Will PS4 get the Cobra Mk IV?

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madmattnz

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Stinja said:
If you think if it as a small-sized Python it may help give context, as "junk" or usefulness is subjective. eg: the FDL is a terrible ship if you're into trading, it's poor for exploration, poor for mining, poor for being a Fuel Rat (i tried): so it's junk for a whole bunch of activities, as there's far better options.
Then you get something like the DBX, it's an excellent exploration ship, but the anaconda is generally considered better (but many dislike it's slow SC agility), while if it's better/worse than say the AspX it becomes very debatable. So you start hitting pros/cons and subjectiveness of if ship A is better than ship B. I've heard some call the DBX junk, which i'd disagree with strongly.

The Cobra MK4 is a small ship, so can land on medium pads; with a small footprint, so good for landing on rough terrain where some medium ships couldnt land easily; it has 10 slots - the same as the Python - which gives a huge amount of loadout variety; it has 5 hardpoints, more than any other small ship; it's one of only 3 small ships with two seats for multicrew.
So if you like small ships it is excellent as a planetary explorer, good for core mining, gives a very cheap ship for some activities which might need a rebuy.

I'd argue it is not junk, and is better than many ships for some activities.
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All the more reason it would be great to have it on the PS4 (especially if you were a pre-orderer as then we would have parity with PC and Xbox players)
 

Snowymonk

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Yeah,
Xbox commanders demanded parity with PC and they were given the Cobra MkIV if they pre ordered Horizons.
PS4 Commanders also (politely) asked whether they would get access to the Cobra MkIV if they pre ordered and were given a gold sidewinder paintjob.

We just want parity.

Given the extended time during which Frontier have not given PS4 commanders access to the Cobra MkIV, the only way I can see forward on this for PS4 commander base is for Frontier to allow the Cobra MkIV available to all Commanders, on all platforms.
 
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Cobra MK4 skin now available to purchase, maybe it means it's coming!!!11!! o_O

Source: https://youtu.be/PH0EdSzjdM0
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Don't get me wrong.

I still hope you get it.

But with that said...

There's been many bugs with the new store since it was introduced, including "exclusive" skins that "shouldn't be available".

With that said. You now have quite the interesting bargaining chip. Definitely more solid than anything a PS4 owner has had before. I look forward to seeing how FD handles your case.

And they do need to handle it now as you've paid them for a product.
 

Snowymonk

Snowymonk
Confirmed. - able to see the Cobra MkIV skin in store 😁

Unfortunately, still unable to buy Cobra MkIV ship itself.
I visited Abernathy city where it can apparently be bought and no luck. The shipyard goes straight from Diamondback scout to Type-6 transport. 😔
 

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Snowymonk said:
Confirmed. - able to see the Cobra MkIV skin in store 😁

Unfortunately, still unable to buy Cobra MkIV ship itself.
I visited Abernathy city where it can apparently be bought and no luck. The shipyard goes straight from Diamondback scout to Type-6 transport. 😔
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Buy the skin anyway. More people who do the more Frontier can't ignore this and will have to give an answer.
 

Snowymonk

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Un1k0rn said:
Buy the skin anyway. More people who do the more Frontier can't ignore this and will have to give an answer.
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I did.
It further highlights that the absence of a Cobra mkIV is a design decision rather than a technical limitation.
The language presented on the screen doesn't help Frontier either.
It says 'You do not own this ship at this time'.
(pretty close to false advertising if it is impossible to ever own the Cobra MkIV - remember, the last official response from Frontier was 'still being discussed')
 

Stinja

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Stinja said:
Cobra MK4 skin now available to purchase, maybe it means it's coming!!!11!! o_O

Source: https://youtu.be/PH0EdSzjdM0
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Denied!

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Stinja

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The last official "answer" was when they "accidently" released the Black Friday skins for the Cobra MK4 and a number of us bought it:
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH0EdSzjdM0
This somewhat forced a response, but essentially still dodged giving an answer with "nothing to announce".


I'll add the previous responses, as there's been no summary for a while.

12/12/2016, 8:48 AM: Gary Richards said: We are still working out the finer details of the PS4 Release and there'll be further announcements closer to the time.

24/11/2017, 3:23 PM: Lloyd Morgan-Moore said: Unfortunately I don't have any news to give you on this at the minute, but we haven't forgotten about the Mk IV for PS4 players!

