Will Elite Dangerous Launch on Steam?

Would you mind seeing this game on steam?

  • Yes Braben should email Gaben

    Votes: 29 46.8%

  • No

    Votes: 33 53.2%
  • Total voters
    62
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Zefar

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If it wasn't for TotalBiscuit I would never have heard of this game.

Mainly because I tend to stay away from gaming news sites all together as they just love to hype bad stuff.
 

lexandro

lexandro
Zefar said:
If it wasn't for TotalBiscuit I would never have heard of this game.

Mainly because I tend to stay away from gaming news sites all together as they just love to hype bad stuff.
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I take everything anyone ever says about every game with a massive bucket of salt. I ignore gaming press completely because its all bought and paid for and printed to keep the money flowing. That is why in almost all cases I do not buy or put money in to a game until such time as I either see a video of, or get to experience the gameplay. Not flashy intro vids or those "not indicative of gameplay" promo vids publishers throw around. Proper player made gameplay videos.
 

Flappers

Flappers
One thing that annoys me on the internet, is the blind loyalty towards Valve, and how they are basically treated as Gods.

It frustrates me to no end... they want to squeeze more money out of the consumer, more so than any other company.
The amount of greenlight rubbish (to avoid the swear filter) that gets placed on the store with absolutely ZERO, NONE, ZILTCH, NADA quality assurance is absolutely abysmal for a company with the riches that Valve has.

No QA, not a single turd given about the consumer, or the products they consume off their store.

Oh whoop-de-doo, they are behind TF2 and DOTA2, it still doesn't excuse how absolutely ignorant they are towards the consumers of their store.

I really hope for the sake of FDEVS dignity that they stay away from Steam. With a bit of marketing, it can be done right, but first of all, no company (Valve) should have so much power over an open platform like the PC and second, those that say "I won't buy it unless it's on Steam" are the sheep ruining the PC platform. They need to head on over to consoles, where the market is strictly controlled by their publisher overlords.

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Yeah, I really don't like Steam lol. And what's worse are the hypocrites complaining about DRM (causing a nuisence on the forums here, when offline mode was pulled, blaming DRM) but refuse to buy any game that's not on Steam.
Steam is DRM. And DRM is bad. Regardless of who runs it.

Not to mention how unreliable the platform is.... okay I'll stop lol :D

Oh the support? You think FDEV's support is bad?... ah, there I go again lol

Have to leave this here

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lexandro

lexandro
Flappers said:
One thing that annoys me on the internet, is the blind loyalty towards Valve, and how they are basically Gods.

It frustrates me to no end... they want to squeeze more money out of the consumer, more so than any other company.
The amount of greenlight rubbish (to avoid the swear filter) that gets placed on the store with absolutely ZERO, NONE, ZILTCH, NADA quality assurance is absolutely abysmal for a company with the riches that Valve has.

No QA, not a single turd given about the consumer, or the products they consume off their store.

Oh whoop-de-doo, they are behind TF2 and DOTA2, it still doesn't excuse how absolutely ignorant they are towards the consumers of their store.

I really hope for the sake of FDEVS dignity that they stay away from Steam. With a bit of marketing, it can be done right, but first of all, no company (Valve) should have so much power over an open platform like the PC and second, those that say "I won't buy it unless it's on Steam" are the sheep ruining the PC platform. They need to head on over to consoles, where the market is strictly controlled by their publisher overlords.

/rant

Yeah, I really don't like Steam lol. And what's worse are the hypocrites complaining about DRM (causing a nuisence on the forums here, when offline mode was pulled, blaming DRM) but refuse to buy any game that's not on Steam.
Steam is DRM. And DRM is bad. Regardless of who runs it.

Not to mention how unreliable the platform is.... okay I'll stop lol :D

Oh the support? You think FDEV's support is bad?... ah, there I go again lol
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Ken says "Shoryureppa".

So have some rep.
 
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Geers

Geers
Flappers said:
One thing that annoys me on the internet, is the blind loyalty towards Valve, and how they are basically treated as Gods.

It frustrates me to no end... they want to squeeze more money out of the consumer, more so than any other company.
The amount of greenlight rubbish (to avoid the swear filter) that gets placed on the store with absolutely ZERO, NONE, ZILTCH, NADA quality assurance is absolutely abysmal for a company with the riches that Valve has.

No QA, not a single turd given about the consumer, or the products they consume off their store.

Oh whoop-de-doo, they are behind TF2 and DOTA2, it still doesn't excuse how absolutely ignorant they are towards the consumers of their store.

