Horizons ** WARNING ** Explorers beware

[SMcA]

OP: That's quite alot lost. I know the feeling.
Anyway a made tutorial on landing/takeoff High-G worlds on D-equipent (SAFE method) this was 9.77g:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usm21vm0zkk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFFsZlC3Dro

Excellent tutorials and a display of pure technique.
The use of FA-OFF is a neat trick.
I noticed you had only one pip to your shields and took no damage. On Achenar 3 I was taking damage with 4 pips to shields and kept losing landing lock.

Again, I am gutted for the OP losing all that data. But his warning has opened another branch on the tree of knowledge.

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Did I actually write that about the tree of knowledge?
I must remember to take more water with it .

Sorry if it makes anyone sick.

 

[bullfrog]

I pancaked down to 72% hull on a low G moon so I can easily understand how a high G planet would be a problem when not practiced at planet landings.

I was quite surprised at how ineffectual thrusters were, also that I could not fly inverted and thrust down ie up which suggests the physics are not pure and simple.

 

[EpicRecluse]

today my ship went into free-fall during the glide stage for no reason and I hit the surface.

Yeah, DUH, it's called GRAVITY. Lol on a serious note, there have been some issues with the "higher gravity" planets, seen some videos where people just go straight down and nothing they can do about it. On the bright side, FD MIGHT be able to reinstate a previous save from a couple days ago, or if you're lucky, just before the incident, you will have to ask them. I would never play the game again if I lost a weeks worth of exploration data let alone 8 months. This is, in my opinion, something else they need to change in the game, I've lost millions worth of bounties over my play time because I just bit off more than I could chew, or made a simple mistake.

 

[LuciusEsox]

This is truly the saddest post I have seen about the game.

My exploring stretches to having been to Sag A and a few little jaunts and coming back from Sag I was utterly paranoid about losing the data ) the credits) and compared to your journey and time out its nothing.

Bad bad luck mate.

 

[[VR] Frank_G]

OP: That's quite alot lost. I know the feeling.
Anyway a made tutorial on landing/takeoff High-G worlds on D-equipent (SAFE method) this was 9.77g:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usm21vm0zkk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFFsZlC3Dro

Very nice video. I planned to return for some tests, after reading this post, but now i can just continue.
My Asp has a jump range of 31 ly, as it is equipped with not only 2 SRVs but with some other useful stuff as well. I will carefully test this approach on high-g worlds i encounter. Thank you

 

[AdriánGuth]

when realism punch u in tha face

 

[CMDR DAVID187]

Go spend 8 months of your life and effort on any task, trivial or not, then watch its fruits be destroyed in a matter of seconds for one error and see how it feels. The OP's frustration is entirely understandable.

exactly, an error. The players fault. Pointless to cry here when is their own fault!!!

 

[Sapient6]

I'm not good in those situations. Eight months out and you forget how to fly. I tend to freeze up in panicky situations. I didn't think to use the thruster's. My first instinct was to point the nose straight up into the night sky and select max power. In that skyward position you can no longer see the ground and I had this terrible weightless sinking feeling in my stomach. I dared not look out the side window.

You say you're not good in these situations, but this was a very good instinct. If the main thrusters couldn't save you, then the vertical thrusters (which are MUCH weaker) didn't have a prayer. It may be that the main thrusters + full pips to engines + constant boosting could have done the trick, but it's just as likely that you were already dead.

As to not being able to see the ground in this position, I LAND on high G planets using this position (because it is so much faster and safer). Your altitude is diagrammed on the HUD, and is actually a much better way to monitor your altitude than looking out the window.

 

[LuciusEsox]

exactly, an error. The players fault. Pointless to cry here when is their own fault!!!

what can you say ?

 

[Lightspeed]

exactly, an error. The players fault. Pointless to cry here when is their own fault!!!

Well, it's not like he could go down the pub and talk to people about it to get it off his chest .... I mean .... who would understand you, when you said, "I've been 8 months out in space and crashed on a planet due to high g" ?

 

[Hotshot Jimmy]

Well I've had one interesting landing/crash. I must admit I had completely forgot about gravity when I first landed on a planet. cargo hold full, fully fuelled and down I was falling. I literally had to point upwards and boost just to supercruise away and leave some cargo out. It can get quite tricky if you don't notice the effects until the last 100ft on landing

 

[gazzareth]

Worse luck to the OP, how to find out the hard way I guess. Running 5a thrusters on my explorer to reduce issues like that, of course between that and the massive fuel load I carry I can only jump 26ly. Still worry about gravity though, if that wasn't enough last planet I landed on was pure white and in direct light so (probably thanks to my dodgy gfx card as well) I had to do an instument only landing - even in the srv I couldn't make anything out, ended up giving up prospecting because it was just getting damaged by hitting the bumps...........

