What are your Planet Zoo Hot Takes?
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It extremely depends on whether you're from the US or not. For me the only common zoo animal I actually get to see in european zoos from the NA pack is the alligator and prairie dog.It's literally my least favourite.
I wonder which of us has the hotter take on that.
It's just the alligator for me. Auckland Zoo had California sea lions for a time but they've been replaced by rehabilitated NZ fur seals (and the sea lion is immersion-breaking for me anyway because I can't look past how small the bull is).
I'm not from the US, and I would consider most of those species fairly common in captivity
It’s similar for me, the alligator is the only animal from the NA pack that has much of a captive presence here and so it’s the one I get the most use out of. The only other animal in the pack that is kept in Australia is the California sea lion, but they are still only kept at Taronga Zoo and Sea World (the latter of which I’m not sure I’d consider a zoo).
I think all of the animals in the NA pack were great, most of them just aren’t that useful for me.
Got another good one:
Eurasian Otter > North American River Otter
And the best part is that my reasoning goes beyond that im European and not American, but that they are significantly different from the two otters in game through zheir requirements, not only living in pairs instead of groups, but also living across 3 continents and all 7 biomes with one of the largest ranges in the game.
Theres a reason why its also called the Old world otter
Eurasian Otter > North American River Otter
And the best part is that my reasoning goes beyond that im European and not American, but that they are significantly different from the two otters in game through zheir requirements, not only living in pairs instead of groups, but also living across 3 continents and all 7 biomes with one of the largest ranges in the game.
Theres a reason why its also called the Old world otter
That's pretty much it exactly.
I pretty much exclusively build in Britain in the game, but even in that case there aren't a ton of American species kept in British zoos.
Damn, beat me to it. Was gonna say the exact same thing.
Absolutely agree, I extensively make north American zoos so naturally it's my favourite dlc
Lemme expand this: I want the NA otter and the European otter.
I also say that the American black bear MUST be in the game, despite people not wanting it. Totally important for a local fauna zoo
I also want an na otter, the sea otter.
4 otters would be more then enough, with only the na river otter or the eurasian otter deserving a spot in the game, not both.
We also play pretend with the beavers, i dont see why we shouldnt for the otters, but even then my choice would be the eurasian just for the fact that its more interesting and flexible in its requirement
4 otters would be more then enough, with only the na river otter or the eurasian otter deserving a spot in the game, not both.
We also play pretend with the beavers, i dont see why we shouldnt for the otters, but even then my choice would be the eurasian just for the fact that its more interesting and flexible in its requirement
Why not almost every other otter in a single pack
- Sea otter
- Eurasian otter
- North American River otter
- Southern river otter
- Spotted neck otter
- Smooth coated otter
- Neotropical river otter
- African clawless otter
Ok, idea:
An all bird animal pack, but with 4 ground dwelling habitat birds and 4 flying WE birds:
An all bird animal pack, but with 4 ground dwelling habitat birds and 4 flying WE birds:
- Greater rhea
- Secretary bird
- Little blue penguin
- Screamer
- Great hornbill (WE)
- Scarlet macaw (WE)
- Rainbow lorikeet (WE)
- Sulfur-crested cockatoo (WE)
My hot take is the Africa pack and this upcoming twilight pack are actively hindered and worse for being scenery packs. So many missing species and the scenery is so incongruent with the species… most of the animals in the Africa pack are from South Africa yet we have North African and Egyptian signs for them… we have Romanian/ gothic architecture when the only European animal in the twilight pack is the red fox…
I really hate when the scenery and animal selection is at odds
I really hate when the scenery and animal selection is at odds
Agreed that the Africa pack should have been an animal pack. The architecture should have been included in a Middle East or desert scenery pack.
I think a Twilight animal pack could have worked better with animals with a 'scare' factor, to go along with the gothic theme. Red fox is fine, but also Wild boar... Wolverine... I think raccoon also fits, considering they've got quite the reputation for being feisty. This way 3 out of 4 animals occur in Europe.
I love the skunk though and would try to fit them in another pack for sure. The wombat could easily fit in another pack as well.
Funny that both these packs are still my favourite packs! Even though twilight hasn’t come out yet, it is already top of my list. Africa takes a close second!
this is gonna be... interesting:
-Bengal tiger over Sumatran tiger was a good choice.
-Emu and shoebills are overrated, as a bonus i think that both rhea and kiwi would be better for the game than the emu.
- franchise is the best game mode out of the five modes, as a addition, sandbox is the most boring game mode.
-the amur leopard was a bad inclusion, we already had two Asian snow clime big cats, there was no need for a third one.
-planet zoo animal diversity is terrible, you can build a whole zoo with just African\Asian animals, now try to built a Australian or South American session on your zoo, also:
There's more cats(10) than birds(7).
There's more wolf subspecies than habitat tortoises (and the same amount of wolf subspecies and chelonians in the general).
there's more bears than horses and rodents together.
There's plenty of groups with low or zero representation, like lagomorphs, and key species that are still missing, like ducks, gooses, African crocs, more rodents, armadillos, sloths, maned wolfs and many others.
as a addition, i would like to frontier work more on others games mode, others than sandbox.
-the only two animals that needs a visual rework is the Malayan tapir and the timber wolf, all the rest is good.
-all the dlc's are way too much overprice, they sell a low quantity of content for a ridiculous price.
