What is the 'endgame'?

I can categorically state there is no endgame. No finish line. No winner's trophy. That's not what this game is about.

After a year of play I'm not yet ranked Elite on trade, combat or exploration. I'll get there when I get there. I just play.

Currently I have eighteen of the twenty ships available and around 30M CR in the bank - although normally I just have three; a trade Anaconda, a combat Python and an Asp explorer.

At the weekend I traded metal to Antal (a hostile faction system) for the Community Goal got a 4M CR "thank you" and then took an Imperial Clipper and went mining in the rings of DISCI 1.

Tonight I'll probably take my Python for some combat. As the mood takes me. I do what I want, when I feel like it. That, in my opinion, is the point of the game.
 
What is the 'endgame'?

When you reach triple elite status, top out the CQC leaderboard and pledge to the 'correct' power, your occulus rift mindmelds to your brain and your transmogrification into your Cmdr is completed. You plunge further into the ED galaxy turmoil to live out the rest of your days hooked on Onionhead and never able to return to planet Earth in the time period 2015.
 
So I've been roving around space for a few days now. I have a Cobra Mk3 and the only upgrade I'm seeing that I want from this point is an Anaconda or a Type5 heavy, which are both several million. Up until this point, my motivation has largely been to get a fancier ship, and I've done a little bit of trading and deliveries, but most of my money has come from bounty hunting and, more recently, high conflict zones where I can net something like 200k in 20min.

I looked into power play, but a lot of it seems to basically boil down to "spend half an hour flying around for some extremely minor benefit". So far joining a Power has been more useful in terms of finding more people to blast out of space than it is for actually participating in power play.

At the point I'm at now, my Cobra 3 is pretty much fully-upgraded (its rebuy is about 150k now). I have the highest levels of all the parts and weapons I want. So now I'm realizing that all I have left to look forwards to is my next ship, which is still several million away.

Since the most cost-effective way to make money seems to be high conflict zones, I'm basically facing the reality that I might just be spending hours and hours cycling through the same big battle purely to earn cash, which I'll use for a better ship, and then... ... that's it? I 'won the game'? I can't think of anything else I'd do once I have my fully-upgraded Anaconda. It's not as if I'd need any money anymore beyond ensuring I have enough for rebuy. What is there left to do at that point? What other goals are there to shoot for once you have the biggest ship and best guns?

You are doing it right now...........I cannot speak for anyone else BUT there is a growing trend of people finding the forums more engaging than the game :) I'm really tired of the grind, being told to "use my imagination"......If that was my wont I would read a book :) And to be honest it would be BETTER! PP holds no interest for me, maybe for the completionists or RPers out there, but not for me. I would like quest-chains, a less clinical feel to the game....I dunno, just SOMETHING to grab me!
 
Buy every ship, pilot them all, know their strengh and weakness.

Be triple Elite.

Be King/Admiral.

Get all permits.

Reach sagittarius once.

And most of all : pilot for fun !!!! Without fun, no gameplay.
 
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No! Every single MMO does this and it's totally impractical for the hours I work and the free time that I have.

ED is NOT an MMO........ I wish people would STOP trying to label it a such. It is a space-fight-trade-sim at its core and lacks ANY resemblance to an MMO. Is BF4 an MMO? Is world of tanks an MMO? The answer is NO and neither is ED :) Its multiplayer at best, with at most 20-30-ish players per shard.........I suppose its easier to swallow, the MMO line, its easier to excuse the development "hiccups" and lack of content....
 
I can categorically state there is no endgame. No finish line. No winner's trophy. That's not what this game is about.

After a year of play I'm not yet ranked Elite on trade, combat or exploration. I'll get there when I get there. I just play.

Currently I have eighteen of the twenty ships available and around 30M CR in the bank - although normally I just have three; a trade Anaconda, a combat Python and an Asp explorer.

At the weekend I traded metal to Antal (a hostile faction system) for the Community Goal got a 4M CR "thank you" and then took an Imperial Clipper and went mining in the rings of DISCI 1.

Tonight I'll probably take my Python for some combat. As the mood takes me. I do what I want, when I feel like it. That, in my opinion, is the point of the game.

SO, you are saying there IS no end-game just a grind? ;)
 
Have you taken your Conda into a SSS with no backup? I'll take my Python or Conda into one,sometimes against 8 ships, 20 minutes later I'm crawling home on life support with a big smile on my face.

So much this. I had been neglecting combat so have been concentrating on it for the last couple of weeks. Great fun, I quite often scare myself fartless when the canopy cracks. Docking with less than a minute of oxygen left (I thank the devs for making the inside of stations an oxygen area, otherwise I may not have made it).
Amount of money made: irrelevant
Amount of enjoyment: immeasurable

If you are bored go and do something else like exploring, trading, missions, powerplay oe even dare i say it mining.
 