27/06/2018, 8:42 AM: Lloyd Morgan-Moore said: I'm going to be chasing this up today, I'm aware how eager everyone is to get into the seat of the Mk IV [yesnod]

29/09/2018: Customer support said (link dead/wiped): We recommend PS4 users keep an eye on our social media channels for updates regarding the Cobra Mk IV

03/12/2019 5:45pm: Paige Harvey said: We have nothing to announce regarding the Cobra MK IV’s availability on PlayStation 4 at the current time.

8/4/2020 9:32pm: Tim Smith said: Currently, there are no plans for that at the moment.

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Then links to "being unfair" (Fdev's words) to not offer the Cobra MK4 to Xbox cmdrs, but this doesn't seem to apply to us :rolleyes:

The thread where FDev seemed to announce the Cobra MK4 offer to Xbox commanders:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/259478-Cobra-Mk-IV

Particularly this post by Zac Antonaci, where he says it's to give parity between Xbox and PC commanders on the offer.
This specifically is much more about the Xbox Commanders having the same opportunity as PC players had.
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Then this follow-up post:
However, to be clear, if we didn't make this available for Xbox players it would have then become unfair to them (as they couldn't have purchased at that time).

Ultimately this should be a positive thing, for the Xbox Community answering the questions they have been asking about the Cobra MK IV but instead seems to be slipping into a debate about the finer points of shorter term promotional offers.
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So yeah still waiting over three years later...
 
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iSparTanK

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Unless there is a "secret" platform exclusivity in favour of Microsoft we're missing here, i don't understand the runaround in offering this ship in a limited fashion to PS4. With the upcoming 2020 paid DLC i hope that Frontier does the right thing for this community.
 

Snowymonk

Snowymonk
iSparTanK said:
Unless there is a "secret" platform exclusivity in favour of Microsoft we're missing here, i don't understand the runaround in offering this ship in a limited fashion to PS4. With the upcoming 2020 paid DLC i hope that Frontier does the right thing for this community.
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Think of it more that Frontier dont have a grasp on the implications of their decisions, and in particular, the lack of engagement with the community about the reasoning behind some of the decisions causing salt.

1) Making the Cobra MkIV part of the PC pre-order experience - all seemed fine... Sales of Horizons increased. Horizons launched - Following launch, Cobra MkIV no longer available to commanders buying Horizons on PC

2) Not making the Cobra MkIV part of the XBOX pre-order experience - Xbox commanders kick off, claiming unfair treatment - Frontier relent, providing Cobra MkIV to XBox commanders who pre-order.

(3 Not providing any LEP 'freebies' for an extended time - LEPers kick off, claiming unfair treatment - Frontier appease them by also providing the Cobra MkIV ('...it was additional content and therefore should be provided LEPers...' - Don't worry about the original Horizons pre-order criteria, it'll stop them moaning))

4) Not making the Cobra MkIV part of the PS4 pre-order experience - PS4 commanders kick off, claiming unfair treatment - Frontier provide a Gold Sidewinder Paintjob - Argument rumbles on...

PC, Xbox, PS4 are all on separate platforms. They never overlap. What ships one platform typically run has no bearing on the ships on another platform.

It is not that Frontier are not aware of the ongoing Cobra MkIV demand. As evidenced by their swift movement when the Cobra MkIV paint job was accidently released on PS4 during the Black Friday sales. They are conciously NOT responding.
I want the Cobra MkIV available to all commanders.

I would guess that Cobra MkIV (like Gankers, like Combat Logging, like talking about Fleet Carriers etc) are on a watchlist of things to not acknowledge.

Ed used to have fun on the Xmas 24hour streams, asking Frontier awkward questions about the game - now gone
Paige accidently let slip more about the Fleet Carrier announcement timings on a recent stream - now gone...
 

Stinja

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Snowymonk said:
It is not that Frontier are not aware of the ongoing Cobra MkIV demand. As evidenced by their swift movement when the Cobra MkIV paint job was accidently released on PS4 during the Black Friday sales. They are conciously NOT responding.
I want the Cobra MkIV available to all commanders.

I would guess that Cobra MkIV (like Gankers, like Combat Logging, like talking about Fleet Carriers etc) are on a watchlist of things to not acknowledge.
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Well they've somewhat changed since the Black Friday balls-up, and have moved to acknowledging both the PS4 and Cobra MK4 exist, but not on fairness.

Latest is the new-new CM Tim with a bigger shift to a "no", as "no plans" is much more negative than "nothing to announce".
8/4/2020 9:32pm: Tim Smith said: Currently, there are no plans for that at the moment.

(i'll add this to my mega-history post above ;) )
 
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