Discussion What is the most efficient way to crowdsource the 3D system coordinates

Smacker

Smacker
Harbinger said:
With regards to missing stations, it's just that I haven't been to that system in Beta 3 so haven't logged the station names/distances yet.

You're probably better off using RedWizzard's latest systems.json from his Github as your primary source of data. He's imported my stations list into it now. In fact I've changed the systems.json file I'm sharing to only include modifications I've made recently to make it easier for RedWizzard. Once I notice RedWizzard has imported them I'll update my shared file as appropriate.

You can of course keep monitoring my shared file to grab data as and when it becomes available. :D
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Righty-Ho, cheers
 

Smacker

Smacker
Harbinger said:
I personally reverse check the distances for all reference stars used in my solution but I've found that with 2 decimal place precision using 9 reference stars as I used to some (not all) of the reverse distance checks were coming back with up to +/-0.005 LY variances. I now use 15 reference stars which results in 1365 permutations of 4 star groupings (no repetition with changed order). I haven't had a failure to find a set of coordinates that all reverse checks agree on since adding more reference stars. More is definitely better.

NOTE: 10-11 reference systems were usually enough but for the sake of an extra 60 seconds I thought I may as well go for 15.

@smacker: I've been thinking about the bases situation and I've made some updates:
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    {
        "name": "Aulin",
        "contributor": "FD",
        "x": -19.6875,
        "y": 32.6875,
        "z": 4.75,
        "region": "Premium Beta2",
        "contributed": "2014-10-21T17:16:31.000Z",
        "stations": [
            {
                "station": "Yurchikhin Gateway",
                "distance": 60.2,
                "type": "Scientific Outpost",
                "commodities_market": false,
                "black_market": false,
                "shipyard": false,
                "outfitting": false
            },
            {
                "station": "Aulin Enterprise",
                "distance": 117,
                "type": "Orbis Starport",
                "commodities_market": true,
                "black_market": false,
                "shipyard": true,
                "outfitting": true
            },
            {
                "station": "Binnie City",
                "distance": 347,
                "type": "Scientific Outpost",
                "commodities_market": false,
                "black_market": false,
                "shipyard": false,
                "outfitting": false
            }
        ]
    }

As you can see I now include the station type, whether or not the station has a commodities market, black market, shipyard or outfitting which should be useful if people only want to grab certain bases for example only those with a commodities market. As this requires physically visiting the bases to get the information there are many from my previous additions currently listed as "unknown". I'll try and at the very least get the rest of these checked ASAP and any future ones I add will have this information in full.
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Thanks that is all very useful. However not sure how worthwhile it is as they will all probably change again for Gamma.
 

Biteketkergetek

Biteketkergetek
What do fellow commanders think about adding system details to the json?

Example from my own JSON, data from Smacker's old pillage branch. I have not checked in a while if there were any updates...

Code: 
  {
   "system": "i Bootis",
   "x": -22.375,
   "y": 34.84375,
   "z": 4,
   "stations": [
    {
     "station": "Chango Dock",
     "distance": 1098,
     "shipyard": true,
     "outfitting": true,
     "commodities_market": true,
     "black_market": false,
     "valid": "Beta3"
    },
    {
     "station": "Maher Stellar Research",
     "distance": 20929,
     "shipyard": false,
     "outfitting": true,
     "commodities_market": false,
     "black_market": true,
     "valid": "Beta3"
    }
   ],
   "valid": "Beta3",
   "added": "Alpha4",
   "modified": "2014-10-21T17:16:31Z",
   "detail": {
    "population": -1,
    "allegiance": "Federation",
    "economy": "Industrial",
    "government": "Democracy",
    "valid": "Beta2"
   }
  }

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Smacker said:
No, using singular noun here is grammatically correct English.

e.g.
Slave market
Vegetable market
Drug market
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And would they be correct with a plural noun? "Vegetables market" and "Slaves market" sounds funny to me, but English is not my primary language.
 
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Codec

Codec
Looks good to me, the more data the better. I think shipyard should be a list of ships you can buy. I think they are fairly fixed.
Could do the same with outfitting, list of things to buy.
 

Smacker

Smacker
Biteketkergetek said:
And would they be correct with a plural noun? "Vegetables market" and "Slaves market" sounds funny to me, but English is not my primary language.
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Technically I don't know. To me the plural versions sound very wrong and I am a native English speaker.