Can be dodgy, these planets.....

G

 

[PiggyPiggyPig]

aw man, sympathies. exploration is a calling, and once it has you, you are pretty much at it's mercy. how could an explorer not want to land on planets? not want to touch down on the very things they have been cataloging, capturing images, preserving memories and forwarding to the cartographers that which you have discovered and which others may never see?

i hope your experience of being on the frontier, the imagery and memories you have collected, offer some form of consolation, while that feeling of frustration and upset settles down. from what has been hinted at, there is much more yet to be seen, and it will be commanders like you, out there on the fringes, shining a torch in those dark places that will be bringing the light of those discoveries to the rest of us 'bubble bound' commanders.

hope the lure of distant places, and new possibilities, gets you back in a Remlok, and route planning.. Fly Safe Commander o7

Thanks! So many positive replies and some well deserved humorous sarcasm has lifted my spirits, enough at least for me to start over. Yesterday evening I outfitted a Hauler and set a course. Second star to the right and straight on till morning. I'm now 1000 Ly's from SOL and feeling much better. You are completely right about the imagery and memories.
Its not the destination but the journey.

 

[Lightspeed]

Right on, Commander ! o7

 

[dognosh]

Thanks! So many positive replies and some well deserved humorous sarcasm has lifted my spirits, enough at least for me to start over. Yesterday evening I outfitted a Hauler and set a course. Second star to the right and straight on till morning. I'm now 1000 Ly's from SOL and feeling much better. You are completely right about the imagery and memories.
Its not the destination but the journey.

+1 rep and ignore the idiots

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P.s visit the exploration forum

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Thanks! So many positive replies and some well deserved humorous sarcasm has lifted my spirits, enough at least for me to start over. Yesterday evening I outfitted a Hauler and set a course. Second star to the right and straight on till morning. I'm now 1000 Ly's from SOL and feeling much better. You are completely right about the imagery and memories.
Its not the destination but the journey.

My word, that is some impressive Bruce Wayne-like getting up after a fall sentiment right there.

Many tons of respect to you CMDR! Hope to see you posting your findings in the explorer forums. And I suggest going there anyway to get tips on this planet landing bonanza and ship builds and just amazing screenshots. We got the lot!

 

[schizrade]

I did the same thing OP. After playing the beta and declaring myself the man, I took off for a new trip and within 8 hours had blown myself up in a 5g planet, not in beta... damn. Lesson learned: check the map before you even think of landing on something. Fools rush in, etc.

Oh and the part about analog thrusters, yes do it. The ability to feather them makes ALL the difference in landing. I can apply a very tiny down thrust to make safe contact with a >4g planet from a few meters up. I wont land on anything more then 4g on expedition unless there is verifiably something juicy down there. Usually wont attempt more than 2.5g.

 

[Chaz]

Yep those landable ringed planets are like honey traps waiting to catch the unwary pilot. "Oh a planet with a ring, I wonder how great that will look when I land on it?" Speeds over and promptly splats on the surface.

I haven't yet seen a ringed planet you can land on that is less than about 2G. I'm not saying they don't exist, it's just that most of the ones I've seen are high G worlds. I'm no astrophysicist but I'm guessing a planet needs a pretty high gravitational pull in order to form a ring around it in the first place. Also high metal content planets seem to have a higher G rating too, I'm guessing it's because they have a denser mass. Ice planets and rocky moons on the whole I wouldn't worry about, unless they are quite large, but with the others it's always worth a quick check first.

 

[dryjoy]

Yep those landable ringed planets are like honey traps waiting to catch the unwary pilot. "Oh a planet with a ring, I wonder how great that will look when I land on it?" Speeds over and promptly splats on the surface.

I haven't yet seen a ringed planet you can land on that is less than about 2G. I'm not saying they don't exist, it's just that most of the ones I've seen are high G worlds. I'm no astrophysicist but I'm guessing a planet needs a pretty high gravitational pull in order to form a ring around it in the first place. Also high metal content planets seem to have a higher G rating too, I'm guessing it's because they have a denser mass. Ice planets and rocky moons on the whole I wouldn't worry about, unless they are quite large, but with the others it's always worth a quick check first.

There's a 1.05G ringed planet in the system I'm currently hanging out in. Don't see many like it, though.

 

[CapitanAceRimmer]

I think you should ask Frontier if they can restore your game, I'm sure everyone here would back you up. Sure, it was your own fault but such a big loss especially when you are supporting Frontier by purchasing the horizons extension to the game. I think you genuinely deserve a second chance in this case.