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Why is ship interiors something that is not planned to be included if at least half the player base wants it?
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How can Pranav feel festive after that comment?The Santa cap is missing...
The most easily satisfied is not the same thing as lowest quality, though, is it? Satisfaction is dependent on a certain amount of quality. The issue is more how much satisfaction can be delivered with the resources available.
The point is more that all the people who want ship interiors and are very vocal about it don't actually know how much of the player base want ship interiors and how badly, nor (from a business perspective) whether it is financially worthwhile Frontier implementing them.
If we take the basic principle that Frontier are reasonable competent (despite the Odyssey disappointment), we have to take as an assumption that Frontier are capable of estimating whether the added value of ship interiors is worth the resource cost to make them. The lack of ship interiors - whether at this point in time or ever - is everyone's answer. Or to put another way, if it were readily doable and would easily improve player experience (earn lots of $$$$$), why would they not do it?
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Oh no, professionals doing their job are more worried about fullfilling their contract than doing what is fun. Truly sucks to be an adult.
Dunno mate... does it make any difference at all to your game if others are playing their way, if it does, what are YOU doing here?
I mean, yes? Unless we're using some kind of specialized definitions for all these words?
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Contracts don't stipulate gameplay mechanics. Don't equate building boring and uninspired games with being an adult, that's truly stupid.
Every poll I've seen which pits ship interiors vs full atmo planets has the latter winning easily.
I would like to believe that, although I am not entirely sure. It could be my own bias. In any case, that makes two of us
There were two youtube polls a while back, with thousands of responses, and a recent 'which you would you prefer - interiors or atmo planets' thread on Steam which got a bunch of responses with one or two for interiors and all the rest for atmo planets.
Full atmo planets.
Here's the steam thread: https://steamcommunity.com/app/359320/discussions/0/3200365942108202236/
Yes a poll with only one option is a very common tactic for getting the answers you want, not the answers you need, that's why professional pollsters normalise for bias in questions and target audience. Who would have thought polling could be so complicated!
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One youtuber ran a poll on frame rates in Odyssey after the release. The options went something like
60 fps - barely playable
50 fps and above - totally unplayable
40 fps and up - refunded the game
(etc)
I unsubbed on the spot.
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Sheesh - how can the forum still be having this conversation.
Parallel and Phased deployment
No Developer (in their right mind) will actively acknowledge any other products (In our case the "other" milestones), that they have in development and will outright deny/downplay rumors and speculations about other products/milestones (Bruce might have overplayed his part in the live streams there).
This isn't indicative of "frontier" but this goes for "valve", "epic", and all the rest of them.
The goal is to keep people focused on the current schedule of releases which they have a concrete roadmap for which is the next year(s) work schedule for group of developers.
AND
Until the current run of planned content is about to run dry
AND
the OTHER TEAM is actually ready to push out the next big section.
WE will not hear ANYTHING about that other product, be it another Jurrasic park or Space-legs.
As noted, the basic stable frameworks are established and then added to over the course of that products life-span.
All of these are worked upon in parallel, privately for just development purposes and externally on the live servers.
We are still seeing content for the original base game, Horizons and Beyond being deployed alongside Odyssey content.
Just because Fleet carriers were "launched" and we might assume "bare-bones" did not mean that we saw "all of it's content", just a fraction of what that team had planned for it. Just delivering the players the initial framework is one step of the many planned steps for that product.
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Odyssey is still trying to debug and fix the LOD & Occlusion issues, which is frighteningly taking way too much time than of us (and fdev) anticipated.
and you want to nag about ship interiors?????
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Adding Ship interiors Has it's own set of challenges.
Leaving the ships, ship exteriors, docking to other ships, eva's, things to do on a ship that's working well, things to do on a ship when things don't go well. How much micromanagement is required for "fun" but not to become "obstructive" to the other gameplay elements such as straightforward space-ship stuff that has been established for 5 years?
What about how boarding even works or salvaging, the "beat to beat" moments, the sound effects, the music, the mechanics, the gameplay loops.
What happens when a players ship is boarded and then they exit the game(?) answer: the ships remain in the other players' instance - and will discourage combat logging.)
Rendering - the One Positive note about greenlighting and putting a fire up the backside of Ship-legs.
(but not tell "us" about it, as it will before "internal use only", as there will be no other "positive feedback" as there is no other content to deliver.
Rendering "Ship legs" will need to focus on the seamless transition between the "products" and the removal of the "fade to black" (for the code anyway).
So it requires going over with a fine-toothed comb of what assets and "rules-sets" for required for rendering on our screen and the pathfinding for AI, when to buffer-load in assets ahead of time, (how do you anticipate their need), and when to unpack and when to unload them.
For the players, we will get a "half-life alyx" teleport from cockpit to Vehicle or Surface, with which "we the player" will still sea a fade to black.
Under the hood and unbeknownst to the player, the game will literally walk the player A-to-B, the fade to black will consistently be the same time, every time.
No hangings ups or crashes, and will be "synced" for future releases of the game.
Parallel and Phased deployment
Sourced from the wiki which was sourced from a newsletter.
0 = Base Game
1 = Horizons
2 = ??????
3 = Odyssey
4 = ?????
5 = Beyond
Odyssey is straight-up "Combat and other interactions with other players and AI's in the internal areas of Starports."