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Codec said:
Looks good to me, the more data the better. I think shipyard should be a list of ships you can buy. I think they are fairly fixed.
Could do the same with outfitting, list of things to buy.
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Agreed. However we shouldn't worry too much as they will all be reset again probably.
 

maddavo

maddavo
wolverine2710 said:
So far it worked like this. Post your distances and optional calculated coordinates here. If using one of the many tools from the OP (higly preferred) you can submit coords to. RW most of the time at the end of the day tries to verify them and create a new TOR systems.json file. TOR is The One Refernce. Work is ongoing by TornSouls for TGR. This makes uploading distances/coords easy and the tools can use TGR to indicate to a user that a system has been done before. Hope this helps a bit.
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OK then, here are 25 systems - no stations in these systems, just for navigation and maybe mining. For these I used twelve reference systems and all return distances were within 0.005Ly. This is my first try at mapping systems so I hope I did it right.

Code: 
  {
    "name": "Cephei Sector ON-T B3-4",
    "calculated": true,
    "contributor": "Maddavo",
    "contributed": "2014-11-03T02:59:42.531Z",
    "distances": [
      {
        "system": "Sol",
        "distance": 84.85
      },
      {
        "system": "Eranin",
        "distance": 53.42
      },
      {
        "system": "Jula Oh",
        "distance": 119.97
      },
      {
        "system": "Pachanu",
        "distance": 97.62
      },
      {
        "system": "Yakan",
        "distance": 65.71
      },
      {
        "system": "Salarhul",
        "distance": 54.25
      },
      {
        "system": "Minawara",
        "distance": 59.44
      },
      {
        "system": "Ciguru",
        "distance": 33.98
      },
      {
        "system": "Tefenhua",
        "distance": 45.79
      },
      {
        "system": "Yanyan",
        "distance": 36.13
      },
      {
        "system": "Chongquan",
        "distance": 67.68
      },
      {
        "system": "Circios",
        "distance": 80.16
      }
    ],
    "x": -76,
    "y": 37.15625,
    "z": -6.5,
    "region":"Beta3"
  },
  {
    "name": "Cephei Sector ST-R B4-2",
    "calculated": true,
    "contributor": "Maddavo",
    "contributed": "2014-11-03T02:53:26.989Z",
    "distances": [
      {
        "system": "Sol",
        "distance": 91.76
      },
      {
        "system": "Eranin",
        "distance": 60.1
      },
      {
        "system": "Jula Oh",
        "distance": 116.38
      },
      {
        "system": "Pachanu",
        "distance": 94.86
      },
      {
        "system": "Yakan",
        "distance": 59.5
      },
      {
        "system": "Salarhul",
        "distance": 51.94
      },
      {
        "system": "Minawara",
        "distance": 62.24
      },
      {
        "system": "Ciguru",
        "distance": 36.41
      },
      {
        "system": "Tefenhua",
        "distance": 52.1
      },
      {
        "system": "Yanyan",
        "distance": 43.35
      },
      {
        "system": "Chongquan",
        "distance": 76.68
      },
      {
        "system": "Circios",
        "distance": 88.14
      }
    ],
    "x": -82.875,
    "y": 39.375,
    "z": -0.84375,
    "region":"Beta3"
  },
  {
    "name": "Herculis Sector EL-Y B4",
    "calculated": true,
    "contributor": "Maddavo",
    "contributed": "2014-11-03T02:48:12.066Z",
    "distances": [
      {
        "system": "Sol",
        "distance": 92.39
      },
      {
        "system": "Eranin",
        "distance": 56.67
      },
      {
        "system": "Jula Oh",
        "distance": 123.38
      },
      {
        "system": "Pachanu",
        "distance": 102.43
      },
      {
        "system": "Yakan",
        "distance": 65.47
      },
      {
        "system": "Salarhul",
        "distance": 58.8
      },
      {
        "system": "Minawara",
        "distance": 68.9
      },
      {
        "system": "Ciguru",
        "distance": 48.05
      },
      {
        "system": "Tefenhua",
        "distance": 51.69
      },
      {
        "system": "Yanyan",
        "distance": 40.12
      },
      {
        "system": "Chongquan",
        "distance": 79.44
      },
      {
        "system": "Circios",
        "distance": 84.57
      }
    ],
    "x": -77.65625,
    "y": 49.875,
    "z": 4.15625,
    "region":"Beta3"
  },
  {
    "name": "Herculis Sector CQ-Y B3",
    "calculated": true,
    "contributor": "Maddavo",
    "contributed": "2014-11-03T02:43:58.787Z",
    "distances": [
      {
        "system": "Sol",
        "distance": 91.45
      },
      {
        "system": "Eranin",
        "distance": 52.47
      },
      {
        "system": "Jula Oh",
        "distance": 127.01
      },
      {
        "system": "Pachanu",
        "distance": 105.7
      },
      {
        "system": "Yakan",
        "distance": 71.85
      },
      {
        "system": "Salarhul",
        "distance": 61.3
      },
      {
        "system": "Minawara",
        "distance": 67.09
      },
      {
