War in Colonia?

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Dillon Fallon

Dillon Fallon
BHARD99 said:
To be honest - this is the first time SPEAR is sending me to a new A.T.R. outpost. I cannot forsee the development with "The Nameless"...
But I can promise you personally a ride on my carrier back to Colonia together with everything you will buy in the bubble. So may be in a month? Have to check which time I will be allowed to have a short leave in order to meet my family. I will keep you informed. (y)

Dear Pristine


I have to admit that our both platforms are somehow not compatibel - and so our way of life. I personally took your threat as a young and unexperienced PS4 Cmdr as you are with humor... But if you really want to check out something - you will find me on PS4 with the same name...
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That's nice.

We shall look forward to your arrival. When were you coming up? 12th of Never?
 

fishevi

fishevi
BHARD99 said:
😀 Your friendly A.T.R. daily advice:

- speeding is not a crime

but

- be aware of unexpected crimes-controls

In advance: we feel sorry for any inconvenience

Let‘s have a nice day in Colonia! 😎
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BHARD99 said:
Many thanks,sir! We are glad that somebody thinks also on us :)

But you have been misinformed. We came with full tanks. And even if some of our carriers will move away from time to time : SPEAR will stay in the nebula

But don't mind - a honorful trader & scientist like you are will never be harmed by us - this kind of misinformation is part of propaganda.

What SPEAR is doing on patrol:
  • scan ships whenever possible at stations, nav-beacons, CZ's etc.
  • compare the data with our wanted-lists and databases
  • interrupts ships in supercruise (if suspicious or other Cmdr's are in potential danger)

what we expect: people to give in the interruption and accepting the short kill-warrent-scan (KWS)
If SOMEONE has a high bounty on your head OR opens fire at the A.T.R. patrol --->>>> he or she will met the consequences
If you are clean ---->>>> we will wish you a good day! If you are in danger we might even give you protection.
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Ok, my stand on this:
I will NEVER submit to your inspections(or any other by any cmdr/squadron) , and any try to inspect/interdict me I will treat as an act of aggression on me, regardless of my clean and/or wanted level and I will react accordingly to my best abilities at the moment.

With that said, I will explain:
I will not be bullied in Elite by no one, never.
You guys can role play that you are galaxy police, I'm cool with that. But you cannot expect me to accept it just because you say so.
I role-played my game as an independent freelancer. And got bored a little. I had credits, ships, mats, but was missing content/reason to play. Then a fellow cmdr told me about The Nameless, LR's and their troubles and agendas in Colonia and I was like:"Hey, there's a content I'm missing." So I packed my stuff and moved to Colonia, joined LR's and made Rock my home. Found some nice people and I'm having fun with them.
Before few weeks ago I didn't know anything about all this, even now I dont know who is who here, who are leaders, about squadron treaties and such. Don't care about it.
So our role plays took us on opposite sides. That's ok with me. But statements like: "we expect to submit just because we say so and are role-playing like that" is bullying in my book.
Even in real life if real police is not doing their job properly, i don't cooperate. 20y ago I almost went behind bars because i didn't allow to be bullied by real police, which ended in a fight where i stripped policeman of his badge and gun and slapped him a bit (good times;)). Luckily for me, good lawyer and bad police work kept me out.

So you role-play your game, I will role-play mine, but don't sell me that"we are official game police" and expect me to bend over.
I don't do that. Ever. And I never will. Till my last breath. In Elite or in real life.
So my message to you guys is:
Source: https://youtu.be/EdytiYSt_mQ


*pay attention to lyrics ;)
 

Renraiku

Renraiku
fishevi said:
Ok, my stand on this:
I will NEVER submit to your inspections(or any other by any cmdr/squadron) , and any try to inspect/interdict me I will treat as an act of aggression on me, regardless of my clean and/or wanted level and I will react accordingly to my best abilities at the moment.

With that said, I will explain:
I will not be bullied in Elite by no one, never.
You guys can role play that you are galaxy police, I'm cool with that. But you cannot expect me to accept it just because you say so.
I role-played my game as an independent freelancer. And got bored a little. I had credits, ships, mats, but was missing content/reason to play. Then a fellow cmdr told me about The Nameless, LR's and their troubles and agendas in Colonia and I was like:"Hey, there's a content I'm missing." So I packed my stuff and moved to Colonia, joined LR's and made Rock my home. Found some nice people and I'm having fun with them.
Before few weeks ago I didn't know anything about all this, even now I dont know who is who here, who are leaders, about squadron treaties and such. Don't care about it.
So our role plays took us on opposite sides. That's ok with me. But statements like: "we expect to submit just because we say so and are role-playing like that" is bullying in my book.
Even in real life if real police is not doing their job properly, i don't cooperate. 20y ago I almost went behind bars because i didn't allow to be bullied by real police, which ended in a fight where i stripped policeman of his badge and gun and slapped him a bit (good times;)). Luckily for me, good lawyer and bad police work kept me out.

