War in Colonia?

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@fishevi


/Roleplay off/
Great answer - we both will have content then and fun in game ;-)
/Roleplay on/

We are not the police! We are a player-driven Special-Unit doing all methods of Advanced Tactical Response.

We will identify and find all kinds of terrorists and bring them down.

If you open fire after being interdicted as announced, you have to take the consequences.

Ok. No roleplaying on and off here.
So no bounties or fines on me. Fairly new player. Not associated with anyone before in Elite. Now member of LR's. Don't attack any players first, ever.

I have a question: what makes me a terrorist?

I can see how we can be enemies in game, that's all good.
But why are you calling me a terrorist?! That is a strong offensive word, especially in 21st century.

Just to se if I got it right:
So i don't submit to you guys in game and you are declaring me terrorist and calling me terrorist?! On official game forum?!

Roleplaying is for in-game and people who bought game and choose a way to play it.
This is an open source forum allowed for anyone who has access to internet and browser to read and write.
So again: you are calling me a terrorist because i dont play the way you like? Or i will become terrorist if i don't submit?

Choose your next words carefully ;)

carcosa is anarchy
watch your 6 guys
anarchy can be dangerous...

in non anarchy systems @BHARD99 explained perfectly the actuel RoE

@fishevi people writing in that style are normally they ones who beg doughnut cops for not getting a ticket after wrong parking. looking forward to meet you in game strong man... ⚔

So @Tebori,about RoE, whose rules are those? Official Frontier rules? Or your rules? And if i dont play by your RoE? Then what? You will bully me?!

About me and cops, you calling me a liar? We know each other in real life? You can read it from my posts?!
I'm Croatian you know? From Croatia. U know any? If u check our few thousand years old history, you can see that conflict is not something we run from, ever. We defended Europe from Osman Empire for more than 500 years. So its not in our nature to pretend to be tough. We are tough.
Just check out Croatian athletes. Can you find any country with smaller population(now in Croatia less than 4m) and bigger achievements in sport? There isn't any, statistically we are the best athletes in the world, feel free to prove me wrong(good luck with that).
And sport is all about competing (fighting) against others.

So yeah, I'm a strong man, strong in character and my spine is like a centuries old oak, you cannot break it. You can chop it down with axe(kill me) but you can't break it(me).
And btw, i don't get parking tickets, i obey (some) real life RoE because i respect others and their rights to live, play or think differently than me.
Do you(spear) respect different opinions, gameplays etc.?
As I read on forum so far, not much.
And it seems some other cmdrs already prove some spear lies here on forum. Can you prove me wrong?
I challenge you.
What can u say about your(spear) character and your(spear) spine?
As i read on forum so far, not much...
 
to make things clear when spear writes terrorists or terrorist ALWAYS role playing terrorist is meant related to game context.

forum and social media are a bad source to get an impression about spear
we are used to it though that the gamers who constantly enjoy playerkilling on civilians are writing their propaganda.
if someone really wants to see it we offer always tele presence when we do our patrol tasks.
we have nothing to hide. people who used this offer very often had an "aha" effect - german slang for oh ok i see now who tells truth and who dont.

one of the main ethics for us is
with great power comes great responsibility.
your friendly atr agent from the neighbourhood ;)
 
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correct its worse
in both named systems there was no population mobbed and bullied out before!

If you would know the history before we liberated and turned over the system to it's rightful owners you would know that you just spew non-sense. The Nameless are the only native faction and the whole system was setup by FDev themselves. There was nobody else beside them in Carcosa. FDev even expanded The Nameless by hands of God to Union and EEF. Carcosa, Nameless, Lava world, the list goes on and on, start reading some H.P. Lovecraft and maybe you understand why Micheal Brookes did what he did. Just reading Ian's wonderful guide to Colonia should give you enough to wonder if you are on the right side of history.
Also thanks to confirm what we knew already, SEEP/EN is again just hiding and playing games. It seems the mutual agreement was never uphold by them, opposite to us. We honored the agreement even during the time their goon squad attacked us.
You are the bullies and you support the nebula bullies. Your actions also embolden the other nebula bully to advance their agenda to take over more of the nebula. SPEAR will be directly responsible for making Colonia into the bubble 2.0. Be proud of yourself to defy the will and undue the work done for years by the people who oppose these bullies. We joined that group after we liberated Carcosa.


playerkilling on civilians
RP off
Wth, does that even mean? That sounds right out of the playbook of American police.
RP on
 
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People of Colonia! The situation is dire. In this great hour of need our stalwart defenders of freedom (and faction ships) need all the help they can get. Make your contribution at the CERF office in Dove Enigma today!