        "system": "Ciguru",
        "distance": 55.68
      },
      {
        "system": "Tefenhua",
        "distance": 42.88
      },
      {
        "system": "Yanyan",
        "distance": 34.72
      },
      {
        "system": "Chongquan",
        "distance": 75.74
      },
      {
        "system": "Circios",
        "distance": 75.42
      }
    ],
    "x": -70.75,
    "y": 57.90625,
    "z": -2.21875,
    "region":"Beta3"
  },
  {
    "name": "Herculis Sector EL-Y B5",
    "calculated": true,
    "contributor": "Maddavo",
    "contributed": "2014-11-03T02:39:36.353Z",
    "distances": [
      {
        "system": "Sol",
        "distance": 86.21
      },
      {
        "system": "Eranin",
        "distance": 47.61
      },
      {
        "system": "Jula Oh",
        "distance": 131.63
      },
      {
        "system": "Pachanu",
        "distance": 110.18
      },
      {
        "system": "Yakan",
        "distance": 75.65
      },
      {
        "system": "Salarhul",
        "distance": 65.79
      },
      {
        "system": "Minawara",
        "distance": 71.12
      },
      {
        "system": "Ciguru",
        "distance": 53.72
      },
      {
        "system": "Tefenhua",
        "distance": 45.82
      },
      {
        "system": "Yanyan",
        "distance": 30.74
      },
      {
        "system": "Chongquan",
        "distance": 72.93
      },
      {
        "system": "Circios",
        "distance": 73.72
      }
    ],
    "x": -66.9375,
    "y": 54.3125,
    "z": 1.25,
    "region":"Beta3"
  },
  {
    "name": "Bei Dou Sector JC-V B2-4",
    "calculated": true,
    "contributor": "Maddavo",
    "contributed": "2014-11-03T02:34:55.783Z",
    "distances": [
      {
        "system": "Sol",
        "distance": 82.21
      },
      {
        "system": "Eranin",
        "distance": 42.24
      },
      {
        "system": "Jula Oh",
        "distance": 138.42
      },
      {
        "system": "Pachanu",
        "distance": 116.87
      },
      {
        "system": "Yakan",
        "distance": 82.71
      },
      {
        "system": "Salarhul",
        "distance": 72.37
      },
      {
        "system": "Minawara",
        "distance": 75.94
      },
      {
        "system": "Ciguru",
        "distance": 57.81
      },
      {
        "system": "Tefenhua",
        "distance": 46.69
      },
      {
        "system": "Yanyan",
        "distance": 26.47
      },
      {
        "system": "Chongquan",
        "distance": 70.61
      },
      {
        "system": "Circios",
        "distance": 68.81
      }
    ],
    "x": -60.15625,
    "y": 55.96875,
    "z": 2.625,
    "region":"Beta3"
  },
  {
    "name": "Bei Dou Sector JC-V B2-3",
    "calculated": true,
    "contributor": "Maddavo",
    "contributed": "2014-11-03T02:30:10.351Z",
    "distances": [
      {
        "system": "Sol",
        "distance": 84.78
      },
      {
        "system": "Eranin",
        "distance": 44.32
      },
      {
        "system": "Jula Oh",
        "distance": 136.63
      },
      {
        "system": "Pachanu",
        "distance": 115.12
      },
      {
        "system": "Yakan",
        "distance": 81.62
      },
      {
        "system": "Salarhul",
        "distance": 70.6
      },
      {
        "system": "Minawara",
        "distance": 73.85
      },
      {
        "system": "Ciguru",
        "distance": 59.43
      },
      {
        "system": "Tefenhua",
        "distance": 44.09
      },
      {
        "system": "Yanyan",
        "distance": 27.84
      },
      {
        "system": "Chongquan",
        "distance": 71.51
      },
      {
        "system": "Circios",
        "distance": 68.4
      }
    ],
    "x": -61.21875,
    "y": 58.65625,
    "z": 0.125,
    "region":"Beta3"
  },
  {
    "name": "Bei Dou Sector JC-V B2-0",
    "calculated": true,
    "contributor": "Maddavo",
    "contributed": "2014-11-03T02:25:26.588Z",
    "distances": [
      {
        "system": "Sol",
        "distance": 85.69
      },
      {
        "system": "Eranin",
        "distance": 45.29
      },
      {
        "system": "Jula Oh",
        "distance": 134.73
      },
      {
        "system": "Pachanu",
        "distance": 113.12
      },
      {
        "system": "Yakan",
        "distance": 80.33
      },
      {
        "system": "Salarhul",
        "distance": 68.58
      },
      {
        "system": "Minawara",
        "distance": 71.37
      },
      {
        "system": "Ciguru",
        "distance": 58.96
      },
      {
        "system": "Tefenhua",
        "distance": 41.67
      },
      {
        "system": "Yanyan",
        "distance": 28.09
      },
      {
        "system": "Chongquan",
        "distance": 70.98
      },
      {
        "system": "Circios",
        "distance": 67.98
      }
    ],
    "x": -62.21875,
    "y": 58.875,
    "z": -2.3125,
    "region":"Beta3"
  },
  {
    "name": "Bei Dou Sector JC-V B2-2",
    "calculated": true,
    "contributor": "Maddavo",
    "contributed": "2014-11-03T02:20:21.351Z",
    "distances": [
      {
        "system": "Sol",
        "distance": 84.41
      },
      {
        "system": "Eranin",
        "distance": 43.98
      },
      {
        "system": "Jula Oh",
        "distance": 135.6