So you role-play your game, I will role-play mine, but don't sell me that"we are official game police" and expect me to bend over.
I don't do that. Ever. And I never will. Till my last breath. In Elite or in real life.
So my message to you guys is:
Source: https://youtu.be/EdytiYSt_mQ


*pay attention to lyrics ;)
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100% agree with you fishevi.

No one inspects me without my guns coming out.

The official police are too slow to scan me.

Your sorry lot haven't a hope in hell of policing anything.
 

fishevi

fishevi
Rat Catcher said:
They want you to treat it as an act of aggression... They are running gank squads in the nebula under the pretense of 'protection' - Didn't the Mafia offer the same 'protection' to citizens?
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And I'm ok with that. We are in-game enemies. All cool. They can play how ever they want. And i'll play how i want. But here on forum I don't buy that hypocrisy, that is something i don't like. Hence my posts.
 

Just Paul

Just Paul
Melanthes said:
Well, they certainly don't have the balls to oppose bigger groups like Civitas Dei.
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Then they are in perfect company, Civitas Dei doesn't attack equal or larger groups either. They always pick a smaller one to bully. Some even had to leave their home to escape their bullying tactics. Spear and CIDE seem like a perfect fit, likes attract likes.

BHARD99 said:
Many thanks,sir! We are glad that somebody thinks also on us :)

But you have been misinformed. We came with full tanks. And even if some of our carriers will move away from time to time : SPEAR will stay in the nebula

But don't mind - a honorful trader & scientist like you are will never be harmed by us - this kind of misinformation is part of propaganda.

What SPEAR is doing on patrol:
  • scan ships whenever possible at stations, nav-beacons, CZ's etc.
  • compare the data with our wanted-lists and databases
  • interrupts ships in supercruise (if suspicious or other Cmdr's are in potential danger)

what we expect: people to give in the interruption and accepting the short kill-warrent-scan (KWS)
If SOMEONE has a high bounty on your head OR opens fire at the A.T.R. patrol --->>>> he or she will met the consequences
If you are clean ---->>>> we will wish you a good day! If you are in danger we might even give you protection.
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Screemonster said:
"unexpected crimes-controls"

yes, when you're in a clean ship and haven't commited any crimes, I'd say getting shot down by "criminal enforcers" is pretty unexpected.
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Bigmaec said:
Cool. Gonna test this soon.
I paid off my last bounty on LRV Dagon, some 3.4 million from LTD piracy and am now completely clean.
Curious how this will work out for me in Carcosa.
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To all above. That doesn't work. I tried yesterday to sell some of the Tritium people sold me to @Fuego Estelar carrier, at a loss of 198k:cry:. It ended just as expected, my unarmed and barely engineered (5d shield and an e-rated RA booster) T-6 was shot at and harassed every time it came into SPEARs crosshairs. No comms or KWS scans, just plain old griefing. I got blown up after supposedly being let go, got rammed and shot at right in front of the station, plus interdicted on my run to get some more Tritium. Made it out of the interdiction thanks to @Sir Ganksalot training. So I paid their carrier a visit but ejected the Tritium into the void. Can somebody from SPEAR upload the picture from your out of game tool that shows my supposed crimes! I saw that you guys edited that part conveniently out from the other propaganda video then you griefed @NCFCpaul 3v1at our station.

Tharrn said:
I wonder if my engineered Cutter with a full rack of shield boosters (and no weapons) would hold against the terror squads.
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Probably, they had a tough time with my T-6 and that thing is not engineered.

Rat Catcher said:
They want you to treat it as an act of aggression... They are running gank squads in the nebula under the pretense of 'protection' - Didn't the Mafia offer the same 'protection' to citizens?
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Excactly, Mafia the whole lot. Running extortion rackets and even teamed up with the local mafia. It's almost like IRL. But the free people of Colonia, LR is a small part of them, will beat the intruders and local mafia like they always did. We fight for freedom from oppression and that Colonia stays Colonia and not become a bubble 2.0.
I still would recommend anybody who wants or feels like to have an Alliance or Federal ship in Colonia to do the purchase very soon. They are hellbent and are trying now from multiple bgs angles to remove that option from you. We know what you are trying to do, even Hansel couldn't leave bigger breadcrumbs.

Slange Lands said:
PvPers complaining about being interdicted is like elite ranked PvEers complaining about being blown up in Open.
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You should have found out by now that there are not many PvPers in Colonia. Then you guys arrived the PvP population increased by 1000%. Why do you think most leave as soon as they got the engineering squared away? Have fun shooting each other, as that's all you can do to get some PvP practice out here. That's why I'm still bottom tear scrub level in PvP, there is just nobody around to practice with.
 