-Pz have a lot of interesting mechanics that are poorly explored (exhibit, colourmorph, vocalizations, bathing and many others) or are way too buggy to be enjoyed satisfactorily( climbing system and deep diving, mainly).
-the addition of the spectacled caiman shows how much this community doesn't know what it wants, the vast majority of people that criticized the croc wanted animals with similar proposal (Sumatran tigers, Grevy zebras, Masai giraffes).
-we don't need any other generic African antelope, something distinct would be cool, although, like a eland or a dik-dik.
and by far my most hot take:
we should really stop thinking if a animal is common enough in captivity, and think more on how a animal would impact the game, as a example the Amur leopard is great if you only think on realism, but if you think on pure impact on the game, the Persian/Arabian leopard would have been a infinitely better choises. Start thinking on that way, we would have more things like the Tasmanian Devil, Marine Iguana, colugos, Leopard seals and kakapos, instead of Amur leopards, Dingos and llamas. This would also increase significantly the creativity on people.
-Bengal tiger over Sumatran tiger was a good choice.
-Emu and shoebills are overrated, as a bonus i think that both rhea and kiwi would be better for the game than the emu.
- franchise is the best game mode out of the five modes, as a addition, sandbox is the most boring game mode.
-the amur leopard was a bad inclusion, we already had two Asian snow clime big cats, there was no need for a third one.
-planet zoo animal diversity is terrible, you can build a whole zoo with just African\Asian animals, now try to built a Australian or South American session on your zoo, also:
There's more cats(10) than birds(7).
There's more wolf subspecies than habitat tortoises (and the same amount of wolf subspecies and chelonians in the general).
there's more bears than horses and rodents together.
There's plenty of groups with low or zero representation, like lagomorphs, and key species that are still missing, like ducks, gooses, African crocs, more rodents, armadillos, sloths, maned wolfs and many others.
- the hate against crocodilians is unjustified, there's only five crocs and people act like we have too much, meanwhile there's the double of cat's and people are always asking for more.
- Animals personality wouldn't change the game dramatically, in fact the vast majority of people wouldn't even notice the change.
as a addition, i would like to frontier work more on others games mode, others than sandbox.
-the only two animals that needs a visual rework is the Malayan tapir and the timber wolf, all the rest is good.
-all the dlc's are way too much overprice, they sell a low quantity of content for a ridiculous price.
-Pz have a lot of interesting mechanics that are poorly explored (exhibit, colourmorph, vocalizations, bathing and many others) or are way too buggy to be enjoyed satisfactorily( climbing system and deep diving, mainly).
-the addition of the spectacled caiman shows how much this community doesn't know what it wants, the vast majority of people that criticized the croc wanted animals with similar proposal (Sumatran tigers, Grevy zebras, Masai giraffes).
-we don't need any other generic African antelope, something distinct would be cool, although, like a eland or a dik-dik.
and by far my most hot take:
we should really stop thinking if a animal is common enough in captivity, and think more on how a animal would impact the game, as a example the Amur leopard is great if you only think on realism, but if you think on pure impact on the game, the Persian/Arabian leopard would have been a infinitely better choises. Start thinking on that way, we would have more things like the Tasmanian Devil, Marine Iguana, colugos, Leopard seals and kakapos, instead of Amur leopards, Dingos and llamas. This would also increase significantly the creativity on people.
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This is the best thing I have read in the forum in a long time. We have already talked about it years ago but imagine simple reskins available every month for certain overpriced amount. I would buy them all and many of you would do probably do the same.
Yeah pretty much, so many reskinned animals for seperate biomes that would be a waste of space for the dlc. Like I would love the American flamingo but in a dlc pack? Im not sure
My hottest take, realism isn't a valid reason to not include a currently existing animal from the game. I find it unacceptable to use that level of realism for why we can't have, say, Marine Iguana or Dugongs in game, when we don't have enough realism to have Studbooks, breeding programs, and a AZA. Like seriously, I can't have a dugong because they aren't really in captivity, but I don't have a breeding plan I have to abide by? Zoos can't just willy nilly breed endangered species. It's all planned, and mates are even picked out by the breeding program.
If we use realism to exclude animals, I want studbooks and breeding programs.
EDIT: Also diseases and conditions that can't be treated. Like arthritis so we have develop a care plan forthe animal. Also like Elephant herpes. Its in basically all captive Asian elephants, and is usually harmless, however if it becomes active in youth, it can be very fatal to juvenile elephants. My local zoo lost our first calf in years, Lily, to it, within a day of the virus becoming active.
en.wikipedia.org
www.oregonzoo.org
If we use realism to exclude animals, I want studbooks and breeding programs.
EDIT: Also diseases and conditions that can't be treated. Like arthritis so we have develop a care plan forthe animal. Also like Elephant herpes. Its in basically all captive Asian elephants, and is usually harmless, however if it becomes active in youth, it can be very fatal to juvenile elephants. My local zoo lost our first calf in years, Lily, to it, within a day of the virus becoming active.
Elephant endotheliotropic herpesvirus - Wikipedia
Lily
Lily was a female Asian elephant born at the Oregon Zoo at 2:17 a.m. on Nov. 30, 2012. She weighed a hefty 300 pounds at birth and was been described by zoo animal-care staff as a “spitfire.” Her excited forays into the new areas of Elephant Land eased the tension in the others of her herd as...
www.oregonzoo.org
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