I really hope for the sake of FDEVS dignity that they stay away from Steam. With a bit of marketing, it can be done right, but first of all, no company (Valve) should have so much power over an open platform like the PC and second, those that say "I won't buy it unless it's on Steam" are the sheep ruining the PC platform. They need to head on over to consoles, where the market is strictly controlled by their publisher overlords.

/rant

Yeah, I really don't like Steam lol. And what's worse are the hypocrites complaining about DRM (causing a nuisence on the forums here, when offline mode was pulled, blaming DRM) but refuse to buy any game that's not on Steam.
Steam is DRM. And DRM is bad. Regardless of who runs it.

Not to mention how unreliable the platform is.... okay I'll stop lol :D

Oh the support? You think FDEV's support is bad?... ah, there I go again lol

Have to leave this here

sheeple.jpg
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Steam might be DRM but at least it isn't obtrusive. You don't need a constant internet connection or anything like that. Personally I've never had a single issue with Steam, but of course that doesn't mean you haven't. Steam isn't perfect, but it has good prices, stat tracking, a friend system, organizes all your games and patches them automatically.

Just remember blind hatred/dismissal is just as bad as blind worship.

Most people don't actually care about DRM. It's only when said DRM gets in the way that it's an issue.
 
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Bozeman42

B
YeOldeMiller said:
Yeah, only those boxed copies are mostly there for older conservative gamers who mistrust digital versions because they're not 'tangible' enough for them. Also, those going to gift the game may prefer a physical copy; either way I don't think those two groups make up a large part of sales. Steam version, however, would create direct competition for FD's own store over the main source of their income.
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Direct competition for their store, yes, but they would tap into a MASSIVE audience. I think at some point (maybe not right now or soon) the increased exposure and total income that would be produced on Steam would outweigh the reduction in profit margin per unit.

I think it would be reasonable for them to keep it in house now but add to steam down the road.
 

Arran

A
nats said:
Not really - that is exactly the same system that most commercial software use for registration and it is the easiest to crack using a Keygen utility. This is how loads of people have full copies of MS Office, Photoshop, 3dsMax, Adobe Creative Suite etc on their computers at home.
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Yeah, and because steam is so save and uncrackable, when you look at torrents 99% of all pirated games, are coming from steam.
So you point is hereby nullified.

If i have a choise to buy a game directly from a developer, instead of Steam, i will do so (thats 30% profit more for the developer, and yes this is the fee Steam takes from the price a game costs) thus more money for them to develop more and better games.
Only benefit has, is that its a portal to quickly see what new titles are, all comfy at one site, instead of several sites you have to visit.
Still i dislike Steam, and i will not buy games from them if i dont have too, and rather buy from the developer directly like i have with more games nowerdays.

Granted i while ago i did bought alot of games from steam, but as of late, more and more can be sold directly from developers, and i will continue to do so.
Third party publishers are so old-skool when you have means to distribute it yourself.
Same for MP3's i rather buy those from the artists directly themself as from some money grabbing Publisher..

Call me an old wheezer, i rather disagree, i think i am more modern as most, since i feel third party distribution is something of the past.
If steam would just be a portal with links to developers (big and small) so i could go directly to the developers, maybe i will be using steam again, and for that i woudnt need even thirdparty software on my PC, that require Ram, and HD space even if i hardly notice the ram usage or HD space it takes.
 

Captain Breton

Captain Breton
RedCorvus said:
Plus dont forget its fairly easy to add Elite Dangerous to your steam library.

I do this mostly due to having so many friends that use steam, its better then using my cell phone :D

If anyone is wanting to know how to add Elite Dangerous to their steam library
How to add non-steam games to your steam account
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This is true and a fair point. Have Steamified ED-Launcher, and use it to typed with friends while playing. (yes, some of us still prefer to type). Also great way to share pictures taken ingame (Steam-screenies usually F12) .

As for ED ending up on Steam? It might be a good idea for the developers once sales slow down to a trickle.
Like many have said before, having Elite Dangerous on the FrontPage of Steam, just one day alone is nigh guaranteed to generate valuable sales (even if Steam/Valve wants a cut)
 

sutex

sutex
Steam, is cool , sales would improve Any issues the community, would be on it in seconds Guides would flourish, and then when it's all too much ED for the day ,message your friends & CS
 

Flappers

Flappers
Geers said:
Steam might be DRM but at least it isn't obtrusive. You don't need a constant internet connection or anything like that. Personally I've never had a single issue with Steam, but of course that doesn't mean you haven't. Steam isn't perfect, but it has good prices, stat tracking, a friend system, organizes all your games and patches them automatically.

