Why weapons doesn't have a STUN option??
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This is my stun attack
This has come up before; my solution then was some sort of Guardian (handwaviums) "phase shift weapon" which would immobilise its target for several minutes but also move them partly out of phase with our reality and so render them immune to further damage, thus solving the PEGI problem.
Edit: and if it made them invisible it would also solve the "bodies littering the place" problem.
Edit: and if it made them invisible it would also solve the "bodies littering the place" problem.
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Speaking about PEGI rating, I wonder this is why they never have more than 6 dead bodies around. Can't be a database limit. Seems more like and arbitrary limit. Something about more than six corpses is a gruesome scene and needs PEGI 18. Annoys me when I have a hard fight against 10+ high difficulty scavengers and can only scan six of them.
I add my vote to having ranged stun options. Perhaps the shield would have to be dropped before it is effective.
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Would love to know how many kids are playing Elite - surely most would get bored after the first 10 minutes and go back to Fortnite/FIFA/Destiny/Star Wars/GTA?
Presumably the biggest chunk of the player base is grown ups (physically at least) so why gimp artistic licence aiming for low PEGI ratings?
Presumably the biggest chunk of the player base is grown ups (physically at least) so why gimp artistic licence aiming for low PEGI ratings?
Do we have an actual source for someone official stating that's why no stun guns, or just forum posts from users?
It honestly just sounds like some random player said it credibly enough and we've all just take it as gospel.
The original Thief games had this kind of feature, and when re-rated more recently in the PEGI system, they were rated 16. You could club someone unconscious and drag them into water so they drowned, or set them on fire.
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Because it's rated Pegi 16, and people are saying if you could stun people then it would be rated Pegi 18. But I've yet to see a credible source for this, unless it was stated on a livestream or something I missed.
I know, it was rhetorical
The reason we don't have stun is because FDev didn't consider it worth adding or just didn't consider it (I'm thinking the former).
I do disagree with that, I think stun and non lethal options and the ability to get away with murder if undetected could add a lot to the game.
I just don't think pegi rating discussion helps that any more than people complaining that anarchy systems don't work how they think they work.
Morality is an interesting argument with the game of Elite Dangerous. Not because it’s supposedly ‘there’s no rules’; because there obviously are. But generally how the game has evolved from being in a place where grind, a restrictive mechanism implemented to slow a player’s progression, has changed to - grind, a series of walls to vault to obtain that maxed out tank gun.
Case in point.
You locate a mission to transport some illicit goods from A to B for X credits. No patrols, no danger of being stopped at a station. Maybe if your slow enough you might get scanned and get a fine…
Thing is these are ‘illicit goods’; eg some organised crime gang is using you as a mule, likely to launder credits, because that’s why illicit goods exist.
So in reality you’re making some scumbag very rich, whilst hurting hundreds if not thousands of people and committing major tax evasion ( goes on all the time in the RW).
Yet in game this is never spelt out (missed opportunity). The minimum that could go wrong is a fine.
For me I role play, so if took these on, I would jettison said cargo… but yet still said OCG don’t make a big deal of it (again missed opportunity)… in fact I could go back and keep doing this until my reputation is eroded.
The choice to undertake violence or illegal missions are just that. A choice. It is a frontier society, so yes it does make sense certain types seek mercenaries. But that doesn’t mean you have to be one.
The real question ought to be - what alternatives are there, what peaceful missions are out there (except hauling biofuel)?
Answer not many. Because this is unfortunately no longer a space sim, but now a FPS focused on violence.
Is this intentional, or is this reactive to players needs?
Case in point.
You locate a mission to transport some illicit goods from A to B for X credits. No patrols, no danger of being stopped at a station. Maybe if your slow enough you might get scanned and get a fine…
Thing is these are ‘illicit goods’; eg some organised crime gang is using you as a mule, likely to launder credits, because that’s why illicit goods exist.
So in reality you’re making some scumbag very rich, whilst hurting hundreds if not thousands of people and committing major tax evasion ( goes on all the time in the RW).
Yet in game this is never spelt out (missed opportunity). The minimum that could go wrong is a fine.
For me I role play, so if took these on, I would jettison said cargo… but yet still said OCG don’t make a big deal of it (again missed opportunity)… in fact I could go back and keep doing this until my reputation is eroded.
The choice to undertake violence or illegal missions are just that. A choice. It is a frontier society, so yes it does make sense certain types seek mercenaries. But that doesn’t mean you have to be one.
The real question ought to be - what alternatives are there, what peaceful missions are out there (except hauling biofuel)?
Answer not many. Because this is unfortunately no longer a space sim, but now a FPS focused on violence.
Is this intentional, or is this reactive to players needs?
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How? By making that sub-light-speed bullet slower? Made of popcorn rice? Beanbag ammo? Laser dazzle?
People pulling a lot crap out of their rearend, as some way to rationalise what is simply garbage and lazily thrown together design. There a lots of games where you can harm defenceless bots and or other players. Executing downed players in PEGI 16 apex legends. Executing handcuffed civilians in Arma 3 PEGI 16, the list goes on. The stupidity of PEGI labels is something else, but so is this forums "bad language" filter, but the bad design is down to not coherently planning out game mechanics. A shooter that has a stealth component but does not have less than lethal options, is just plain dumb.
Remember, if you are on a moon with a solo npc who doesn't see you, and you kill them, somehow the universe knows, and you get a crime modifier....................... That was a long day in the office to think through that one.
Remember, if you are on a moon with a solo npc who doesn't see you, and you kill them, somehow the universe knows, and you get a crime modifier....................... That was a long day in the office to think through that one.
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Implementation of using Energylink could be consider as a option to make into a stun based instead of kill.
High tech stun weapons like this probably require an engineer that wants 250 Waste Disposal Logs to unlock:
