ED always has an influx of returning players during times of updates/patches , any correlation to this being directly the result of "helping n00b Cmnders" is a purely speculative opinion. How many of these were genuine new players? There is no answer anyone outside of FD can give.
What to do about Griefers
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ED always has an influx of returning players during times of updates/patches , any correlation to this being directly the result of "helping n00b Cmnders" is a purely speculative opinion. How many of these were genuine new players? There is no answer anyone outside of FD can give.
You keep initiating all the conversations though.
Sorry, Fuel Rats, noble as they may be, are fair game in Open play. I would never kill one, but I’m sure someone can come up with an in-game reason to do so. And they have, I’m sure. Not that they need one because killing someone in Open for any reason is allowed, regardless of intent.
And FDev didn’t create the Fuel Rats, the community did. Surely you aren’t suggesting that FDev god hand special protection for one emergently created player group over another?
I mean, your comment starts out saying basically “if you click Open them’s the breaks” but then basically cut any non-consensual PvP off at the knees with outrageously draconian consequences like charging the attacker full rebuys for their murders or permabans from the game. Pick a side already.
Ah, i see. So you are not aware of the people who got bans for using cheats, including the guy who lost around 10 accounts due to cheating?
I never once said Open should change. Here's a cut and paste from my original post #384
There. About 600% done with the thesis now
I never once said Open should change. Here's a cut and paste from my original post #384
There. About 600% done with the thesis now
I wholeheartedly apologize - I skim read your posts and imagined you'd advocated a change to Open.
In my defence I'm on a smartphone.
Fly safe & good hunting
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I have personally oft supported that idea... however the carrot there has to be it NOT waiting for you to click ok after the countdown. if the phone rings or the doorbell goes i do need to answer but at the same time i do not want to lose 20 milion credits and all my bounties plus my npc just because of a spam call which 80% of the time it is.]
so sure, give it an extra 10 seconds or what ever on the log out, but let me boost, go FA off and log out taking my chances but DO actually log me out after the countdown!.
so ramming player deliberately in a manner such to exploit holes in the security and not set them off? I am not fully saying that is griefing but it definitely fits your definition above... and is iirc what the OP has issue with.
in open players should expect to be attacked potentially... however being attacked by players abusing holes in the games ai logic?
I am not sure sure.... indeed it was code players doing exactly that (along with irritating "chat" on the open comms) which made me leave open. 90 mins to hutton only to be rammed to death by ships whilst code players tied up the landing bays and getting laughed at for the privalage... No taa!. Not that I am afraid of it, indeed i quite liked the idea of some proper piracy, but that kind of thing is just tiresomme and offers no positives for me to allow players to be in my game.
another problem is the cheaters..... not all PvPers are cheaters.... not even the majority, but after seeing some of the more vocal "git gud" PvPers having their toys taken off them for cheating - and that is only the ones who were honest enough to admit they had been caught cheating... how many kept quiet? Sadly that has removed any faith i have in any of the PvPers. Hell even in CQC there are people who use hacks, and that is consequence free PvP.
The minority there sow seeds of doubt which marr the whole pvp community from my perspective. (and many others who even claim not to cheat will still defend those, and contine to play with those who do.
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And how many loggers?
You mean people who pull the cable or task kill? No idea, not something i've ever seen any info on. My answer was in relation to your previous comment, which made no mention of loggers. You just made a blanket statement which is false based off public statements made by cheaters who lost accounts.
And don’t be done unless you’re actually done, lest you become a new forum meme.
oh i will call greifers and trolls scumbags, because thats exactly what they are. they only play to make people quit. instead of actual PVP where they rollplay (mostly).
But for a large portion of the loggers and cheaters they do not get banned, yes its case by case but not enough is being done to tackle the issue.
They play to enjoy themselves like the rest of us, there will always be a losing side to a battle and not everyone on the losing side takes it well. People can rage quit cause they lost and these people play because they enjoy what they do and just because you see it as an unacceptable way to play the game doesn't make them a scumbag, they aren't committing a crime they are just enjoying the game.
actually, they play to make people behind the monitor screen and Holo Me Cmndr miserable. Ruining other player's online enjoyment is their emergent PvP game play experience, and how they get their kicks.
When they succeed in driving away other players into PG & Solo, they finally realize they've screwed the pooch. You see they finally realize they've run out of sufficient targets to gank.
That's when they slink away back to real life. Make numerous posts on here begging and/or encouraging PvE players to return to Open. Or bragging about how superior they are for being brave enough to play in Open. So other players should stop being cry babies and Get Gud. And post even more useless complaint petitions to FDev like restricting PP to Open. Or granting them bonus rewards like more Arx etc. given the extra risk they have to endure in Open.......
When they succeed in driving away other players into PG & Solo, they finally realize they've screwed the pooch. You see they finally realize they've run out of sufficient targets to gank.
That's when they slink away back to real life. Make numerous posts on here begging and/or encouraging PvE players to return to Open. Or bragging about how superior they are for being brave enough to play in Open. So other players should stop being cry babies and Get Gud. And post even more useless complaint petitions to FDev like restricting PP to Open. Or granting them bonus rewards like more Arx etc. given the extra risk they have to endure in Open.......
Do you have any evidence to support this assertion? Maybe they get 24h bans for a first offence or something & you just don't notice.
they get their kicks by making everyone else miserable. actual PVP doesn't make someone a troll or greifer, what trolls and greifers do is not actual PVP. hovering above a port blowing people away before they have a chance to take off is trolling/greifing, ramming someone until they blow up as soon as they exit the mail slot is trolling greifing. resetting your account just to get into the newbie area just to blow the newbs away is trolling /greifing. how can anyone defend that behavior is beyond me, it make me think that they are trolls greifers themselves. crap like that slowly kills the game, it takes players to support the game to keep it running and continue its development. with the greifers and trolls running people away from the game how long do you think that'll last, plenty of games have died due to that.
for many people cheating is fun, just because you can doesn't mean you should.
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