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we have nothing to hide.
Ah, that's why you're so good at answering questions.
@TEBORI will you actually give us a reason for your repeated aggression against The Nameless? For all your trash talk on here neither you nor anyone else on your side have explained why you have spent six months attacking us or failed to make any attempt at beginning a dialogue to end the conflict, unless you are nothing but the tyrannical bullies I suspect you of being would you care to explain?
I guess
So in other words you can't, you're blustering and flailing but even after over six months of sustained aggression you can't even come up with one solitary reason to justify your bullying. Let the galaxy see and take note of exactly the kind of brigands, thugs and murderers SPEAR and their CIDE paymasters truly are.
But not that one.
I'm asking a perfectly reasonable question to you and/or anyone in a leadership position on your side, just in case you're struggling with it I will state it very clearly again - why are you attacking The Nameless and why have you made no effort whatsoever to find a peaceful solution to this conflict? It's a very simple question and anyone who has even a shred of reason or honour would answer it, yet you won't thus proving you have neither.
Dodging.
@BHARD99 since @TEBORI refuses to give a simple answer to a simple question I will see if you can be more reasonable. Can you explain to me why CIDE and their SPEAR lapdogs have launched their campaign of aggression against The Nameless and why, in all that time there has been no attempt made whatsoever to find a peaceful solution to this conflict?
Ducking.
@BHARD99 are any of you ever going to answer a perfectly clear, simple and reasonable question?
Deflecting.
@TEBORI you've had around 24 hours now, have you managed to come up with any shred of an explanation to excuse your unprovoked attacks?
Deferring.
@TEBORI still waiting for a justification for your actions, getting rather tired of your bluster and obfuscation.
Boasting.
Thank you, you have just exposed your hypocrisy and bullying perfectly. Do not ever dare try and claim any moral high ground ever again.
Ignoring.
Still going to keep asking you
The approach of someone that has nothing to hide. Clearly.
we are used to it though that the gamers who constantly enjoy playerkilling on civilians are writing their propaganda.
Always easier to use some characteristic of your critics, real or imagined, to ignore what they have to say; than it is to address questions of accountability and responsibility. Slogans from comic book characters make nice aphorisms but aren't a solid basis an organisation's ethics.
 
Though I really must ask is there real ganker problem in Colonia, I haven't seen anything like such. So is the SPEAR's motivation some kind of powertrip or do they have REAL justification for their effort? As far as I have seen SPEAR guys have not given definite answer.

Well, their strategic mastermind said he'd talk about the goal once it has been achieved - which is a convenient way not to fail! I'll have to remember that.
 
@TEBORI I can't help but notice on your picture there seems to be something wrong with your eye. I looked a bit closer and have diagnosed a rare space worm, it flits about from side to side with a distinctive red colour.

It has a terrible effect on a person, first they lose their manners, start becoming aggressive and attacking innocent people. Next they stick closely to other Cmdr's, often in a wing, this is so the parasite can infect others more easily. Finally, and most seriously, it affects the troubled victims ability to answer the most basic and simple of questions.

I believe there is an antidote available only at the science and medical research centre at Hutton Orbital. It's in the bubble somewhere but being a Colonia native I don't know it. Quick, you must go there before this debilitating parasite completely destroys your entire cognitive function.

I fear it may be too late already.
 
Though I really must ask is there real ganker problem in Colonia, I haven't seen anything like such. So is the SPEAR's motivation some kind of powertrip or do they have REAL justification for their effort? As far as I have seen SPEAR guys have not given definite answer.
Honestly, there's one ganker in Colonia who is currently in the bubble, and has been since well before spear arrived.

As has been discussed in the past, there is no benefit for Loren's Reapers to gank in Colonia as we are purely interested in maintaining our chosen faction. Certainly anyone coming into the system trading or dropping off exploration data is more than welcome as it's helping the faction.

