Why you probably can't kill peeps/guests/visitors anymore

zuhcvffq

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Something that I just realized as to why you can't kill peeps/guests/visitors anymore in new theme park simulator games. I thought i'd share.

Back in the days of rct1 and rct2 every peep/guest/visitor was just a few pixels. There were no genders or ages. They all looked the same and walked the same, made the same sounds. Then after rct3 and now with rctw and most importantly: Planet Coaster, all guests/peeps/visitors have so much personality. They have different genders and most importantly: different ages and heigts. Since they start to look very realistic and have personalities and show emotion, it can probably never be ok anymore for any game if they could be easily 'killed'. Because the game would be rated 18+ if certain people who make it a habbit to complain about stuff would whine about it on twitter and what not.

But it kinda makes me wonder too why a game like The Sims DOES allow it. If it is not the goal in the sims to do so but simply a possibility, why isn't it allowed in theme park sims then? In the Sims you aren't meant to kill your sims (no matter what their age) but you still can. And this is fine. But in rct or in planet coaster you arent meant to kill your peeps/guests/visitors either, but i think it should still be possible that they'd 'die' and be gone from your park and your park would get bad ratings if they were to be on a ride that crashed. But straight up throwing them in a lake maybe isn't acceptable anymore these days (For some people that is, i personally dont mind because its a videogame and it can be fun)

So yeah I think this could be an interesting discussion.
 
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stuk71

stuk71
I personally didn't see the attraction with drowning peeps... And you are right, in RCT 1 & 2 the peeps were pretty faceless, more like tiny ants roaming around.

One thing I did like was when a coaster crashed in RCT 1, 'BOOM' and a pop-up window showing the explosion, totally realistic of course... [tongue] It would freak me out, and I would feel guilty... Then, what made it worse, the little peeps would go around saying "I'm not riding 'Devils Claw' it's not safe"... Whaaaaat? But that's my money maker!!

Fun times [haha]

edit: putting forum members that you find lurking around your park into a prebuilt prison might be fun.. [insert Mr Burns "excellent"]
 
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zuhcvffq

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stuk71 said:
I personally didn't see the attraction with drowning peeps... And you are right, in RCT 1 & 2 the peeps were pretty faceless, more like tiny ants roaming around.

One thing I did like was when a coaster crashed in RCT 1, 'BOOM' and a pop-up window showing the explosion, totally realistic of course... [tongue] It would freak me out, and I would feel guilty... Then, what made it worse, the little peeps would go around saying "I'm not riding 'Devils Claw' it's not safe"... Whaaaaat? But that's my money maker!!

Fun times [haha]

edit: putting forum members that you find lurking around your park into a prebuilt prison might be fun.. [insert Mr Burns "excellent"]
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its not an attraction but it can be fun.

"Oh you think my bathroom price is too high? How about this!"

thats part of the fun of a game in my opinion :p
 

Demonoid74

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I used to love to trap people in the queue for my overexciting roller coaster...they would eventually HAVE to ride it...then promptly exit the ride and die of a heart attack! lol...but yeah , I do not see them doing that anymore because the people are not so faceless...It was also fun to launch people out of a LIM coaster to their deaths as well...but , that will probably be more like Thrillville , where they all grow little parachutes and float to safety...I could imagine the youtube videos that would be all over the place if not...
 

BoozleBox

BoozleBox
It's fine, all they need to do instead is make them act like little skittles, so we can do a little coaster bowling every now and then =P

Also I don't think they should remove the penalty for dangerous rides altogether, as stuk71 said, it adds to the realism of the game when you feel guilty in putting your guests in danger. Maybe they should just get seriously injured and have to be carted off by a medic instead of full on dying.

Although I don't think a pop up saying 13 guest died on you roller coaster that just smashed into a wall is considered 18+. Unless they animate all there limbs flying off and blood splatter effects and well. That might be straying into the more mature region.
 

zuhcvffq

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BoozleBox said:
It's fine, all they need to do instead is make them act like little skittles, so we can do a little coaster bowling every now and then =P

Also I don't think they should remove the penalty for dangerous rides altogether, as stuk71 said, it adds to the realism of the game when you feel guilty in putting your guests in danger. Maybe they should just get seriously injured and have to be carted off by a medic instead of full on dying.

Although I don't think a pop up saying 13 guest died on you roller coaster that just smashed into a wall is considered 18+. Unless they animate all there limbs flying off and blood splatter effects and well. That might be straying into the more mature region.
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well yeah, and if the sims can animate kids standing on fire and dying i dont see why a coaster theme park game would be somehow worse than that

is there any reason why they did suddenly stop with it? its not like rct1 and rct2 was graphic in any way. They were just deleted aka dead.

Any confirmation if planet coaster has guests that can die/be deleted if they are on a coaster that crashes?
 

Vampiro

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Vampiro
when you think about it its a littlebit disturbing...

We ask for realism, and yet we ask for the possibility to kill or drown people [where is it]
 

Angelis1

Angelis1
Vampiro said:
when you think about it its a littlebit disturbing...

We ask for realism, and yet we ask for the possibility to kill or drown people [where is it]
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Not everyone ask about absolute "realism" you know [rolleyes]

Anyway, about this question, I think that it's just like GTA. Sometimes you follow the story, and sometimes you just want to have fun by blowing up things, drive like a madman, and kill innocent people. It's the same here, sometimes you want to build a beautiful park, or complete the mission objectives, but sometimes you just want to have fun, by considering guests like ants, and conduct sadistic scientific experiments on them.

I dont know the english word, but it's french, it's an "éxutoire" (outlet ? anti stress ?)
 

Vampiro

Volunteer Moderator
Vampiro
Angelis said:
Not everyone ask about absolute "realism" you know [rolleyes]

Anyway, about this question, I think that it's just like GTA. Sometimes you follow the story, and sometimes you just want to have fun by blowing up things, drive like a madman, and kill innocent people. It's the same here, sometimes you want to build a beautiful park, or complete the mission objectives, but sometimes you just want to have fun, by considering guests like ants, and conduct sadistic scientific experiments on them.

I dont know the english word, but it's french, it's an "éxutoire" (outlet ? anti stress ?)
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Hehe, i know, i was more or less joking ;)

Personall i was never into killing peeps in RCT but i can understand people who were [big grin]
I think relief is the word you are looking for? (altough englisch isn't my native language as well (Im from the Netherlands), so someone correct me if im wrong)
 

Angelis1

Angelis1
Vampiro said:
I think relief is the word you are looking for? (altough englisch isn't my native language as well (Im from the Netherlands), so someone correct me if im wrong)
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Hmmm ... or "escapism" maybe ? I dont know ... This word is so difficult to translate.
 

Helena

Helena
Exactly, the more "realistic" the people in game looks like the less like you are going to be able to kill them manually.

Plus it was different time back in time too generally.

But I do still want to see people get killed in fatal accident, very rare but like real life it happens. But of course it is all up to Frontier how to do this thing and I have full respect for them to do their choice.
 

Angelis1

Angelis1
Yeah, let's say "fun" ! [big grin]

No need to have something "gore" (with blood, etc...) but I think they should let us make some "social experiments" with this crowd [tongue]
 

MrNoLife

MrNoLife
Kill Peeps because they couldnt find the exit. Make little pool of water and let them drown in front of the exit. That was the most funniest thing I did always![haha]
 

Angelis1

Angelis1
And prison, dont forget the prison [big grin][big grin][big grin]

"Ah ? Really ? You dont like the price of the toilet ? GO TO JAILLLLLLL"

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