      },
      {
        "system": "Pachanu",
        "distance": 113.91
      },
      {
        "system": "Yakan",
        "distance": 81.28
      },
      {
        "system": "Salarhul",
        "distance": 69.35
      },
      {
        "system": "Minawara",
        "distance": 71.72
      },
      {
        "system": "Ciguru",
        "distance": 58.67
      },
      {
        "system": "Tefenhua",
        "distance": 41.57
      },
      {
        "system": "Yanyan",
        "distance": 26.8
      },
      {
        "system": "Chongquan",
        "distance": 69.84
      },
      {
        "system": "Circios",
        "distance": 66.95
      }
    ],
    "x": -61.125,
    "y": 58.15625,
    "z": -2.40625,
    "region":"Beta3"
  },
  {
    "name": "Bei Dou Sector FW-W B1-2",
    "calculated": true,
    "contributor": "Maddavo",
    "contributed": "2014-11-03T02:11:00.559Z",
    "distances": [
      {
        "system": "Sol",
        "distance": 84.15
      },
      {
        "system": "Eranin",
        "distance": 42.61
      },
      {
        "system": "Jula Oh",
        "distance": 142.83
      },
      {
        "system": "Pachanu",
        "distance": 120.63
      },
      {
        "system": "Yakan",
        "distance": 94.17
      },
      {
        "system": "Salarhul",
        "distance": 76.92
      },
      {
        "system": "Minawara",
        "distance": 71.32
      },
      {
        "system": "Ciguru",
        "distance": 71.25
      },
      {
        "system": "Tefenhua",
        "distance": 30.63
      },
      {
        "system": "Yanyan",
        "distance": 26.77
      },
      {
        "system": "Chongquan",
        "distance": 63.59
      },
      {
        "system": "Circios",
        "distance": 50.78
      },
      {
        "system": "Slatus",
        "distance": 129.5
      },
      {
        "system": "Chini",
        "distance": 105.27
      },
      {
        "system": "Atum",
        "distance": 112.55
      }
    ],
    "x": -49,
    "y": 66.3125,
    "z": -16.8125,
    "region":"Beta3"
  },
  {
    "name": "Cephei Sector MN-T B3-0",
    "calculated": true,
    "contributor": "Maddavo",
    "contributed": "2014-11-03T07:40:03.903Z",
    "distances": [
      {
        "system": "Sol",
        "distance": 120.79
      },
      {
        "system": "Eranin",
        "distance": 89.12
      },
      {
        "system": "Cuages",
        "distance": 37.48
      },
      {
        "system": "Ciguru",
        "distance": 51.68
      },
      {
        "system": "Minawara",
        "distance": 55.86
      },
      {
        "system": "Yanyan",
        "distance": 71.11
      },
      {
        "system": "Yakan",
        "distance": 30.31
      },
      {
        "system": "Chara",
        "distance": 108.28
      },
      {
        "system": "Slatus",
        "distance": 188.74
      },
      {
        "system": "Chini",
        "distance": 165.99
      },
      {
        "system": "Atum",
        "distance": 164.22
      },
      {
        "system": "Circios",
        "distance": 111.98
      }
    ],
    "x": -111.25,
    "y": 46.65625,
    "z": -6.03125,
    "region": "Beta3"
  },
  {
    "name": "Cephei Sector IR-W C1-15",
    "calculated": true,
    "contributor": "Maddavo",
    "contributed": "2014-11-03T07:26:31.626Z",
    "distances": [
      {
        "system": "Sol",
        "distance": 106.97
      },
      {
        "system": "Eranin",
        "distance": 77.12
      },
      {
        "system": "Cuages",
        "distance": 42.55
      },
      {
        "system": "Ciguru",
        "distance": 38.71
      },
      {
        "system": "Minawara",
        "distance": 45.58
      },
      {
        "system": "Yanyan",
        "distance": 58.87
      },
      {
        "system": "Yakan",
        "distance": 42.93
      },
      {
        "system": "Chara",
        "distance": 95.12
      },
      {
        "system": "Slatus",
        "distance": 175.42
      },
      {
        "system": "Chini",
        "distance": 152.37
      },
      {
        "system": "Atum",
        "distance": 151.51
      },
      {
        "system": "Circios",
        "distance": 98.52
      }
    ],
    "x": -98.65625,
    "y": 38.4375,
    "z": -15.21875,
    "region": "Beta3"
  },
  {
    "name": "Cephei Sector IR-W C1-17",
    "calculated": true,
    "contributor": "Maddavo",
    "contributed": "2014-11-03T07:22:55.363Z",
    "distances": [
      {
        "system": "Sol",
        "distance": 109.04
      },
      {
        "system": "Eranin",
        "distance": 79.45
      },
      {
        "system": "Cuages",
        "distance": 39.72
      },
      {
        "system": "Ciguru",
        "distance": 39.09
      },
      {
        "system": "Minawara",
        "distance": 50.47
      },
      {
        "system": "Yanyan",
        "distance": 61.64
      },
      {
        "system": "Yakan",
        "distance": 39.99
      },
      {
        "system": "Chara",
        "distance": 97.71
      },
      {
        "system": "Slatus",
        "distance": 178.67
      },
      {
        "system": "Chini",
        "distance": 156.04
      },
      {
        "system": "Atum",
        "distance": 153.89
      },
      {
        "system": "Circios",
