Thing is, at this point this comment is also a meme.
Wake up for the Devs
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I was waiting for this thread for a while, scanning the forums waiting for someone to make a whining post. Well done OP.
What exactly has the number of NMS players got to do with Elite? Are we in competition? Is this the semi final and the winner will go onto the grand final? Who cares? Is there a finite number of space game players? Why did you not compare Elite with GTA V or some other game? Etc etc
What exactly has the number of NMS players got to do with Elite? Are we in competition? Is this the semi final and the winner will go onto the grand final? Who cares? Is there a finite number of space game players? Why did you not compare Elite with GTA V or some other game? Etc etc
I get your point @d8veh. Unfortunately in this forum it will just be fodder for the LOL-brigade.
PS: I see they're out in force already.
So what
Is that even vaguely important?
(I have NMS, I've probably played 4 hours of it this year)
Well, ehhhh, maybe not that one. Dead on arrival. The forum theme for it is decent though so we got something of worth out of it.
whatever the number is, or isnt, the Steam #s are still down.
Alright, that's enough of that talk, back into Supercruise with you.
or just add more stuff to do in Elite.Ah, but you know what has 40x as many players as Nomunsky?
CS:GO.
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So what Frontier should actually do is remove all ship- and SRV-based gameplay, and focus on turning ED into a highly competitive [anti-]terrorism team-based first-person shooter in limited closed-off maps. After that, your beloved Steam charts should go
I just heard that NMS will be released for all modern Apple devices, including the iPad. Multiplayer will commect all plarforms. Also, they're developing it for Playstaion VR2 as a free extension. It already has quite a good VR version for PC. Since the beginning of the game in 2016, every update has been free, and no need to buy appearance changer, etc. They're all free too.
All these things ae sadly lacking from ED I'm still wondering if the devs are working on ED" to have all these things after finding it too tricky for the current versions
All these things ae sadly lacking from ED I'm still wondering if the devs are working on ED" to have all these things after finding it too tricky for the current versions
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I’ve played a decent bit of it (about 30 hours). It’s entirely a different game than Elite. It’s a planet-hopping game where the ships get you from point a to point b, and the actual flying isn’t particularly enjoyable. Glorified fast travel, essentially, to get you to what the game does pretty well.So what
Is that even vaguely important?
(I have NMS, I've probably played 4 hours of it this year)
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I wonder if Frontier can transfer my ED profile to NMS?
If your contribution to something is basically "you're doing stuff wrong and I'm not going to provide anything constructive on how it could be better" then sorry, best you can expect is ridicule.
FDev have already said they're working on adding stuff. The thread is based on a whinge, nothing more.
Anyway...
Overall I have played around 200 hours since 2017, with it dropping off as I started to play ED more. I go back and look at the expansions, but it doesn't appeal quite so much these days, despite the imagination put into it by Hello Games. But, as you mentioned, it does things pretty well, even its VR implementation has improved over the first revision, so not a bad game, just not as engaging for me as it was.
Don't look to NMS for engaging gameplay... or a space game for that matter.
The numbers are what they are, but context is important. If you look at the chart over the last three months, NMS and ED enjoyed similar numbers. It is only very recently that NMS numbers exploded. What changed? It is obviously the new perma-death expedition that NMS has released. As the numbers show, it has been well-received, to say the least. There is a lesson here for FDev: getting imaginative with in-game content can be a gamble that pays off big. I am hoping that the major narrative phase in August does the same for Odyssey.
I have always found it striking that even with all the fallout from the Odyssey launch debacle, Elite was still maintaining population parity with the better received NMS! There remains a core strength to Elite that even the infamous launch of Odyssey can't tarnish. If FDev keeps their nose to the grindstone and continues to improve the core Odyssey experience (as they indicate they will do through early 2023 at a minimum), I still believe Odyssey will prove to be a net positive for the game (it's not yet, obviously, but could be). I think what is hurting the game the most at the moment is no longer the condition of Odyssey as much as the reputation of Frontier. They burned almost all their good will with the smash-and-grab that was the forced launch of Odyssey. Few trust them anymore, especially the old spacers who've been here since Horizon days. I think that sense of betrayal is what is hurting the franchise the most at the moment. That is the real lesson that FDev needs to learn.
I have always found it striking that even with all the fallout from the Odyssey launch debacle, Elite was still maintaining population parity with the better received NMS! There remains a core strength to Elite that even the infamous launch of Odyssey can't tarnish. If FDev keeps their nose to the grindstone and continues to improve the core Odyssey experience (as they indicate they will do through early 2023 at a minimum), I still believe Odyssey will prove to be a net positive for the game (it's not yet, obviously, but could be). I think what is hurting the game the most at the moment is no longer the condition of Odyssey as much as the reputation of Frontier. They burned almost all their good will with the smash-and-grab that was the forced launch of Odyssey. Few trust them anymore, especially the old spacers who've been here since Horizon days. I think that sense of betrayal is what is hurting the franchise the most at the moment. That is the real lesson that FDev needs to learn.
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If NMS does everything you want, why don't you just play NMS?
If NMS does everything you want but you still prefer Elite, maybe everything you want is not that important?
Or you just want some things from NMS and others from Elite, well it appears like NMS doesn't do everything you want either, so why don't you ask them?
What exactly is your advice here? Make better updates FDEV? Well I guess they are trying.
Be a different developer? I guess it's easier to find another game than turning FDEV into a different developer...
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