Fair point, so maybe he does want a HUD. But that still makes the HUD the problem not the external view itself, in that sense I suppose we've gotten off topic by arguing about the very concept of an external camera. Let's just call it Frontier style 3rd person and Freelancer style 3rd person for clarity. I favour the former, though I don't honestly care if anyone got the latter I just wouldn't play that way myself.
Why no 3rd person?
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Fair point, so maybe he does want a HUD. But that still makes the HUD the problem not the external view itself, in that sense I suppose we've gotten off topic by arguing about the very concept of an external camera. Let's just call it Frontier style 3rd person and Freelancer style 3rd person for clarity. I favour the former, though I don't honestly care if anyone got the latter I just wouldn't play that way myself.
Well if we are talking about "playable" 3p view with hud an such - oh hell no! \o/ I dont know how "easier" it would be but it would feel just super out of place in this game.
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lol. out of 6 responses you got at this point, only 1 could be (at least remotely) considered hostile ("Because third person view in Elite would be stupid.").
looks like you nailed your nickname!
please don't consider this hostile. it isn't. but please stop insulting the intelligence of your potential readers.
*sigh*
I was refering to the entire forum , not just this thread. Based on my short time here, I would say 98% of the users are geniunely trying to be helpful, or at least neutral. Sadly, it's the 2% that stick out. They act elite, believe everything they say is right, typically won't engage in a debate w/o a demeaning overtone, and go out of their way to put someone down. That last part is where your post falls in. Not only did you misread what I wrote. You went completely off-topic trying to belittle me.
Anyway... back OT, I am shocked that this thread has received so much attention! I hope this will encourage the FDev wing to reconsider 3pv...
I wanted to chime in on the debate that's on this page...
I did make this post way back on page 10...
I hope that helps you better understand my stance. Bottom line, I want to see my awesome ship, in it's entirety, while I'm flying around. I'm all for a limited/zero heads up display, if it means I can do that.
I did make this post way back on page 10...
I hope that helps you better understand my stance. Bottom line, I want to see my awesome ship, in it's entirety, while I'm flying around. I'm all for a limited/zero heads up display, if it means I can do that.
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maybe, but you said it in this thread after just one 'not so friendly', and not commenting anything on several informative responses. i see that more as a miscomunication on your part
belitteling what seemed an overreaction, not you. i don't even know you, and i don't belittle people in general
and the pun with the nickname ... couldn't resist!
as you may already know (no, i didn't read the 30 pages), i don't think you will ever see the classic arcade style external view in elite. the external cam is just for sightseeing, was introduced only after popular demand (it was actually called 'debug cam' back then) and disables navigation on purpose.
people is bored at work, and you just pulled a viral. congratulations!
look at it this way: could as well be a troll. a quick search would have told you that this is a recurrent topic, and people just don't want this game to go the arcade route, neither do the developers. there's enough games like that around.
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no, you are a very much a ship
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The pilot's head moves about inside the ship as the ship changes direction and turns to focus on different HUD elements - then the pilot can transfer to the SRV.
.... plus the fact that we'll be able to leave the pilot's chair in a later Season.
Well that's because you are a very small ship inside of a bigger ship. Or a very small ship inside of a SRV. It's obvious?!
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And what would it prove it you provided that list?
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Because you don't have an argument. I'm not trying to convince FD lol, I'm just taking all the bad arguments here and showing them for what they are - a complete waste of time. As usual, the same bad arguments are then thrown back.
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The advantages of which far far outweigh the negatives.
But; no one will EVER force you to use a 3rd person view! [squeeeee]
I bet you don't even know what "their vision" is
What are you suggesting here?
In most of these threads it's always been about view. I would argue further that whether you have a hud or not, it's not easier. I can kick ass in easy mode War Thunder from the cockpit, it provides not much if any advantage if you know how to fly and you definitely don't get a wider field of view, the camera is just further back. Regardless of the OP, I think all my posts in this thread have been pretty consistent with a view only - I'd never fly ED out of the pit and I believe the "advantage" people think they have is entirely made up in their heads though there is one caveat - Track IR.
Do people want to play a game, or do they want to immerse themselves into it.
Which, of course, it is not.
FDev can implement "a lot" of 3rd person flying, without it ending up being an advantage in battle. [yesnod]
Couldn't rep you again, but absolutely wood if I could!
This, as far as I'm concerned blows everything out the water. If you're selling paintjob for the price they are or those stupid spoilers for eight bloody quid, then you're going to damn well add a camera so you can see what you paid for. This is almost illegal behaviour and also disgusting on FD's part but they just want your money - they're not bothered about providing anything decent about their game which is why each and every update is half a job. PP - half a job. Wing - half a job. Paint job - half a job. Engineers - half a job. CQC - half a job.
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