Will there be more than 2 New Ships?
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Distant Stars required, what, ~53 light year jump range? Star One and a couple of other locations require ~48ish?
As far as I am aware, that is the only location to date that could only be reached by a select few ships. Now, of course, more ships can make the trip than could back then, but I am as of yet unaware of any new location that requires a non-boosted jump range greater than that to reach.
The point here, is that you are absolutely correct, Bortas, but some people cannot get past jump range. They just can't. The Krait is nearly perfect for Exploration, but that jump range will keep people like Commander Mengy from considering it to be a Exploration ship. In other words, if it doesn't compete with the Anaconda, then it doesn't count.
All 3 Passenger Ships just got a nice boost in this regard, but they don't count either. Partly because of their jump range, but also because they aren't *new* ships.
I would actually argue that upper-level Exploration has gotten a minimum of 4 new ships in Beyond, perhaps a fifth in the Phantom.
The Beluga and Orca might make for a pair of really sexy Miners, too. Just going to toss that in here as well.
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No it doesn't make sense at all to me, we already got three Chieftain variants and new SLFs, enough to cover the Squadrons bit of 3.3 imho.
The bigest part of 3.3 is focused on mining and exploration though and yet they cough up another combat ship.
Two new ships is fine, a miner and an explorer, another combat ship is not fine imho.
Would you take a Hauler into a combat zone?
Sure, it can fight. But its not the best ship for the job.
I have a Krait myself, 57Ly jump range. Great ship. But, with so many Condys and Asps in play for Distant Worlds II, its clear that needs to be another true explorer ship - with at least great jump range - simply to give explorers more choice.
Its that simple, really. Adding such a ship won't ruin anyone's gameplay.
Hi Edward. One of the reasons this thread is so big because we're curious at the absence of an exploration ship for an exploration update - an update which is delivering yet another combat ship.
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Are you serious? There are literally millions of them along the galactic fringes requiring extreme jump ranges. Millions.
I often am stumped by my Asp's 71 ly range and wish I could get it up to Anaconda range. Just because jump range isn't important to you does not mean it's that way for everyone. The DWE rosters proves that with data, to many explorers jump range most certainly matters. A lot.
Oevasy SG-Y d0(some people consider it the ultimate milestone for an explorer) needs a minimum jump range of 82.68LY to reach.
Your numerous statements that you haven't played nearly as much in the last year does not reconcile with this - which is it, Mengy?
It also seems that you are considering random locations, and actual desired destinations, to be the same thing. I am not sure that I would agree with you on that, to be honest. While they might indeed be the same to those who just want to reach System X for no other reason than because it's there, I would say that that is not the same as people wanting to visit Star One - because it's Star One. Not *just because.*
We are often at odds on this topic, but I hope that you know that I do indeed want you get the Exploration ship that puts a smile on your face. We'll see on Thursday, but right now, all hopes are riding on the Phantom's jump range. No fighter bay for planetary cavorting, though.
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Then, shalt thou count to two. No more. No less. Two shalt be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be two. Four shalt thou not count, nor either count thou three, excepting that thou then proceed to two. Five is right out. Once the number two, being the second number, be reached, then, open the stream and have some fun.
Yep, I've played a LOT less Elite this year than any other year since 1.0. How does that apply to this conversation? :S
Star One is just a popular example because people know what it is and can relate to it. If I said you need a top tier jump range to get to PRO AIS YA-D D13-0 would anyone have any idea what I'm talking about without going into the galaxy map?
Explorers don't just fly to the popular places, that's tourism. Many of us look for the unknown gems in the galaxy, the places no one has been to yet. Very often that requires jump range.
Im far away exploring with a 28LY Cutter, I like it that I sometimes need to puzzle how to get further
Would you take a Hauler into a combat zone?
Sure, it can fight. But its not the best ship for the job.
I have a Krait myself, 57Ly jump range. Great ship. But, with so many Condys and Asps in play for Distant Worlds II, its clear that needs to be another true explorer ship - with at least great jump range - simply to give explorers more choice.
Its that simple, really. Adding such a ship won't ruin anyone's gameplay.
Hi Edward. One of the reasons this thread is so big because we're curious at the absence of an exploration ship for an exploration update - an update which is delivering yet another combat ship.
What a krait can jump 57 ly? I take it that is heavily engineered? I only just bought one for combat and have been having fun with it.
Mengy, we have been doing this same conversation for many years now, you just have to face the fact that some people either will not, or can not, understand. That's where I'm at, if people don't want to learn or can't be bothered to understand then there is no point in responding to them.
I know and you know, that in order to explore effectively and reach those hidden jems, those little nebulae, those fantastic views far away from the galactic core, you need serious jump range and every light second counts. The risks we take on the fringe, wondering if we will be able to return if we make one more jump further into the black - the unknown...
Range Matters! - Speed does not!
That is all
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Yep, engineering galore on Prometheus. Increased FSD range to the max, lightweight life support, no weapons. stripped down modules as much as I could, plus Guardian FSD Booster. I was carrying a fighter bay, I've dumped that and gained 2Ly.
I can feel this actually. This update would have been a great opportunity to add specialized mining and exploration ships. I assume they simply already had the Mamba and Krait Phantom in the works though. We did at least know about the Phantom for a while, it was just a matter of when. Meanwhile a specialized mining ship or new exploration ship are just community dreams.
In B4 more jump range bloat and the ultimate milestone is trivialized, devalued, dumbed down, etc.
I have a T6, DBX and Orca kitted out solely for exploration - the changes in the beta would mean the Orca gets a massive fuel scoop and (if the snapshot had been a few days later) Guardian FSD Booster along with an AFMU. I haven't played around with the Beluga yet Not a 'new' ship but nicely repurposed.
Not a 'new' ship but nicely repurposed.