As for why spear are here. Well, if you look back though the previous posts, I think there's an example of one of our guys saying some mean things about their guys. So the response is to gank anyone they choose in the nebula.

They haven't answered because there is no answer that a player minding their own business trying to play the game, such as yourself, would find rational. I will say that whilst we have a gank squad around, perhaps any high value data etc. is probably best dropped off in solo. Sad that I have to say that, but it is what it is.
 

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Though I really must ask is there real ganker problem in Colonia, I haven't seen anything like such. So is the SPEAR's motivation some kind of powertrip or do they have REAL justification for their effort? As far as I have seen SPEAR guys have not given definite answer.
If someone's goal is to gank do you think they'd spend more time around Shinrarta and Deciat, heavy footfall systems where they can quickly relocate to another system if it's a hotspot - e.g. a mining rush, OR out in Colonia where most footfall is the occasional explorer arriving in one system?
If you want an idea of the level of threat just look at the Inara security - no system sees enough attacks to get a high enough % to make it onto the system threat report, even with SPEAR there to make trouble https://inara.cz/reports-security/
There are very few gankers that spend much time in Colonia. Those that do will probably spend more of their time active on bubble accounts. Often when they're out Colonia way their priority won't be ganking. Engineer upgrades in Colonia didn't happen by magic but by cooperation of a number of people farming mats and grinding useless engineering. Plus, considering for a lot of people PvP is an end game activity, it shouldn't be surprising that some PvPers do a lot of exploration.
 
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to make things clear when spear writes terrorists or terrorist ALWAYS role playing terrorist is meant related to game context.

forum and social media are a bad source to get an impression about spear
we are used to it though that the gamers who constantly enjoy playerkilling on civilians are writing their propaganda.
if someone really wants to see it we offer always tele presence when we do our patrol tasks.
we have nothing to hide. people who used this offer very often had an "aha" effect - german slang for oh ok i see now who tells truth and who dont.

one of the main ethics for us is
with great power comes great responsibility.
your friendly atr agent from the neighbourhood ;)
You didn't read my post, right?! What, too many words?!
You didn't read/get part where i explain difference between game and forum.
No worries, i'll explain you in simpler words: game is for players who buy game,roleplaying in game.
Forum is for everyone, no roleplaying.

Moving on: when u called me out directly, i answered you. When i called you out,no answer. What, nothing to say? No arguments? Not even calling me a liar after all that self boosting, like first time? Or again, too many words?!
Moving on: To quote you:
"one of the main ethics for us is
with great power comes great responsibility"
You think you have great power?! Where? In game? On forum? Again, great power?! That sounds a bit delusional, don't you think?
You do know that that sort of thinking started WWll, right?!

Maybe that space worm got to you and there's no hope anymore...
 
We did have our fair share of annoying people out here. To me it was worst when SDC were around. No idea if SPEAR even existed then. They got bored and left. Same will happen with all those who do not really WANT to live here with all the shortcomings. We'll cope and carry on.
 
We did have our fair share of annoying people out here. To me it was worst when SDC were around. No idea if SPEAR even existed then. They got bored and left. Same will happen with all those who do not really WANT to live here with all the shortcomings. We'll cope and carry on.
we did exist just under a different name
sdc always were one of our main targets
 
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i am just curious about your performance in game
no more no less...
normally the loudest here are the most quiet in game
@fishevi
How do you measure in game performance? By ganking? Didn't do that. By killing other commanders? Didn't do that either. By Inara rank? #11264, what ever that means...
I am not the loudest here, and i am not the one who claims to have great power.
But i may be the loudest in your ears?!
Maybe part of you is recognizing my words as true and you dont like it?!
 
ou didn't read my post, right?! What, too many words?!
You didn't read/get part where i explain difference between game and forum.
No worries, i'll explain you in simpler words: game is for players who buy game,roleplaying in game.
Forum is for everyone, no roleplaying.

/roleplay off/ This is the lore & roleplay forum! Full stop! /roleplay on

SPEAR is here on a mission. Live with our way of playing the game or stay out of it.
If your choice is to attack - feel free to play any role you can imagine - we are doing the same. See you out there in the black.
 
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