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That is probably true. In this age of self censorship, though, I think spontaneity is a rare commodity, so maybe some toxicity is preferable to sterilisation.
We Need to be Better as a Community
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A long time ago I posted this.
forums.frontier.co.uk
And it's still relativly relevant today
Leading by example (A quick plea to you oldies.)
Hi Everyone. Just thought I'd make a quick post on how the forum is evolving as new backers of Elite Dangerous join us here for the release. Please be patient to new forum members as they join and delve into the forum and the wonderful world of Elite, we all make mistakes and no-one like to...
Hi Everyone.
Just thought I'd make a quick post on how the forum is evolving as new backers of Elite Dangerous join us here for the release.
Please be patient to new forum members as they join and delve into the forum and the wonderful world of Elite, we all make mistakes and no-one like to be jumped on when this happens. The vast majority of the forum members are fantastic in helping new posters to join in and offer advice. There are couple of points I'd like to make:
The Frontier forum is a family orientated place, it may come as a shock to some but Elite is not the only series of games FD have created.
- If a new thread is created on a existing subject/in the wrong area etc. Take a little bit of time to direct them to the existing thread and by all means PM a mod and we will look into the thread, please dont make disparaging comments .
- If someone creates a post that comes across in a negative manner. Don't respond in kind, instead show them there are better ways to make a point by responding in a positive and constructive manner. sarcastic replies discourages new forum members and will stifle debate and can easily descend into flamewars.
- If a forum member is unsure of the forum rules or how to post on the forum etc. We have guides you can direct them to that can help them so they can join in and enjoy being part of the great community we are all helping to create.
Some games are for the younger gamers i.e Kinectimal, who may be intrigued into what Elite is and will browse the main Elite Dangerous forum. We really want to encourage them to join in and become the next generation of Elite players to kick our collective bottoms with their faster reflexes and all that.
Always be mindful of this and post in a responsible manner.
We are all fans of the game and are all on a exciting journey together to help Frontier make the game the very best it can be. The forum is a place to express ideas and opinions have fun and revel in the madness creating a great game. Everyone has a right to be heard and as long as they contribute in the right way they should be allowed to have their voice heard.
Remember many of you were new forum members not so very long ago and the influx of new posters will continue for a while yet as the game progresses through the stages of testing until release and beyond... It can take a bit of time to get used to how Frontier likes the interaction of the forum to be conducted, so show them how to join in by leading by example.
Thanks everyone.
T.j
And it's still relativly relevant today
Rather view them as 'little rascals'.
Remember that this is PG.
Let us define 'toxicity'. What is it in this case?
Little rascals vs old people in belief of power.
Oldie: "Conform. CONFORM!" (Ah cr*p, this adult won't quit! I don't understand. Was I this obnoxious when I was a kid? NO! I was not.... I believe that strongly.)
Rascal: - "Never!" (or at least I got that out of me, next time I sh*t up and do as the rules tell me, but I can not admit that I learned something here)
Rascal: - "Never!" (or at least I got that out of me, next time I sh*t up and do as the rules tell me, but I can not admit that I learned something here)
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Id recommend reading the thread in question before considering a vid on the subject. It undermines the OP's position here, since most of any toxicity came from the OP there.
The bigger issue is people screaming "toxicity" the moment they're met with criticism.
The worst part about it is just how many will jump on that band wagon to see themselves on the high ground.
What used to be commonplace was people calling out nonsense. These days it's time to shut up should anything possibly be seen as negative or contrary.
One thing i personally have noticed about toxicity in public life, is that once a person becomes ill, most fervently held ideologies, quick tempers and careless thoughts begin to mellow significantly, you'll rarely find a varied group of people that get on so well, as those in a hospital, because they've been forced to realise what is actually of importance in life, and it turns out, other than a few very basic truths to do with treating others right, there's not much else worth getting hot under the collar for.
Honestly Ant, I'd take a quick look. This is an important topic, but it'd be a shame if any serious discussion that might emerge was undermined by its association with that particular thread. Not only is the "toxicity" mild in comparison with some of the vitriol seen elsewhere*, but to my eyes the animosity seems to begin -- whether deliberately or as a result of a language barrier -- with the originator's own early replies. Mileages may vary of course, but I don't think it's a great example of bad "community" behaviour. I've certainly seen worse.
*this is based on my earlier reading of the first two-and-a-bit
pages. It may well have blown up by the time you read this.
pages. It may well have blown up by the time you read this.
Nicely put Commander, bit like one of Murphy's Laws of Warfare that states there isn't any atheists in a foxhole during an attack! Having been both under fire and in a dire medical emergency, I can vouch that what seemed important before suddenly isn't that important anymore.
That doesn't really work if the expectation of conformity is that you must gripe about some really trivial stuff.
Masked swearing is considered bad form
I really believe that the thread OP mentions actually brought a lot of the community together. We rallied against a common enemy
Yep, its just a video game and a reality check is sometimes required.
One of the reasons I think demands for extra realism in games are misguided. Running over a medpack doesn't cure gunshot wounds, it just stubs your toe and gets you yelled at by a very angry medic.
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The internet is a great thing.
But its use is fraught with problems.
Own your words, and use them carefully.
It is fine to disagree.
But disagree with the message, not the messenger.
There is also a report button on this forum.
Someone abused you rather than your message?
Use it.
Do not reply back escalating the situation, let the Mods sort it out.
That is what they do not get paid for afterall.
But its use is fraught with problems.
Own your words, and use them carefully.
It is fine to disagree.
But disagree with the message, not the messenger.
There is also a report button on this forum.
Someone abused you rather than your message?
Use it.
Do not reply back escalating the situation, let the Mods sort it out.
That is what they do not get paid for afterall.
This is nice and such. But remember there are kids here. You can't expect every new player to understand. The learning cliff is steep when it comes to new forums and their rules and conformation.
Here I would disagree with this statement.
I do expect people posting on the forum to understand, irrespective of tbeir age.
When they sign up to the forum, they agree to its terms and conditions.
That means they should understand to be polite or expect to be removed from its use.
Yep, a sucking chest wound is nature's way of telling you to slow down!
Remember just before I retired from the military, had some idiot - he wasn't a kid, late teens/early 20's I guess, tell me that he could use any weapon in our inventory and use it better than anyone else. When I finished laughing at this pimply faced man/boy he told me he is some high rank in COD and 'used all the weapons in the game at a higher level than I could ever do in real life'. Scary thing is he was quite serious, he actually thought that firing a rifle via a controller is as good as putting lead down range. Tried telling him that real life doesn't have a respawn but even that failed to temper his belief in his own abilities. God I was tempted to take him out to the range, but the unfiltered sound of a rifle being fired would have probably scared him too much lol
If you ever want a laugh, jump on You-Tube and watch any clip about a modern (or at least post WW1) weapon then read the comments. Guaranteed some idiot will jump in and say he used this weapon in some game and it is either 'leet' or whatever. And they wonder why they get laughed at !
I read the OP** you are mentioning and while there were some harsh replies, there wasn't a single toxic one. Well, maybe except your post
** https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/strong-suspicion-that-this-game-has-a-hacker-problem.530788/
I do what I want.
And there you go. Internet toxicity compacted in a single 5-word sentence.
Hit ignore button. Helps best against major annoyances.