What can the devs do to help grow the population?
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This is already happening
albeit only up to 25th
The only issue I have with "free arks for logging in" is that some people will just log in, get the free arks and log out, it doesn't necessarily add to the gaming population. It would be much better if extra arks was available as we have outside this period. The problem with the current system is that I can usually log in the day after reset, sell my data and I have my 400 weekly arks, it doesn't take me more than a day or two to gather the amount of data I need to do that. Give me an extra trickle, 10 arks per hour of play on top of the 400, that would reward players who do play a lot, and the ones who log on and do a bunch of missions to get the 400 arks can still do that.
So once you reach the 400 selling data, ding missions etc, that stops and the only way to get extra is to actually stay on and play. Of course that won't stop people logging in and just leaving it logged in, but there are going to be problems no matter what system you use. maybe limit the extra arks to a certain length of time, 10 hours and it stops, so you get an extra 100 free arks per week for playing the game.
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The free Arx are not to reward players for playing the game though, their sole purpose is to incentivise buying Arx packs because on its own if someone is partial towards skins and other customisation stuff it's not enough to get the higher quality items - the current 12 Days of Christmas promotion is a great example of that, and it adds the FOMO factor on top of that (due to the time limited and high-priced special edition skins) - iirc the free Arx in total were about 3000-4000, whereas a single Chromed/Golden skin costs 5,500 or thereabouts. I know it all too well because it used to work on me like a charm in the past.
So in that context your suggestion is kind of counterproductive from Frontier's point of view.
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The devs can make the game exactly to my specification, then it will be so successful they'd need to build a second HQ to house the Fort Knox levels of gold they'll get.
My son got a lot of mileage out of Dyson Sphere Program, so if Factorio is your sort of thing I recommend giving that one a look too, if you haven't already. I would have played but I don't have the time and it's unfortunately only single player (probably fortunately for my son though lol)
I share your assessment of the other space games. Not excusing FDev (ok a little bit), but I think the Odyssey issues are being addressed, it's just a matter of time and patience unfortunately. For me, Odyssey is getting to where it needs to be but it still has ways to go, especially getting it on console.
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But if you use my code to get an account I get extra lives for my Candy Crush game... I mean.. oh.Literally the only non-combat content he has with SC 1) carrying a box from A to B, and 2) mining. Both are at least as shallow as ED gameloops, in a single tiny star system, with even worse performance than EDO and far, far more bugs and crashes. Ignoring all other issues, no sane person plays SC because "EDO doesn't have enough non combat content".But if he is having fun, good for him!
The discussion is how to increase the player base, that is "what can the devs do to grow the population", not, how to earn FDEV more money. In fact in the end it may actually increase spending on the game, who knows, but that's not the subject.
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That's not ever going to happen as it doesn't make sense. Not directed to you but it's an interesting pincer complaint that I see many people have: Odyssey isn't integrated enough to the base game vs. FDev need to roll back to 2.4. My point being is that for someone who 'just' wants space stuff there is still a lot in Odyssey to enjoy but absolutely nothing has been taken away from Horizons, and before anyone says 'planetary tech', please.. Odyssey is inordinately better than Horizons in that regard.
Why should people who enjoy playing a game be rewarded with the equivalent of 0.6 cents, is the fun itself the reward? And why would people who dont enjoy it play for 0.6 cents? Genuine question, who but young children care about this stuff? And if some adult truly bases his gaming choice on whether he gets less than a cent, isnt that indicative of a situation that probably warrants doing other stuff than gaming?
Very confusing.
True, but I don't think free ARX of any sort will do that - if you're not already playing the game, extra cosmetics aren't a lot of use to you.
In terms of what might actually work I'm not sure there's anything better in the short-to-medium term than what they've said they're doing: fix and finish Odyssey, release it on consoles, re-merge the instancing between the two versions.
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Ideally any form of bribe to make players log in and play the game shouldn't be necessary if the game is entertaining enough to play.
My post was just to provide a reminder about the only reason for why we have Arx - if some players misuse it as a motivator to log into the game then that's their perogative I guess, though I almost feel sorry for them all the same because it shouldn't be necessary and instead they might want to try out other games - particularly ones that don't rely on these tactics, it can be quite refreshing really.
Edit - double ninja'd. Three times the charm I suppose
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I don't see any benefit of that really.
1. Not enough content. They added even more potential to a game with limitless abilities, but none of that potential has been tapped. Instead, gameplay was replaced with even more grind.
2. Because not enough content. Also some features are still screwed. Why can I get reported for murder in a settlement where I killed off the last citizen? Who is reporting me?
3. Listen to the community. The community has been telling for years what they would like. But a good analogy would look like this:
You go to a pub and order a steak and fries with a lager.
Now the waitress brings you a burger with mashed potatoes and an ale. If you say but that's not what I ordered - here is what I heard: "I'd like some beef with potatoes and a beer".
I think the community is feeding enough information about meaningful gameplay, how to lessen the grind and make the game more enjoyable.
4. Listen to the community and reduce the grind, add more meaningful gameplay and some content, handcrafted missions would help too. So many features are already there in buds, but they need some serious watering and growing. Thargoids, Guardians, just to name a couple.
It's all there.