Weeks of hard grinding, all gone in an instant (please help)
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Did you use the DC in beta, i did, and it was awful then, slow, took ages and 9/10 times would kill you.
SJA has done a great job improving the DC, along with the AI, ok it might still have occasional glitches and not work correctly, but it is still an ongoing task, and every patch lately has had improvements to DC and AI.
I use the DC all the time in an Anaconda, 8m rebuy, sometimes 6m cargo, and i have often made a cuppa, or gone to the toilet whilst docking. Never yet has it let me down since 1.3 patch.
Of course if it did, i have plenty of credits for the insurance, otherwise i would not risk AFK even now,
And even then i would be forgiving of the DC, and remember it happens very rarely, and partly my fault for being AFK.
Remember all software has bugs, even new games (Latest Batman), most windows os too. It can never be 100%.
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No insurance, no sympathy. Simple!!!
This is the reason why i always exit super cruise, stop, and i really STOP, no movement at all, as the wife or my kids start talking to me while i accidently play Elite Dangerous if im not allone...
Learned the hard way aswell.
Now im back earning millions/hour, but damn, i had to swallow this tough pill aswell..
EDIT: and Ditch that docking computer! Its worthless. Best part of this game is landing your oversized ship, in a undersized spacestation, on a tiny docking plaform, through an even smaller entrance, after hauling cargo, across populated space..
Learned the hard way aswell.
Now im back earning millions/hour, but damn, i had to swallow this tough pill aswell..
EDIT: and Ditch that docking computer! Its worthless. Best part of this game is landing your oversized ship, in a undersized spacestation, on a tiny docking plaform, through an even smaller entrance, after hauling cargo, across populated space..
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I use a docking computer on any ship that requires a large pad (because I’m lazy).
I’ve never had a problem with DC since the update. Before that I only had a problem using it on medium ships at outposts, I don’t know if this has been fixed or not.
But as I understand it and my own experience DC is solid and reliable.
It sounds like you were either very, very unlucky or bugged. So surely worth an appeal?
I often go AFK when docking and don’t worry about it.
But then I’m very conservative with my rebuy and surplus.
For example I blew up and Anaconda in a CZ and shrugged off the CR15M rebuy. I have always working on 3 x re-buy of my most expensive ship so it’s a ‘setback’ rather than a ‘catastrophe’ when something goes wrong.
If you can’t get your ship back by lodging a ticket, don’t lose heart. Having learned the game the time to get back to where you where will be significantly less. Your weeks of ‘hard grinding’ will be just one or two and maybe even more fun!
Good luck mate.
I agree... "frontier might help if you ask" = open a ticket. Still don't fly without insurance. If insurance was covered and this happened he could have still opened a ticket and continued playing in the ship. Now he has to wait for FD to respond to get his ship back rather than just waiting for a reimbursement of credits.
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Pretty much how i feel.
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Shields wouldn't have helped him in this situation. Full boost into the side of a station will kill any ship.
lol...it never hurts to ask....
Seriously?
So, you were trading with no shields, not enough cash to cover the rebuy, and while using the auto dock, which in itself is not bad over 11ly as long as you carefully manage the calculated risk you are taking. But then you had a complete brain fart, and you got up to get a drink at arguably the only point where there is a realistic chance of you dying?
Usually i have some sympathy for people who make these threads, but alas i can't help but comment here in a negative way.
Natural selection is real.
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You will never trust AI software? Really? I take it in real life you never fly on a aeroplane or travel in a modern motor vehicle? It's your life at stake on those occasions never mind some pretend money in a computer game.
Anyway, I keep reading comments about the DC is bugged and it maybe for all I know, but I have never had a problem with it. So speak as you find, and I find the DC very useful as it relieves me of a tiresome chore and gives me time to admire the artwork that has been put into the stations or go off and get a cup of tea. In fact I find the DC so useful that I have made room for one in my Vulture - probably not a decision that will find favour with many but it suits me.
No, it really is called insurance and is there for the purpose of avoiding a large part of what the OP was ranting about. The bugged docking computer is a different point to the one I was making and one I have no personal experience of so avoiding commenting on.
The only time I've ever had issues with the DC is activating it when almost docked....it has a penchant for initially avoiding the slot because reasons, and it went ahead and tried to do that even though I was virtually in the mail slot....slammed me right into the station....I had so much illegal cargo and thank the stars every day I didn't get scanned somehow (actually I logged to avoid it, whatever.)
