same RAM as you, my system's stable w/ 4.2 GHz & 2400 MHz :).
I do feel a slight stab of envy, I couldn't stretch my budget to GTX 780 Ti, had to settle to one without the Ti. :)
 
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