        "distance": 102.74
      }
    ],
    "x": -101.75,
    "y": 37.8125,
    "z": -10.375,
    "region": "Beta3"
  },
  {
    "name": "Cephei Sector IR-W C1-19",
    "calculated": true,
    "contributor": "Maddavo",
    "contributed": "2014-11-03T07:16:54.271Z",
    "distances": [
      {
        "system": "Sol",
        "distance": 111.44
      },
      {
        "system": "Eranin",
        "distance": 81.47
      },
      {
        "system": "Cuages",
        "distance": 38.62
      },
      {
        "system": "Ciguru",
        "distance": 41.43
      },
      {
        "system": "Minawara",
        "distance": 51.65
      },
      {
        "system": "Yanyan",
        "distance": 63.64
      },
      {
        "system": "Yakan",
        "distance": 37.71
      },
      {
        "system": "Chara",
        "distance": 99.93
      },
      {
        "system": "Slatus",
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        "system": "Chini",
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      {
        "system": "Circios",
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    "name": "Cephei Sector RT-R B4-0",
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        "system": "Eranin",
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      {
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      {
        "system": "Ciguru",
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      {
        "system": "Minawara",
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      {
        "system": "Yanyan",
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  },
  {
    "name": "Cephei Sector RT-R B4-1",
    "calculated": true,
    "contributor": "Maddavo",
    "contributed": "2014-11-03T07:05:03.527Z",
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        "system": "Eranin",
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      {
        "system": "Yanyan",
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      {
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  },
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    "calculated": true,
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        "system": "Eranin",
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        "system": "Minawara",
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        "system": "Ciguru",
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        "system": "Yanyan",
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  },
  {
    "name": "Cephei Sector RT-R B4-5",
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    "contributed": "2014-11-03T06:44:55.965Z",
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    "contributed": "2014-11-03T06:40:28.401Z",
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      {
        "system": "Minawara",
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      {
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      {
        "system": "Yakan",
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      {
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  },
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    "contributed": "2014-11-03T06:24:35.516Z",
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        "system": "Eranin",
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      {
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      {
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      {
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      {
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      {
        "system": "Chini",
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      {
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      {
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  },
  {
    "name": "Cephei Sector ON-T B3-3",
    "calculated": true,
    "contributor": "Maddavo",
    "contributed": "2014-11-03T06:20:18.570Z",
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      {
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        "distance": 81.75
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      {
        "system": "Eranin",
        "distance": 50.27
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      {
        "system": "Cuages",
        "distance": 67.41
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      {
        "system": "Ciguru",
        "distance": 34.52
      },
      {
        "system": "Minawara",
        "distance": 57.47
      },
      {
        "system": "Yanyan",
        "distance": 32.46
      },
      {
        "system": "Yakan",
        "distance": 69.26
      },
      {
        "system": "Chara",
        "distance": 68.39
      },
      {
        "system": "Slatus",
        "distance": 149.16
      },
      {
        "system": "Chini",
        "distance": 126.88
      },
      {
        "system": "Atum",
        "distance": 124.74
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      {
        "system": "Circios",
        "distance": 75.32
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    ],
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    "y": 36.8125,
    "z": -10.625,
    "region": "Beta3"
  }
 

