Why can't I see all the bad?

That’s not what I said. But never mind, if being angry makes you happy go for it. I’m going back to the completely unplayable garbage game that’s so much worse than horizons. I really should know better than to even read these forums, let alone post on them.
Well, you don't really, do you, member since 2015 with 8 posts, 2 of them in this thread.
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I think the lesson here is if you want to avoid this type of heartache then don't be an early adopter. I'm not saying it's right but this is what we've got and it happens in Elite: Dangerous and every single other game that I regularly play.
Then maybe don't pretend what's being released isn't for early adopters so we could make that informed decision.
Yes they do, all the time. That’s 4158 reviews out of a player base of 500k odd ( according to rumour ). A lot of people didn’t buy it through steam. A lot of other people won’t leave a review unless they are unhappy about it. Clearly there are thousands of unhappy players though and FDev need to sort it. I suspect that way more than 31% of the playerbase are actively playing and enjoying Odyssey though, despite the many “features”.
Plent of newly released games on steam with positive and mostly positive review scores, makes me wonder why all the Odyssey happy players can't take two minutes out of their hard core playing time to leave a positive review (or maybe it's because Steam will only allow actual owners of the game to leave reviews).

Super super positive members, accounts from brand new all the way back to 2015, generally with less than 20 posts and all sound the same: Awesome addition, bugs yes, but definitely will be fixed in time, some give a fun rendition of a mission they played thru, then you've got those account with the slightly off English, sounding for all the world like Eagle Boy. None of them ever mention the fact that an alpha was being missold as a release version, just that most software releases these days, unfortunately, are sold far too early but that's now an industry standard...
 
Well, you don't really, do you, member since 2015 with 8 posts, 2 of them in this thread.

Then maybe don't pretend what's being released isn't for early adopters so we could make that informed decision.

Plent of newly released games on steam with positive and mostly positive review scores, makes me wonder why all the Odyssey happy players can't take two minutes out of their hard core playing time to leave a positive review (or maybe it's because Steam will only allow actual owners of the game to leave reviews).

Super super positive members, accounts from brand new all the way back to 2015, generally with less than 20 posts and all sound the same: Awesome addition, bugs yes, but definitely will be fixed in time, some give a fun rendition of a mission they played thru, then you've got those account with the slightly off English, sounding for all the world like Eagle Boy. None of them ever mention the fact that an alpha was being missold as a release version, just that most software releases these days, unfortunately, are sold far too early but that's now an industry standard...
Perhaps those "new guys" in forums are people who either got the game recently, and liked what they saw, or old veterans who have not played ED for a long time. I have about 1.5 khours in game, about 48 hours now in Odyssey and I mostly like what I saw and got. There are rough edges and some rather nasty bugs, but I do know those things will be patched over. Some years to future and we see in these forums again stuff like "this new dlc is pure excrement, Odyssey is better, I will refund now...open letter to Fdev..I demand apology"
 
Perhaps those "new guys" in forums are people who either got the game recently, and liked what they saw, or old veterans who have not played ED for a long time. I have about 1.5 khours in game, about 48 hours now in Odyssey and I mostly like what I saw and got. There are rough edges and some rather nasty bugs, but I do know those things will be patched over. Some years to future and we see in these forums again stuff like "this new dlc is pure excrement, Odyssey is better, I will refund now...open letter to Fdev..I demand apology"
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True. All things are possible...
Matthew 19:26.....But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
Now I recall "politics and religion" being inappropriate on the forums, and the moderators even found way to censor my comment about investors as "politics", so I know this wont fly....
 
Plent of newly released games on steam with positive and mostly positive review scores, makes me wonder why all the Odyssey happy players can't take two minutes out of their hard core playing time to leave a positive review (or maybe it's because Steam will only allow actual owners of the game to leave reviews).
I don't think steam would let me leave a review for a product I didn't buy from their store, will they?
 
Take the most dull looking planet, land on dullest plain. Them complain that Odyssey planet tech is garbage. Yeah one could do likewise in Horizons too.
Hilarious! Screenmonster posts a pic to prove ED:O looks better than ED:H and those defending ED:O think it looks like crap. You can't make this stuff up.
 
What point are you trying to make? You asked us to imaging playing Odyssey without having our own ships.

Firstly, I don't have to imagine, I was in the Alpha. Secondly, we do have our own ships, so your point is moot.
Simply that Odyssey brings almost nothing in terms of gameplay compared to Horizon.
 
Then maybe don't pretend what's being released isn't for early adopters so we could make that informed decision.

Member since 2016, saw the initial release of Elite: Dangerous and uses this as a comeback? Wow! You knew what you were getting and don't deny it. This rollout is no worse than the initial Elite: Dangerous release which you were here for. You know what the state of the art entails, you've been here before, you made an informed decision.
 
Some people are glass-half-full, some are glass-half-empty. The empty ones are unhappy - as ever 🤷‍♀️

They'll carry on being unhappy whatever fdev do.
I kind of teeter between light grey knight and doomsayer, depending on bugs and crashes. As a sith I obviously only see things in absolutes 😉

But it's hard to stay positive on Ps4 when the adverts read like this...

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I posted the IRL picture of a salt flat when some dude accused me of maliciously and deliberately posting a bugged screenshot where the texture hadn't loaded, when the texture had in fact loaded and was pretty much spot on.

As in, my screenshot (and thus ED:O) was no more "missing textures" than an actual photograph.
All right :)
 
You are totally right but poor implementation, execution and release may cause irreparable reputation that harm the long-term future of the game or even its demise... that would truly be sad day for all of us!

If that were true the game wouldn't have made it past 2015.

I have confidence in Frontier to make stuff work just like they did after the initial release in 2014 which was also an abomination. The DOOOOM posting won't make them work faster.
 
If that were true the game wouldn't have made it past 2015.

I have confidence in Frontier to make stuff work just like they did after the initial release in 2014 which was also an abomination. The DOOOOM posting won't make them work faster.

no, bad publicity impacting sales does. And that's what's being accomplished in this release as compared to the previous releases that have had the same kind of "release before ready" issues but happened to be more constrained in scope. Those others that didn't, tend to be fixed just enough to not be totally broken and then abandoned - only to have iterative updates across months if not years if you're lucky.
 
it's not like people are saying it wont get better. They're sick of having to wait for it to get fixed after every release that follows a testing period (both internal and external) where we're seeing problems already identified still existing in the final product. They're tired of this selling of early access quality software while it takes advantage of being labeled as not.

That's not doom posting. That's posting with appropriate expectations. That's having those expectations not met release after release and giving them the benefit of the doubt each time and finally having enough. If fdev has to be spanked it's only after they've been asking for it so hard for so long - not because a bunch of players are being irrational suddenly.

I'll update my review when the game is working the way it should. That's how reviews are supposed to work. Not faked based on some hypothetical future where you think it'll be good. Reviews aren't permanent.
 

Fixed it for ya!

So you're basically saying, and correct me if I'm wrong, that the previous releases had similar issues which Frontier fixed but for some reason won't be able to fix this time? Please tell me you didn't mean that because typing it made my brain think my fingers were crazy.
 
Perhaps somebodies had unrealistic expectations? We DO know track record of Fdevs releases. All of them had major and minor problems at release. But most of those got fixed over the time. Horizons that nowadays is praised like gold standard was anything but such when it was released. Likewise minor releases during its update cycle.
 
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