There are no "plans" for "Milestone 3", which has a whole slew of its own content to be phased into the game,
to accomplish "Milestone 2" because that has its own team and release window which is "x" amount of year(s) away.
0 = Base Game
1 = Horizons
2 = ??????
3 = Odyssey
4 = ?????
5 = Beyond
Odyssey is straight-up "Combat and other interactions with other players and AI's in the internal areas of Starports."
There are no "plans" for "Milestone 3", which has a whole slew of its own content to be phased into the game,
to accomplish "Milestone 2" because that has its own team and release window which is "x" amount of year(s) away.
No Developer (in their right mind) will actively acknowledge any other products (In our case the "other" milestones), that they have in development and will outright deny/downplay rumors and speculations about other products/milestones (Bruce might have overplayed his part in the live streams there).
This isn't indicative of "frontier" but this goes for "valve", "epic", and all the rest of them.
The goal is to keep people focused on the current schedule of releases which they have a concrete roadmap for which is the next year(s) work schedule for group of developers.
AND
Until the current run of planned content is about to run dry
AND
the OTHER TEAM is actually ready to push out the next big section.
WE will not hear ANYTHING about that other product, be it another Jurrasic park or Space-legs.
As noted, the basic stable frameworks are established and then added to over the course of that products life-span.
All of these are worked upon in parallel, privately for just development purposes and externally on the live servers.
We are still seeing content for the original base game, Horizons and Beyond being deployed alongside Odyssey content.
Just because Fleet carriers were "launched" and we might assume "bare-bones" did not mean that we saw "all of it's content", just a fraction of what that team had planned for it. Just delivering the players the initial framework is one step of the many planned steps for that product.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Odyssey is still trying to debug and fix the LOD & Occlusion issues, which is frighteningly taking way too much time than of us (and fdev) anticipated.
and you want to nag about ship interiors?????
------------------------------------
Adding Ship interiors Has it's own set of challenges.
Leaving the ships, ship exteriors, docking to other ships, eva's, things to do on a ship that's working well, things to do on a ship when things don't go well. How much micromanagement is required for "fun" but not to become "obstructive" to the other gameplay elements such as straightforward space-ship stuff that has been established for 5 years?
What about how boarding even works or salvaging, the "beat to beat" moments, the sound effects, the music, the mechanics, the gameplay loops.
What happens when a players ship is boarded and then they exit the game(?) answer: the ships remain in the other players' instance - and will discourage combat logging.)
Rendering - the One Positive note about greenlighting and putting a fire up the backside of Ship-legs.
(but not tell "us" about it, as it will before "internal use only", as there will be no other "positive feedback" as there is no other content to deliver.
Rendering "Ship legs" will need to focus on the seamless transition between the "products" and the removal of the "fade to black" (for the code anyway).
So it requires going over with a fine-toothed comb of what assets and "rules-sets" for required for rendering on our screen and the pathfinding for AI, when to buffer-load in assets ahead of time, (how do you anticipate their need), and when to unpack and when to unload them.
For the players, we will get a "half-life alyx" teleport from cockpit to Vehicle or Surface, with which "we the player" will still sea a fade to black.
Under the hood and unbeknownst to the player, the game will literally walk the player A-to-B, the fade to black will consistently be the same time, every time.
No hangings ups or crashes, and will be "synced" for future releases of the game.
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It is not the drops themselves that make the rain louder. It's the number of drops
Afterwards, it's true that the silent majority will always be more numerous. But it's a bit like a poll, you don't need to question the whole population to get an idea of what they think
And yes, the ship interior will be one of the biggest investments FDev will have to make, if not the biggest. It's not just about modelling the modules. This will force FDev to remove or rethink a lot of tricks and simplifications throughout the game environment and gameplay. There are many technical and gameplay differences between a game/simulation where you drive a vehicle and where you embody a vehicle and how the environement can influence the gameplay independently of the player. It's truly a core feature that define the technical and gameplay foundation. And the more FDev will delaye this feature and instead enriches its environments and gameplays, the higher the investment will be.
Yes. So it doesn't change ship interior.I mean, yes? Unless we're using some kind of specialized definitions for all these words?
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsGHaD3XyYM
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Me personally would prefer more stuff 'out there' in that massive galaxy than in my ship.
More unique planets maybe with caves with grade 5 mats, systems, stations, artefacts, remote groups or factions who want to return to the bubble or just want everyone else to stay away, even new races.
I remember in the original game sometimes you would dock at a station and there was going to be a supernova so you were asked if you can help evacuate the population.
Just random stuff every so often, a 1 in a 100 or 1000 thing.
More unique planets maybe with caves with grade 5 mats, systems, stations, artefacts, remote groups or factions who want to return to the bubble or just want everyone else to stay away, even new races.
I remember in the original game sometimes you would dock at a station and there was going to be a supernova so you were asked if you can help evacuate the population.
Just random stuff every so often, a 1 in a 100 or 1000 thing.
It literally does change ship interior. Maybe check the link again:
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Meanwhile I would prefer to have no ship interiors. In the past FD implemented different half baked features and then abandoned them more or less unfinished or barebone. Most prominent are CQC and Powerplay and I don't want ship interiors to end up the same way
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