Snuble

S
About to jump into once of the systems from Beta3 list without in game data. Can't even open system map before jumping to system. Bugas --- 5 - 4 - 3 - 2 - 1 - Refinery, 360 000 souls, 3 docks. Got big ship dock, so no nasty surprises, interesting planet/moon close to trading dock.
 

Biteketkergetek

Biteketkergetek
Codec said:
Looks good to me, the more data the better. I think shipyard should be a list of ships you can buy. I think they are fairly fixed.
Could do the same with outfitting, list of things to buy.
Click to expand...

Interesting. Basically earlier I thought the two lists systems/stations, and commodities/ships/components should be separate, but I keep them in one json file (linked above). Instead of doing it the way you've suggested I have them the other way around, ie. have them in a "vendors" list for all of commodities, ships and components.

But having them listed in the station data would be really better, since they are much more static, and station names will surely change. In addition to that there will be many stations, so listing all vendors for a commodity/ship/component in a single list can end up completely infeasible.

I would keep the bool values, though, because we need to recognise:

- no info (currently omitted or null for me)
- has no commodity_market (currently false)
- has commodity_market, but not known, which commodities are sold (currently true)
- has commodity_market with info on what commodities are sold

With just a list how do you differentiate having a commodity market but no data what is being sold? A null is very similar in concept to an empty list, but even if we assign different meanings to them, without an additional bool it would not be possible to distinguish all the above IMO.

Technically it's very easy for me to switch, or even use both formats ("vendors" list in commodity/ship/component vs "for_sale" list in station) at the same time (at least for import), because the data is kept in an sqlite database. I recreate the sqlite db from the json alone, so they have exactly the same information by me.
 
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Snuble

S
LP 734-32 (19,0:21,152:6,275), not in list (if I did not make another search typo, could be, but twice...), Refinery, 170261 souls, medium security. Star and metal astroids. No place to dock. Might be why it was not in list despite having a population.
 

RedWizzard

RedWizzard
maddavo said:
OK then, here are 25 systems - no stations in these systems, just for navigation and maybe mining. For these I used twelve reference systems and all return distances were within 0.005Ly. This is my first try at mapping systems so I hope I did it right.