I trust my ship to the docking computer, and unless I'm playing in open I would hold the DC liable for damage or death that occurs. But so far docking has been flawless as long as you do it 5km+ away and leave it.
Sidebar, I use it on every ship - it's just so convenient. Even on my vulture when I had it. I only (usually) shut it off when smuggling.
I trust my ship to the docking computer, and unless I'm playing in open I would hold the DC liable for damage or death that occurs. But so far docking has been flawless as long as you do it 5km+ away and leave it.
Sidebar, I use it on every ship - it's just so convenient. Even on my vulture when I had it. I only (usually) shut it off when smuggling.
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For me now 1/100 docks with the DC goes wrong. And for me it is always because another ship gets in the way or rams me. Never leave the DC unattended.
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There is a known problem with fast ships that are slow to decelerate (yeah, I'm looking at you, Mr Clipper...) It'll all be resolved on the next DC release. I've spent some time recently making sure it could cope with just about anything the player could do, even tricks like parking under the cattle grid (it backs away no problemo now) and even all cases where the docking can be disrupted by the player and resumed. I've tested boosting a Clipper at 4.5km or closer from the station and then activating DC and it will avoid a crash now, unless it's 100% unavoidable. Plus the new code won't try to back out of the entrance slot if it's inside the entrance way and can resume. Plus at outposts it won't do the rise up 1km before descending if you're inline with the pad. I take a lot of pride in my work so I think this time I'll have all the issues resolved.
There is a known problem with fast ships that are slow to decelerate (yeah, I'm looking at you, Mr Clipper...) It'll all be resolved on the next DC release. I've spent some time recently making sure it could cope with just about anything the player could do, even tricks like parking under the cattle grid (it backs away no problemo now) and even all cases where the docking can be disrupted by the player and resumed. I've tested boosting a Clipper at 4.5km or closer from the station and then activating DC and it will avoid a crash now, unless it's 100% unavoidable. Plus the new code won't try to back out of the entrance slot if it's inside the entrance way and can resume. Plus at outposts it won't do the rise up 1km before descending if you're inline with the pad. I take a lot of pride in my work so I think this time I'll have all the issues resolved.
Excellent. I'm definitely a docking computer fan.
Now, if you'd please make a launching computer also, that'd be wonderful. I'd take a lot of pleasure in seeing half the forum melt down. Schadenfreude and whatnot.
Shakes head... whilst I can understand your annoyance I'd suggest that it should all be directed at yourself.
Any one of the three is obviously risky: Flying without shields, flying without insurance, leaving the controls whilst in motion.
Doing all three at the same time is just asking for trouble.
Any one of the three is obviously risky: Flying without shields, flying without insurance, leaving the controls whilst in motion.
Doing all three at the same time is just asking for trouble.
There is a known problem with fast ships that are slow to decelerate (yeah, I'm looking at you, Mr Clipper...) It'll all be resolved on the next DC release. I've spent some time recently making sure it could cope with just about anything the player could do, even tricks like parking under the cattle grid (it backs away no problemo now) and even all cases where the docking can be disrupted by the player and resumed. I've tested boosting a Clipper at 4.5km or closer from the station and then activating DC and it will avoid a crash now, unless it's 100% unavoidable. Plus the new code won't try to back out of the entrance slot if it's inside the entrance way and can resume. Plus at outposts it won't do the rise up 1km before descending if you're inline with the pad. I take a lot of pride in my work so I think this time I'll have all the issues resolved.
I remember the docking computer before your recent tweaks and fixes... My cobra didn't blow up, but it was abused a bit. I'm glad to hear that the DC is getting more and more improvements. One question/request from me on top of all the others you get: Can the DC killing us exempt us from insurance premiums. It could be considered getting the manufacturer to pay off our insurance since I don't think there is a claim waiver on the outfitting screen
I'm completely against money back, or ship return situations where CMDRs wreck their ships, insurance, or no.
However, in this case, it was ED that wrecked his ship, and the pilot should get his ship back, no matter how well or poorly he/she was piloting at the time, unless, at time of purchase, the DC comes with a gigantic warning that states it might crash the ship.
However, in this case, it was ED that wrecked his ship, and the pilot should get his ship back, no matter how well or poorly he/she was piloting at the time, unless, at time of purchase, the DC comes with a gigantic warning that states it might crash the ship.