The game is open-ended. There is no "end game".
There is no final destination, not "You have won!" video at the end: The journey is the game. Where you you want to go next?

You are the Commander & pilot of your own starship.
The year is 3301.
The place is the Milky Way galaxy.
The rest is up to you.
 
would be nice to have some really hard AI pilots to kill that only end gamers can kill and have to be in a wing with like ships too.

No! Every single MMO does this and it's totally impractical for the hours I work and the free time that I have.

Personally I think Elite should really mean Elite in the AI realm. They should be few in number, but terrible foes. And a wing of such pilots should be an incredible challenge (especially if tackled alone). They should be something you seriously consider running away from rather than fight unless you're sure of your abilities.

But saying "only end gamers can kill" suggests a scenario that only occurs once you've reached a certain "level" and that I don't care for unless it's mission based. Within the open universe things shouldn't "scale" based on your ability.

Ideally I'd like to see a persistent universe where major NPCs above a certain rank don't just spawn/despawn but have "lives" not unlike how Skyrim is handled (ie a major trader NPC has a predictable route, a major pirate has a home base and range he hunts out to, etc... ) But for now I'd just settle for a realistic spread of pilot ability out there.
 
This game has no end game. I am enjoying my python and do not need any other ship. One day i hope to have a billion credits so i can go on a rage in the populated systems for fun.
 
The game is open-ended. There is no "end game".
There is no final destination, not "You have won!" video at the end: The journey is the game. Where you you want to go next?

You are the Commander & pilot of your own starship.
The year is 3301.
The place is the Milky Way galaxy.
And if you can find them
Maybe you can hire
The A-Wing

Sorry, I just had to.
 
*Sigh*

I hope i am not the only one.... no, i am certain ! I am not the only one here.

For me/us its not about endgame or mid game/whatever-part-game at all.

We are here because we like the idea of living in space and traveling to other worlds. Discovering interesting worlds, phenomenons, life forms.
It is this deep down urge to be really free. To go wherever we feel like. To live adventurous life.
But what we have got, is something, that is more like our boring lives.

We are not here for the game. We want this for real.
Yeah we get it. It is not possible.

So we went and searched for the "next best thing." :)
It started with made up stories that were told, then came alphabet and we were writing books.
And here we are today - Games.
And right now for us it is ED.

So you see asking us about endgame is like asking:
"what kind of coffin would you like to have at your funeral?"
:)

What we are asking from FD is ....well lets face it: Impossible (at least today)
But it is ok we can be happy with that "next best thing"..... however this "next best" so far, is not good enough.
(there are older titles that were better)

But we will wait and perhaps help to make this "next best thing"
One day.....
 
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So I've been roving around space for a few days now. I have a Cobra Mk3 and the only upgrade I'm seeing that I want from this point is an Anaconda or a Type5 heavy, which are both several million. Up until this point, my motivation has largely been to get a fancier ship, and I've done a little bit of trading and deliveries, but most of my money has come from bounty hunting and, more recently, high conflict zones where I can net something like 200k in 20min.

I looked into power play, but a lot of it seems to basically boil down to "spend half an hour flying around for some extremely minor benefit". So far joining a Power has been more useful in terms of finding more people to blast out of space than it is for actually participating in power play.

At the point I'm at now, my Cobra 3 is pretty much fully-upgraded (its rebuy is about 150k now). I have the highest levels of all the parts and weapons I want. So now I'm realizing that all I have left to look forwards to is my next ship, which is still several million away.

Since the most cost-effective way to make money seems to be high conflict zones, I'm basically facing the reality that I might just be spending hours and hours cycling through the same big battle purely to earn cash, which I'll use for a better ship, and then... ... that's it? I 'won the game'? I can't think of anything else I'd do once I have my fully-upgraded Anaconda. It's not as if I'd need any money anymore beyond ensuring I have enough for rebuy. What is there left to do at that point? What other goals are there to shoot for once you have the biggest ship and best guns?

Nothing left. You've done it all. You won. Congratulations. ;)
 
Without "toys" with which to do things, isn't any undeveloped framework eligible to be called a sandbox by that definition?

A C# compiler is a sandbox if you really want to be tricky. ;)

If we go all philosophical, an empty box is a sandbox that is just waiting for sand. And a box with a grain of sand is also a sandbox. (both apply to ED, depending of how positive or negative you feel respectively :D)

And does the sandbox exists when we are not looking at it? :eek: *mind blown*
 
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