I, personally, find flying, the act of piloting my ship extremely fun. With that, I find much of what I can do with my ship while flying it great fun. Granted, there are some points of the game could be more fun. I have never been a big fan of exploration, new or old, but that doesn't make the whole game more fun.
I have to point out the subjectivity of the word: fun. You're going to have offer some examples of your issue, and some ideas on what you would as fun. Other wise we're just going around tilting with wind mills. Offer something to work with at least. Vague notions are useless.
I have to point out the subjectivity of the word: fun. You're going to have offer some examples of your issue, and some ideas on what you would as fun. Other wise we're just going around tilting with wind mills. Offer something to work with at least. Vague notions are useless.
This is possibly the most singularly realistic aspect of the game.
As soon as space flight gets out of it's infancy, we will be fighting and killing each other in outer space. It won't look like Elite, but weapons and gear designed to combat other spacefarers will be omnipresent and of high priority.
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Op must be a real hoot to watch any SciFi movie with, I wonder what he says about Star Wars, Star Trek, Babylon 5, Firefly - well anything set in space.
By the way, how does the OP know what actually happens in space, has he spent time on the International Space Station, participated in the Apollo Landings or is he just sprouting his normal biowaste yet again?
By the way, how does the OP know what actually happens in space, has he spent time on the International Space Station, participated in the Apollo Landings or is he just sprouting his normal biowaste yet again?
Oh wow, another troll thread for the naysayers to have their bashing at the game sustenance. They must be starving to do so with ED back in the top 50 on steamcharts and just 10 away from EuroTruck Simulator and their joy at the bandwagon "shaming" by NMS-next and X4 now over, how sad...for them. I doubt if ED somehow incorporated FSX, Prepar3D or X-Plane onto Earth or any ELW instance with all the FAA navspace structure and compatibility with FSX addons, the trolls will still say ED falls far short of a sim of any kind, when ED is factually just the best spacesim game in scope and scale ever made, LYs ahead of the competition or similar efforts so far.
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*Sigh* Nope, you still don't know what the term space sim means. It was explained several times in this thread.
Well, space sims have never been completely true to reality. ED's prequels have been space sims, most notably Frontier and First Encounters, and ED is still the one game that is most true to this roots. Yeah, it compromises a lot already which I am not happy about, but it still is much more true to the genre than other games set in space. The galaxy simulation, FA off flight model mostly (no, alas not the flight model in general), simulation of gravity, planet surfaces are no wonderlands but look pretty realistic in most cases, star types are taken from astronomic sources, there is the Sol system modelled after the real thing, with most orbits, sizes and distances being accurate (and yes, there is a lot missing), no artificial gravity (in reality we don't even know what gravity really is...) and so on...
These, and many more, are the things that make Elite pretty much a space sim. You can only miss those if you play it like a space combat game and never look around much I guess.
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FIFA is a sports game. You aren't doing any sport though. Unless you are calling gaming a sport but in that case every game would be a sports game. The genre term space sim is being used for games like Elite since at least 25 years (that's when I first heard it) by the gaming media, players and developers.
People are of course right when they say that Elite isn't a realistic simulation, but that's not what the term suggests. You need to remember what most other games looked like when the term was first used. Take a look at Pong, Space Invaders or Pac-Man. Now compare that to Elite and you realise why people called it a space sim. That's where the term comes from and the reason it's still used today, Elite defined the genre way before real simulators even existed.
Some other notable space sims:
Wing Commander: A space sim.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wing_Commander_(franchise)
Freelancer: A space sim.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freelancer_(video_game)
Freespace: A space sim.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeSpace_2
X: A space sim.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_(video_game_series)
As you can see none of these games are realistic simulators, but they are all called space sim. That's not because the name describes the game, but because that's how the genre is defined. That's how language works, it isn't always descriptive and the meaning can be something completely different than the words suggest. I could just as well argue that the Super Bowl isn't a sport event but something in your kitchen.
People are of course right when they say that Elite isn't a realistic simulation, but that's not what the term suggests. You need to remember what most other games looked like when the term was first used. Take a look at Pong, Space Invaders or Pac-Man. Now compare that to Elite and you realise why people called it a space sim. That's where the term comes from and the reason it's still used today, Elite defined the genre way before real simulators even existed.
Some other notable space sims:
Wing Commander: A space sim.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wing_Commander_(franchise)
Freelancer: A space sim.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freelancer_(video_game)
Freespace: A space sim.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeSpace_2
X: A space sim.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_(video_game_series)
As you can see none of these games are realistic simulators, but they are all called space sim. That's not because the name describes the game, but because that's how the genre is defined. That's how language works, it isn't always descriptive and the meaning can be something completely different than the words suggest. I could just as well argue that the Super Bowl isn't a sport event but something in your kitchen.
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If you realize it sucks as a game, call it a "flight sim."
If you realize it's not realistic at all, call it "just a game."
Those are the rules.
If you realize it's not realistic at all, call it "just a game."
Those are the rules.
Of course it is a space sim. Am guessing you are one of those people that seem to think only LeveL-D simulators and dekstop study sims are worthy of the title? Get outta here.. Multi million dollar Level-D sims are not even able to accurately replicate reality. The term simulator covers a broad range.
Actually I believe the flight model is physically correct. It's is debatable if a speed cap makes sense, but that doesn't stop it from being simulated correctly. And yes, fly by wire is a real thing and a speed cap as well. Many cars have it.
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Flight model is Newtonian with a FBW flight control law. Would be nice if they added a modified C* Law when atmospheric flight comes into play, highly doubt it though.
