[Video] January update, was this what we ASKED?! & Fleet carrier delay...

Rules exist for selective enforcement, to allow a justifiable way to weed out undesirables.
Laws are little different. Just look at the number of celebrities serving time for their crimes, often the subject of extensive media coverage.
Look at politicians and see the same.

Its how society works.

Not to say it's good, just real.

The biased moderation thing comes up a lot as its a favourite of sub-species of forumite like the forum undead and the compulsory-pvp-types. However they tend to be more than a little angry about the game which means they chuck name calling into the mix far more frequently, so the bias is actually in the offending not the enforcement.
 
The biased moderation thing comes up a lot as its a favourite of sub-species of forumite like the forum undead and the compulsory-pvp-types. However they tend to be more than a little angry about the game which means they chuck name calling into the mix far more frequently, so the bias is actually in the offending not the enforcement.
Im glad you mentioned "compulsory-pvp-types", as the only thing this thread lacks is an "Open Only" story arc
 
"Gamebreaking" stuttering doesn't really match up with the descriptions given by those who experienced it.

it warranted an immediate hotfix, a rare ocurrence in 5 years, which makes your perception of those descriptions kinda moot.
 
it warranted an immediate hotfix, a rare ocurrence in 5 years, which makes your perception of those descriptions kinda moot.

I can't think of an ED patch that wasn't quickly hotfixed TBH, since my internets so bad the hotfix generally resets the still unfinished download (more than once sometimes) I tend to notice them.

It also means other people do all the patch playtesting before I show up in game, which may be a factor in my completely blasé approach to the supposedly dreadful "problem" of new patch bugs.
 
it warranted an immediate hotfix, a rare ocurrence in 5 years, which makes your perception of those descriptions kinda moot.
How does that render anything moot? My perception is based on the descriptions given by those who experienced the issue, not from an assumption based on how quickly a fix was deployed.

It was entirely a client-side update, the servers didn't even have to go down.
 
How does that render anything moot? My perception is based on the descriptions given by those who experienced the issue, not from an assumption based on how quickly a fix was deployed.

in that the severity of a bug is already clearly obvious when it becomes the sole reason of an urgent hotfix? but don't be alarmed! you are entitled to you colorful opinions and feelings! they just don't mean squat in the issue. 🤪
 
in that the severity of a bug is already clearly obvious when it becomes the sole reason of an urgent hotfix? but don't be alarmed! you are entitled to you colorful opinions and feelings! they just don't mean squat in the issue. 🤪

Is an easily and quickly fixed bug ever a severe one ?.
 
The biased moderation thing comes up a lot as its a favourite of sub-species of forumite like the forum undead and the compulsory-pvp-types. However they tend to be more than a little angry about the game which means they chuck name calling into the mix far more frequently, so the bias is actually in the offending not the enforcement.
I believe the correct term, though sometimes considered distasteful, is "foron", and yes. It is a popular rallying cry, especially among the offenders. Doesn't make it any less fun to poke fun at though.
 
Never satisfied.

Get all feisty and cause a ruckus.

Get what you wanted, then complain....

Who saw this coming?
Well we surely didn't want a patch that broke more things up than they were allready.

You guys obviously don't play much bgs do you?

'Cause by the end of this week-end, hundreds of complaints will be put in tickets because the mechanics are either upside down or just out the door. CZ's are f kd and for many of us who were waiting on today for the start of long awaited and/or important conflict but now they stopped working.

Navlock isn't working for shhhh, at least 4 times out 5 so far for us.

I'm not even scratching the surface,,,

Man this is not people complaining like spoiled kids...some of us are just saying simply: it's nonsense and borderline an outrage.
 
in that the severity of a bug is already clearly obvious when it becomes the sole reason of an urgent hotfix? but don't be alarmed! you are entitled to you colorful opinions and feelings! they just don't mean squat in the issue. 🤪
You're making wild assumptions contrary to existing information.