BHARD99

BHARD99
@fishevi
fishevi said:
So you role-play your game, I will role-play mine, but don't sell me that"we are official game police" and expect me to bend over.
I don't do that. Ever. And I never will. Till my last breath. In Elite or in real life.
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/Roleplay off/
Great answer - we both will have content then and fun in game ;-)
/Roleplay on/

We are not the police! We are a player-driven Special-Unit doing all methods of Advanced Tactical Response.

We will identify and find all kinds of terrorists and bring them down.

If you open fire after being interdicted as announced, you have to take the consequences.
 

NCFCpaul

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It must be said Colonia is not SanTu or Shinrarta. In my experience PvP here is much less aggressive, normally consensual. Hang around Jaques and scan ships, nearly every single one is a heavily engineered explorer. Or miner. You see very few combat ships.

Since spear have appeared claiming to be bringing down terrorists violence has exploded. Bad feeling has erupted. Innocent traders are attacked, ships with zero notoriety, not wanted routinely attacked.

Spear claim to scan to see if a player is wanted. Well, I am never wanted yet am attacked routinely by spear. No warning, no words, no waiting of any kind. Interdict and open fire.

@BHARD99 you claim to use 'all methods of advanced tactical response'. My experience of multiple attacks from spear is that you have only one tactic- find someone alone, attack them with a wing of at least 3.

What other tactics are there?

Perhaps, next time you gank me, try something new? Show me some of your advanced tactics! I would enjoy to see them, test my skills against it.
 

Just Paul

Just Paul
BHARD99 said:
We are not the police! We are a player-driven Special-Unit doing all methods of Advanced Tactical Response.

We will identify and find all kinds of terrorists and bring them down.

If you open fire after being interdicted as announced, you have to take the consequences.
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This sounds very much like what a terrorist would do. Also going somewhere and terrorize the neighborhood with the threat to remove features loved by all in Colonia sounds more something a terrorist will do. Ok, almost all. They bought their ships at our shipyard and now to hell with the rest of Colonia. Same as people associated with SPEAR, buying Alliance ships in our shipyard and now working to remove them from Colonia.:rolleyes:
Tactical response to what? Right now you are attacking groups who were/are defending themselves against attacks from a much larger group. This is going on now since 8 months. We didn't started this, your bully partners did and we have the proof. Just like we have proof that your other partners are violating our treaty. They might hide in PG, but we still know what they are doing.
 

TEBORI

TEBORI
carcosa is anarchy
watch your 6 guys
anarchy can be dangerous...

in non anarchy systems @BHARD99 explained perfectly the actuel RoE

@fishevi people writing in that style are normally they ones who beg doughnut cops for not getting a ticket after wrong parking. looking forward to meet you in game strong man... ⚔
 

Dillon Fallon

Dillon Fallon
BHARD99 said:
@fishevi


/Roleplay off/
Great answer - we both will have content then and fun in game ;-)
/Roleplay on/

We are not the police! We are a player-driven Special-Unit doing all methods of Advanced Tactical Response.

We will identify and find all kinds of terrorists and bring them down.

If you open fire after being interdicted as announced, you have to take the consequences.
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No. You won't.

That you would respond to and attempt to intimidate our junior members but won't respond to me asking when you're going to do something about the supposed 'lawlessness' on PS4 tells me everything I need to know.

Won't respond unless you have an overwhelming advantage, only takes on someone they expect to have lesser skill than them.

Why would you expect anyone to want to play a game with you? It's plain what you are to me anyway.
 

TEBORI

TEBORI
@Barnard17 the last time i checked the ship lists of the sector i didnt see your name.
seems you dont have tickets for the show
i wonder why you are writing here. i thought your circle has nothing to do with this. well we all know it has ;) therefor keep going here...
 

BHARD99

BHARD99
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Colonia is really a lovely place in comparison to the bubble. The only difference seems to be that people here are complaining if being towed in anarchy systems...

Anarchy comes always with a lot of disadvantages...

Your friendly A.T.R. Colonia recommends: avoid anarchy systems and don't bring yourselve in danger!
 

Just Paul

Just Paul
TEBORI said:
carcosa is anarchy
watch your 6 guys
anarchy can be dangerous...

in non anarchy systems @BHARD99 explained perfectly the actuel RoE
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Only if you guys are around, it was a peaceful system before that with only consensual PvP. Don't confuse Anarchy with danger. That just shows your simple minded law&order thinking. Shame on you.
If many of the local groups with a very diverse background band together to fight this blatant power grab by Civitas Dei and allies it should also make you take a step back and think. SPEAR is not part of Colonia yet and your actions since arrival make it almost impossible for you to become one. Bullying your way in as a willing partner of CIDE/SEPP and turning Colonia into the bubble 2.0 will not win you any hearts. You are the aggressor here and will always be seen as such by the free citizens of Colonia. Start doing something positive for the nebula, removing the superpower ships and halting all advancements of the engineering upgrades is not a good start.
 
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