Code: 
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    "name": "Cephei Sector ON-T B3-4",
    "calculated": true,
    "contributor": "Maddavo",
    "contributed": "2014-11-03T02:59:42.531Z",
    "distances": [
      {
        "system": "Sol",
        "distance": 84.85
      },
      {
        "system": "Eranin",
        "distance": 53.42
      },
      {
        "system": "Jula Oh",
        "distance": 119.97
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      {
        "system": "Pachanu",
        "distance": 97.62
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      {
        "system": "Yakan",
        "distance": 65.71
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      {
        "system": "Salarhul",
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      {
        "system": "Minawara",
        "distance": 59.44
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      {
        "system": "Ciguru",
        "distance": 33.98
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      {
        "system": "Tefenhua",
        "distance": 45.79
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      {
        "system": "Yanyan",
        "distance": 36.13
      },
      {
        "system": "Chongquan",
        "distance": 67.68
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      {
        "system": "Circios",
        "distance": 80.16
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    "region":"Beta3"
  },
  {
    "name": "Cephei Sector ST-R B4-2",
    "calculated": true,
    "contributor": "Maddavo",
    "contributed": "2014-11-03T02:53:26.989Z",
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        "distance": 91.76
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        "system": "Eranin",
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      {
        "system": "Jula Oh",
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      {
        "system": "Pachanu",
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      {
        "system": "Yakan",
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      {
        "system": "Salarhul",
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        "system": "Minawara",
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      {
        "system": "Ciguru",
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        "system": "Tefenhua",
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        "system": "Yanyan",
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        "system": "Chongquan",
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        "system": "Circios",
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    "name": "Herculis Sector EL-Y B4",
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    "contributed": "2014-11-03T02:48:12.066Z",
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        "system": "Eranin",
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      {
        "system": "Jula Oh",
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      {
        "system": "Pachanu",
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      {
        "system": "Yakan",
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      {
        "system": "Salarhul",
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      {
        "system": "Minawara",
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      {
        "system": "Ciguru",
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        "system": "Tefenhua",
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      {
        "system": "Yanyan",
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        "system": "Chongquan",
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  },
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    "name": "Herculis Sector CQ-Y B3",
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    "contributor": "Maddavo",
    "contributed": "2014-11-03T02:43:58.787Z",
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        "system": "Eranin",
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      {
        "system": "Jula Oh",
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      {
        "system": "Pachanu",
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      {
        "system": "Yakan",
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      {
        "system": "Salarhul",
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      {
        "system": "Minawara",
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      {
        "system": "Ciguru",
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      {
        "system": "Tefenhua",
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      {
        "system": "Yanyan",
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      {
        "system": "Chongquan",
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  {
    "name": "Herculis Sector EL-Y B5",
    "calculated": true,
    "contributor": "Maddavo",
    "contributed": "2014-11-03T02:39:36.353Z",
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        "system": "Eranin",
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      {
        "system": "Jula Oh",
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      {
        "system": "Pachanu",
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      {
        "system": "Yakan",
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      {
        "system": "Salarhul",
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      {
        "system": "Minawara",
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      {
        "system": "Ciguru",
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      {
        "system": "Tefenhua",
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        "system": "Yanyan",
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      {
        "system": "Chongquan",
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        "system": "Circios",
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  },
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        "distance": 137.52
      },
      {
        "system": "Atum",
        "distance": 131.98
      },
      {
        "system": "Circios",
        "distance": 87.62
      }
    ],
    "x": -80.5,
    "y": 37.1875,
    "z": 1.90625,
    "region": "Beta3"
  },
  {
    "name": "Col 285 Sector PY-R D4-132",
    "calculated": true,
    "contributor": "Maddavo",
    "contributed": "2014-11-03T06:24:35.516Z",
    "distances": [
      {
        "system": "Sol",
        "distance": 78.71
      },
      {
        "system": "Eranin",
        "distance": 50.25
      },
      {
        "system": "Cuages",
        "distance": 67.22
      },
      {
        "system": "Ciguru",
        "distance": 29.3
      },
      {
        "system": "Minawara",
        "distance": 67.22
      },
      {
        "system": "Yanyan",
        "distance": 35.52
      },
      {
        "system": "Yakan",
        "distance": 70.99
      },
      {
        "system": "Chara",
        "distance": 68.07
      },
      {
        "system": "Slatus",
        "distance": 150.62
      },
      {
        "system": "Chini",
        "distance": 129.92
      },
      {
        "system": "Atum",
        "distance": 123.45
      },
      {
        "system": "Circios",
        "distance": 81.59
      }
    ],
    "x": -72.6875,
    "y": 30.1875,
    "z": -0.4375,
    "region": "Beta3"
  },
  {
    "name": "Cephei Sector ON-T B3-3",
    "calculated": true,
    "contributor": "Maddavo",
    "contributed": "2014-11-03T06:20:18.570Z",
    "distances": [
      {
        "system": "Sol",
        "distance": 81.75
      },
      {
        "system": "Eranin",
        "distance": 50.27
      },
      {
        "system": "Cuages",
        "distance": 67.41
      },
      {
        "system": "Ciguru",
        "distance": 34.52
      },
      {
        "system": "Minawara",
        "distance": 57.47
      },
      {
        "system": "Yanyan",
        "distance": 32.46
      },
      {
        "system": "Yakan",
        "distance": 69.26
      },
      {
        "system": "Chara",
        "distance": 68.39
      },
      {
        "system": "Slatus",
        "distance": 149.16
      },
      {
        "system": "Chini",
        "distance": 126.88
      },
      {
        "system": "Atum",
        "distance": 124.74
      },
      {
        "system": "Circios",
        "distance": 75.32
      }
    ],
    "x": -72.21875,
    "y": 36.8125,
    "z": -10.625,
    "region": "Beta3"
  }
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Thanks. I'll add these to my file tomorrow - I need to make some changes to my tools to check 2dp distances first.
 

Little Angel

Little Angel
So, without back-reading 70 some pages (and I've been trying to follow along...)

As posted earlier, I'm working on a companion app that I can run alongside my game, with a star map and a method of recording data that I'd want to use in game...

A few questions...

Is there a semi-stable list that I should use when working with this tool? Or is it too early?

When gathering data from the game, what is the best way to get information from a star system in game? Is this purely trying to triangulate the location from checking the distance from know stars? Or is there another way to extract location data on a per-star basis from the Galactic Map as a player?

if I successfully gather data, what is the best way to contribute to this effort?

Are these coordinates (whether Galactic or Sol centric) calibrated in lightyears? Or is there another scale for the V3 position? In my rough tests, I wasn't sure that the map was calibrating properly to jump distance, but I've not yet confirmed or denied this.

Lastly, tho' it seems that you are all hip deep in working this, is there anything I can do to help? (Other than potentially contribute star data?)
 

Biteketkergetek

Biteketkergetek
RedWizzard said:
Thanks. I'll add these to my file tomorrow - I need to make some changes to my tools to check 2dp distances first.
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Perhaps you could add them to another branch (named "incoming" or "next" for example) of your github project, if you wish others to check them. Or I can just do it with my tool, but I fear the result might be confusing since I cannot easily state explicitly which data I'm checking. When it's up then at least the commit hash could be referenced.
 

Codec

Codec
I was thinking how you might use the data, and browsing a system and seeing it had type-9's usually in stock would be useful. Also for data entry, if you are at a station, you can type in everything associated with it.

Actually - another field while we're at it would be type of station. Orbis, Ocellus, Corlois etc. The types may become important.
 

