Modes Why does PvP in open even exist ???

[Dietger]

Discuss, as per title.
Why does PvP in OPEN even exist?

Keep it civil!
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PvP in Open needs an implementation.
Or does it?

Is PvP already implanted?
Why so?

Where is PvP focus in Open?
If PvP is not, why allow it in the fist place?
Is PvP in Open an abuse?

At last, you can (be) hardly allowed to create a play stile out off of threaten involuntary players?
Or can you?




Are PvP players abused in Elite Dangerous Open mode?
To be, and not to have any right to be there?

Please Discuss

 

[Robert Maynard]

Simply because it is possible to target another player, in exactly the same way as targeting an NPC.

 

[Dietger]

Simply because it is possible to target another player, in exactly the same way as targeting an NPC.

That's all?

Start and End to it right there?

 

[Asp Explorer]

That's all?

Start and End to it right there?

That's all there needs to be.

 

[Dietger]

That's all there needs to be.

Basically, PvP is used for ganking and griefing? Abuse of others?

 

[Goose4291]

I totally 100% want to have this discussion, so much so Im henceforth declaring a morotarium on gifs, hyperbole or sarcastic comments from myself throughout this thread, assuming the usual cowbag-ness doesnt occur.

Any of the usual players care to join me in this proposal?

 

[Dietger]

I totally 100% want to have this discussion, so much so Im henceforth declaring a morotarium on gifs, hyperbole or sarcastic comments from myself throughout this thread, assuming the usual cowbag-ness doesnt occur.

Any of the usual players care to join me in this proposal?

Count me in.

 

[Havvk]

Because PvP is a playstyle that lots of people enjoy. Until the NPCs in this game are actually given a buff and can use tactics and engineered ships/modules that players can use, the only true danger in this game is other Commanders.

 

[Dietger]

Because PvP is a playstyle that lots of people enjoy. Until the NPCs in this game are actually given a buff and can use tactics and engineered ships/modules that players can use, the only true danger in this game is other Commanders.

So Frontier's stopping PvP in Open by way of implementing proper NPCs?

PvP players are bored PvE players basically?

 

[Mouse]

PVP in Open exists for you to make it what you want it to be.

It is a sandbox, you give it purpose.

Do you want massive PVP wars? Organize them.

Want to test yourself Ironman style, do so and delete your commander if someone manages to kill you.

Want a PVP only universe where everyone knows it and is looking for it? Start a PVP PG.


Just like everything else in the game PVP is there to have fun with and its direction is controlled by the players. If "Basically, PvP is used for ganking and griefing? Abuse of others?" is what the players have decided that PVP is for then it is the players fault for why PVP is disliked by others. If you don't want PVP to mean that... then wrest control of it and turn it back into something positive.


Combat, Trading, Exploration... the 3 "tiers"... none of them are directed all are sandboxed all are choices as well. PVP... well aside from CQC you could say it is the invisible "tier". Unlike the others the player chooses which title they are at. And just like the others it's direction depends on you.

 

[Havvk]

So Frontier's stopping PvP in Open by way of implementing proper NPCs?

PvP players are bored PvE players basically?

No. That was just an attempt at hinting that the NPC's are a joke and should be more of a challenge. But that's a different thing to talk about, let's not derail a PvP topic.

But ya, PvP players are probably players who are sick of the PvE in this game, so the only thing left is each other.

 

[Mouse]

Because PvP is a playstyle that lots of people enjoy. Until the NPCs in this game are actually given a buff and can use tactics and engineered ships/modules that players can use, the only true danger in this game is other Commanders.

I disagree only because for some NPCs are not a "true" danger, for others they are.

No. That was just an attempt at hinting that the NPC's are a joke and should be more of a challenge. But that's a different thing to talk about, let's not derail a PvP topic.

But ya, PvP players are probably players who are sick of the PvE in this game, so the only thing left is each other.

Again I will disagree,

There are all types of PVP players. Yes some may be sick of the PVE in the game, but there are many who enjoy the crap out of both. And it would be great if they had each other, the problem is when they go after PVErs instead.

 

[Havvk]

No. That was just an attempt at hinting that the NPC's are a joke and should be more of a challenge. But that's a different thing to talk about, let's not derail a PvP topic.

But ya, PvP players are probably players who are sick of the PvE in this game, so the only thing left is each other.

Wait, this is modes subforum.

 

[Dietger]

But ya, PvP players are probably players who are sick of the PvE in this game, so the only thing left is each other.

Which in itself would be innocent.

But why do PvP players threaten Players, not the least, interested in PvP?

 

[Havvk]

I disagree only because for some NPCs are not a "true" danger, for others they are.




Again I will disagree,

There are all types of PVP players. Yes some may be sick of the PVE in the game, but there are many who enjoy the crap out of both. And it would be great if they had each other, the problem is when they go after PVErs instead.

There's hardly a difference between harmless AI and "Elite" AI. Also I mentioned "Probably" about the PvP players, I was hoping that somebody would understand that it did not mean all PvP players but I guess I am yet again wrong on everything. Go figure

Which in itself would be innocent.

But why do PvP players threaten Players, not the least, interested in PvP?

Don't know, and to be honest I don't care

 

[bladebss]

Well bounty hunting and piracy are legitimate pvp content.

Now thats not to say that these two things are actualy viable or even possable to some degree in pvp but they at least are intended to be as far as i know.

 

[Jockey79]

Discuss, as per title.
Why does PvP in OPEN even exist?

Keep it civil!
-------------------------------------------


PvP in Open needs an implementation.
Or does it?

Is PvP already implanted?
Why so?

Where is PvP focus in Open?
If PvP is not, why allow it in the fist place?
Is PvP in Open an abuse?

At last, you can (be) hardly allowed to create a play stile out off of threaten involuntary players?
Or can you?




Are PvP players abused in Elite Dangerous Open mode?
To be, and not to have any right to be there?

Please Discuss

Why does PvP in OPEN even exist? == Because Frontier said so.

PvP in Open needs an implementation.
Or does it? == It has been implemented, which is why you can PvP

Is PvP already implanted?
Why so? == Player Versus Player is in game, players can fight other plays if they choose to fight.

Where is PvP focus in Open? == As Elite: Dangerous isn't a game focused for PvP, there isn't any. PvP is an optional style of play.

Is PvP in Open an abuse? == No, it is an optional part of the game. People don't have to play Open or PvP.

At last, you can (be) hardly allowed to create a play stile out off of threaten involuntary players?
Or can you? == I don't understand this question.

 

[zombieapocalypse]

At last, you can (be) hardly allowed to create a play stile out off of threaten involuntary players?

Well, you also have little choice over whether NPCs decide to attack you. I almost exclusively play open, yet in four years I've only been attacked by other Commanders on a handful of occassions. NPCs, on the other hand, never seem to leave me alone! It's lucky they're so damn useless!

 

[AP Birdman]

Because cqc sucks!

 

[Jockey79]

Because cqc sucks!

That would be okay if they added NPCs to help fill up slots.