Equating a fast fix to a critical one is fairly illogical, since it would be much more reasonable to just assume it was a minor change required - which, considering it was a change that didn't even disrupt the servers, it was.
 
But when some posters decide to close a thread by filling it with rubbish, the thread gets moderated instead of the posters who are breaking the rules. This is not how its supposed to work, why bother having the rules? I accept that combing the forum removing posts one by one would be a heavy task. Ill say no more.
It's usually not a single poster or a group of likeminded posters (if such a thing even exists) that derails a thread, but both sides of an argument which get either silly and / or circular. So if you would moderate them you would quickly moderate the entire forums. They are also the only reason +10 pages threads even exist, usually everything that needs to or can be said gets posted on the first two pages. Everything after that is just forum PvP and jokes.

So there is not much point in moderating the posters (as long as they don't insult someone etc.) because that would result in the same outcome like closing the thread. When mods remind us to stay on topic it's also pretty pointless because it will only last for 5 posts (thanks for trying though!).

I've never seen anything good coming out of +10 pages threads. Apart from the humour of course.
 
Well we surely didn't want a patch that broke more things up than they were allready.

You guys obviously don't play much bgs do you?

'Cause by the end of this week-end, hundreds of complaints will be put in tickets because the mechanics are either upside down or just out the door. CZ's are f kd and for many of us who were waiting on today for the start of long awaited and/or important conflict but now they stopped working.

Navlock isn't working for shhhh, at least 4 times out 5 so far for us.

I'm not even scratching the surface,,,

Man this is not people complaining like spoiled kids...some of us are just saying simply: it's nonsense and borderline an outrage.

Any change to the BGS creates a storm of complaining about it being broken, it then calms down after people get talked through exactly how to adapt to the changes by the players who just try a different approach because they understand its different and not broken.

Happens every time they tweak it.

Outrage my ARX.
 
Is an easily and quickly fixed bug ever a severe one ?.

when frontier sends calming messages on all social platforms commiting to an unplanned release next day it definitely is for them.

there's something going on beneath all these semantics you might not be considering (or are actually trying to cover up with them? 😈). do you think frontier are happy having to do that? or would they have preferred to have avoided the risk and save that optimization for later, or cycle it through the (sacrosant) beta machine properly? either option would have completely avoided this patch and, behold, with zero delay. actually, not doing so means more delay, it costs them money and it hurts their product. not rocket science. so something is definitely not working properly here.
 
when frontier sends calming messages on all social platforms commiting to an unplanned release next day it definitely is for them.

Calming messages are intended to sooth the intended recipients, they are of no significance at all to those who are already calm.

That sort of communication is directly proportional to the tantrum not the problem itself.

there's something going on beneath all these semantics you might not be considering (or are actually trying to cover up with them? 😈). do you think frontier are happy having to do that? or would they have preferred to have avoided the risk and save that optimization for later, or cycle it through the (sacrosant) beta machine properly? either option would have completely avoided this patch and, behold, with zero delay. actually, not doing so means more delay, it costs them money and it hurts their product. not rocket science. so something is definitely not working properly here.

I think they have no evil nefarious hidden purpose. They just make video games for a living. Identifying and patching a minor release bug following a patch is a routine part of their job so not a big deal, it probably raises no more than the odd sigh or possibly a stroppy internal e-mail and some giggling at all the faux outrage on the forum.

But then I would say that since I'm in league with Satan himself.
 
Any change to the BGS creates a storm of complaining about it being broken, it then calms down after people get talked through exactly how to adapt to the changes by the players who just try a different approach because they understand its different and not broken.

Happens every time they tweak it.

Outrage my ARX.
It's not "different". It is NOT working...quite different.
 
So, not intending to watch the video, am I right to assume Yamiks thanked Frontier for focusing on fixing bugs while delaying new content, as the rag he co-signed demanded?
You can assume what you want, nobody watched the video. Personally I think it's about cockpit cats.
 
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