Just remember blind hatred/dismissal is just as bad as blind worship.

Most people don't actually care about DRM. It's only when said DRM gets in the way that it's an issue.
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For me, Steam has terrible prices. I live in Poland, where the earnings are a fifth of that in western counties, yet we are still expected to pay the same prices for games, because Steam refuses to localize currencies. Origin and Uplay can localize, so why can't Steam? Because it means less money for them. A game that costs 60 euros on Steam, costs 20 euros locally here. So, for people who live in the UK/ France/ Germany etc, sure the prices may seem fair, but not to us over here.

Steam has the same features as all other DRM's out there. Compare it to UPlay and Origin, they have friends lists/ sales etc. What's the difference between them? Ah yes... it's Valve, and EA and Ubisoft are the devil's of the industry. Not Valve. /sigh

Not pointing my finger at you, just the Internet in general. I don't have blind hatred, I have good reason to dislike Steam. But there is absolutely no reason for people to worship Valve like the gods of the PC platform. If you take a look into reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace - this is supposed to be a satirical subreddit, but people literally believe that Valve are the saviours of the PC Platform... when in reality, it's those people that are making the platform worse.

I would disagree on your point on most people not caring about DRM. There was a huge problem, even here on these forums where people were shouting and pointing fingers at FDEV for dropping solo play. Saying it's because they wanted to enforce DRM. Yet their DRM is hardly intrusive, nor does it cause problems. Still didn't stop people from raging about it on the forums.

Again, my hatred isn't blind. My eyes are open, I just wish others could see what I see, and understand that Valve are the most greedy company out there. More so than Ubisoft of EA.
 

Geers

Geers
Flappers said:
For me, Steam has terrible prices. I live in Poland, where the earnings are a fifth of that in western counties, yet we are still expected to pay the same prices for games, because Steam refuses to localize currencies. Origin and Uplay can localize, so why can't Steam? Because it means less money for them. A game that costs 60 euros on Steam, costs 20 euros locally here. So, for people who live in the UK/ France/ Germany etc, sure the prices may seem fair, but not to us over here.

Steam has the same features as all other DRM's out there. Compare it to UPlay and Origin, they have friends lists/ sales etc. What's the difference between them? Ah yes... it's Valve, and EA and Ubisoft are the devil's of the industry. Not Valve. /sigh

Not pointing my finger at you, just the Internet in general. I don't have blind hatred, I have good reason to dislike Steam. But there is absolutely no reason for people to worship Valve like the gods of the PC platform. If you take a look into reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace - this is supposed to be a satirical subreddit, but people literally believe that Valve are the saviours of the PC Platform... when in reality, it's those people that are making the platform worse.

I would disagree on your point on most people not caring about DRM. There was a huge problem, even here on these forums where people were shouting and pointing fingers at FDEV for dropping solo play. Saying it's because they wanted to enforce DRM. Yet their DRM is hardly intrusive, nor does it cause problems. Still didn't stop people from raging about it on the forums.

Again, my hatred isn't blind. My eyes are open, I just wish others could see what I see, and understand that Valve are the most greedy company out there. More so than Ubisoft of EA.
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Yeah I can understand that. But comparing Valve to EA and Ubisoft is like comparing tax evasion to murder. Valve might have a very strange way of doing things, such as not localizing currencies or not giving refunds (they got sued for this by the consumer watchdog in Aus) but Ubisoft tried to convince us that 30 fps was as good or better than 60 fps and don't even get me started on EA.

As far as DRM goes, I've devised a little test to check if a game's DRM is intrusive or not:

Would you be better of pirating it?

If yes, (Simcity) then you need to rethink what you're doing.

If no, (Elite) then people need to either stop being paranoid that the government is stealing their data or remember they're playing an online game.
 

agent1138

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How many of you wouldn't mind seeing this game on steam?

A lot of us already have steam, also increasing the sales platform a Large number of players are hesitant to buy something from a stand alone sight.

Steam Workshop which allows us players to submit ship skins and what not for the devs to potentially place in the game

Friends List syncs so you can find friends in game easily

Achievements for OCD

Easy Screen Shot Sharing

Streaming





Before you vote No, just think for a second and don't be scared of this mad futuristic technologies that steam is, also voting no is like confirming you have ED
 
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Lodorenos

Lodorenos
Ship skins can be implemented without the help of Steam, and anyone can add the overlay by adding it as a non-steam game. If I recall correctly, Gaben takes a 30% cut from all profit earnings so I can understand why, for now, the game will not be available there.
 
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