Snuble

S
@Little Angel. If your html/javascript is good, you could try to take my html5-screenshot coord and make it available online for quicker system coordinate (a couple of pages back).

Distances are very good matches from in game if you use the released coordinates and use the 3d vector length calculation.

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Codec said:
I was thinking how you might use the data, and browsing a system and seeing it had type-9's usually in stock would be useful. Also for data entry, if you are at a station, you can type in everything associated with it.

Actually - another field while we're at it would be type of station. Orbis, Ocellus, Corlois etc. The types may become important.
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I think station type was already in the json.
 

Biteketkergetek

Biteketkergetek
Little Angel said:
So, without back-reading 70 some pages (and I've been trying to follow along...)

As posted earlier, I'm working on a companion app that I can run alongside my game, with a star map and a method of recording data that I'd want to use in game...

A few questions...

Is there a semi-stable list that I should use when working with this tool? Or is it too early?

When gathering data from the game, what is the best way to get information from a star system in game? Is this purely trying to triangulate the location from checking the distance from know stars? Or is there another way to extract location data on a per-star basis from the Galactic Map as a player?

if I successfully gather data, what is the best way to contribute to this effort?

Are these coordinates (whether Galactic or Sol centric) calibrated in lightyears? Or is there another scale for the V3 position? In my rough tests, I wasn't sure that the map was calibrating properly to jump distance, but I've not yet confirmed or denied this.

Lastly, tho' it seems that you are all hip deep in working this, is there anything I can do to help? (Other than potentially contribute star data?)
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I think the one true source is the RedWizzard's project. It is frequently updated. I also tend to update
my project often, as it is needed for my starchart, but it uses a slightly different JSON format which is subject to change (still being discussed). My data is within data/elite.json file. I frequently pull the data from Smacker's TD fork, you might find it to be a good source, too.

Coordinates are in light years, and are the same in Beta 2 and Beta 3 relative to Sol.
 

Harbinger

Volunteer Moderator
Harbinger
RedWizzard said:
If you're only including changes you'll need some way of indicating when a system should be deleted. Probably easiest to change the region to 'delete' or something like that.
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I'll do that.

RedWizzard said:
I've just imported your latest batch of updates so my systems.json should be up to date. The only change I didn't bring across was the region change for G 205-38. You've marked it as "outside Beta3" but it's only got 4 distances so I think it's position is still not verified.
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It's distance was correct in the galaxy map although I only checked it's distance from 1 other system (can't recall which). Perhaps you need a further confirmation of it's distance to confirm that the coordinates are still correct but it's definitely outside the beta 3 sausage now.

Snuble said:
For bases, there also need to be a field that stores what ships sizes a dock can take. I've just run into a dock at FN Virginis that did not let my Lakon 6 land. This is data that will be important when we start trading. Or just want the closest system that can refuel and restock that Anaconda...
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It's difficult to know the answer to this unless you test every ship type on each platform. I think it's sufficient to do as I'm doing and record the space station type be it an Orbis, Coriolis, Ocellus or [Variation] Outpost. I believe platforms don't tend to support larger vessels so as long as the user knows it's a platform they can probably safely assume they can't land their type 9 or anaconda there.

Biteketkergetek said:
Suggestion: as I understand value null in JSON usually means that the value missing. Therefore I think null would be much better for the new boolean fields instead of "unknown".
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You're right, I'll switch it to null if it's currently "unknown" although I do intend to fill in the blanks for the ones currently listed as "unknown" at some point today.
 
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Biteketkergetek

Biteketkergetek
Harbinger said:
You're right, I'll switch it to null if it's currently "unknown" although I do intend to fill in the blanks for the ones currently listed as "unknown" at some point today.
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Wow, you are fast. If you happen to have a git repo for the data, at least you can check the nulls in for documentation purposes, even if you fix them soon. :)
 

Athan

Athan
Harbinger said:
It's difficult to know the answer to this unless you test every ship type on each platform. I think it's sufficient to do as I'm doing and record the space station type be it an Orbis, Coriolis, Ocellus or [Variation] Platform. I believe platforms don't tend to support larger vessels so as long as the user knows it's a platform they can probably safely assume they can't land their type 9 or anaconda there.
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The edge case you need to consider are the ships that will fit on Medium or Large, but not Small landing pads. Some outposts have only Small, others have some Small and a Medium. Some systems, with economies, only have outposts.

So, if not storing this info then you leave Medium ship pilots, such as when flying an Asp, to guess if a station with only outposts will allow them to land.

Store the max size of pad a station has. For most this will be Large, for most outposts likely Small, but for some it will be Medium.

The issue is with being sure to differentiate the Small/Medium outposts. It's no always obvious where, if it exists, the Medium pad is relative to the Small one you land on.
 
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