Why is this game so unneccesarily inconvenient?
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What does Star Citizen have to do with anything?
Is your argument that the game is better served by having everyone guessing if / when various aspects of the original core game play is going to be given a serious refactoring? Because that's what we have now and it sucks. It pollutes the forum as it rightly should.
I dont think you need to base any opinions on what other games are doing or not doing. There's plenty of evidence and history to base everything you want on just this game. It's fairly obvious what has been working and not working. We have over 2 years of history to work with.
I think u need to simply visit this forum area: Player Tools and API Development
Nearly all the findings you have issue with have solutions here. Sure they are not ingame, but at least they are covered, and in most cases much better than if rendered ingame!
Why not just sit back and let everything be automatic, everything needs no attention and no task takes more than 30 seconds?
Game frustrating - Everything takes too long? - Believe you must grind everything to some imaginary Pokemon end-game?
Go away. Stop playing and go play Overwatch. This game is obviously NOT for you.
Stop trying to turn our game into some mindless hand holder babysitter that wipes your face after your toss your cereal from the high chair.
E: D too frustrating? Go play something easy.
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You can't compare a functional space sim game to the biggest farce since Duke Nuke 'Em. SC isn't playable.
Game frustrating - Everything takes too long? - Believe you must grind everything to some imaginary Pokemon end-game?
Go away. Stop playing and go play Overwatch. This game is obviously NOT for you.
Stop trying to turn our game into some mindless hand holder babysitter that wipes your face after your toss your cereal from the high chair.
E: D too frustrating? Go play something easy.
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You can't compare a functional space sim game to the biggest farce since Duke Nuke 'Em. SC isn't playable.
This is going to be problematic, seeing how it's just a statement. An accompanying argument would be a good start. Since that is lacking refuting it would be simple: "No it doesn't". The statement in itself has some issues.
The game cannot contrive, since it is ruled by code. I believe the game executes the code perfectly. So, I guess you meant the developers.
Second, you now have to find evidence that the developers make the game as inconvenient as possible. Now even with a low esteem of the developers I think we should give them credit for being more creative than that, and they could have made the game way more inconvenient than it is now.
Third, since you are guessing ... wait, I'll start again. Since you are GUESSING the game's (read: developer's) intentions, I am at a loss how you can call that objective and factually true, without any way of checking that.
Bottomline is, before I can start to refute THAT STATEMENT, I'm going to need a little more SUPPORT for THAT STATEMENT.
Helpful would be: when accusing people of using a strawman (which granted, you had a point) it may not be the best strategy to follow that up with the hyperbole "as inconvenient as possible". When claiming factual correctness about developer's intentions, you're going to need quite strong evidence to support that. I'd like to see that.
Good luck!
Spicy rant there OP. I agree with some of it, not with so much emotion though. Some of it is inconvenience but it also sounds like some of it is a case of the game just not being for you. There is room for improvement on many things, but I think that there are just parts of the game that will remain core and you probably won't ever like it.
Sure, it would be nice, but for ships and modules, I made Jameson station my home address. They got almost all of it and at all times, and at 10% rebate. So why bother go anywhere else?
This is going to be problematic, seeing how it's just a statement. An accompanying argument would be a good start. Since that is lacking refuting it would be simple: "No it doesn't". The statement in itself has some issues.
The game cannot contrive, since it is ruled by code. I believe the game executes the code perfectly. So, I guess you meant the developers.
Second, you now have to find evidence that the developers make the game as inconvenient as possible. Now even with a low esteem of the developers I think we should give them credit for being more creative than that, and they could have made the game way more inconvenient than it is now.
Third, since you are guessing ... wait, I'll start again. Since you are GUESSING the game's (read: developer's) intentions, I am at a loss how you can call that objective and factually true, without any way of checking that.
Bottomline is, before I can start to refute THAT STATEMENT, I'm going to need a little more SUPPORT for THAT STATEMENT.
Helpful would be: when accusing people of using a strawman (which granted, you had a point) it may not be the best strategy to follow that up with the hyperbole "as inconvenient as possible". When claiming factual correctness about developer's intentions, you're going to need quite strong evidence to support that. I'd like to see that.
Good luck!
Evidence that the developers have purposely made the game stupid: (and by stupid, i mean pointless timesinks as place holders for meaningful barriers of activity)
Powerplay fast-tracking. There is absolutely no difference between the cost nor the effect of me fast tracking 10 units a time, or 50 units at a time. The various amounts being rewards for your ranking level. This creates a time barrier that makes the player repeatedly click menus over and over to fill their cargo hold. There's no reason for it other than being a time barrier because they dont have a good idea of another way to limit player fast tracking to give different levels varying benefits.
jump distance. This is and has been simply a time suck barrier. There's no gameplay (yet) involved with jumping and no other limitation from the player's point of view other than repeatedly doing the same action over and over. Everything about travel is so common that fueling / ship strength / loadout doesn't factor into traveling outside of how many jumps it takes (aside from when you go far out so that stars are too far to jump to from any path). We know this is being used as nothing more than a time barrier because the devs have repeatedly increased the range since release despite the in game lore simply to placate the players ....rather than incorporate gameplay and real barriers to travel.
Everything is a guess at the developer's intentions because they dont communicate anything (anymore). So it's perfectly valid to base your statements on the evidence and assign the simplest reason to their intentions. But to me, their intentions are irrelevant. We dont play their intentions. We play what they've given us and what they've given us is empty time barriers and incomplete mechanics and then continue to build off of that. So maybe instead of focusing on the argument that we do or dont know the developer's intentions, we can easily discuss and see what the product of whatever those intentions are and know that they're bad.
Non sequitur.
Also, they didn't compare it to SC. Read what they were responding to.
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Another way, if someone i limited on buttons to bind for whatever reason, is to simply target something local then untarget it. Once you get out of the initial low level mass lock (around 2k meters up, IIRC) your nav system will automagically set up the next jump as the current target. Works great for me and I have more buttons and switches on my X55 than I really need.
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VR, Stellar Forge- guess we have it pretty good.
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Non sequitur, false dichotomy, and I felt the SC comment was a red herring.
Which is why I find it funny that we used to have interesting SC mechanics that got nerfed for being to hard for many and now people are demanding interesting SC mechanics. It's what you get when you apease the mob.
All of that could be solved by giving people an autopilot function so they could at least read GalNet or look up trade routes or whatever during long supercruise journeys.
I'm not dictating anything. It's just an observation: Why would you spend time playing a game that you don't enjoy? It's clear that the developers won't be ditching supercruise, adding fast-travel gates, or an auto-pilot; they've said so publically. This game is a time-sink and I don't see that changing anytime soon.